Marilyns

psbrooks said:

I've run off the list of Marilyns, and ticked off the ones
I've already done, but I'm wondering just how practical
they are. I did all the Shropshire ones last week, but are
they all feasible or plagued with access problems? Anyone
here done them all? Bardsey Island looks like a gem. Is
there a ferry to what is presumably a private island, with
no rights of way?

try a google - you need the Bardsey Island Trust.

There is a ferry but it was infrequent when I went there
about 5 years ago. I hitched a ride on a small boat taking
fishermen out - had to sit watching them fish until high
tide when I could be landed.

A pretty island - super bird life and lots of seals, but no
phones, no electricity, no shops, no pub.

Phil

psbrooks said:

I've run off the list of Marilyns, and ticked off the ones
I've already done, but I'm wondering just how practical
they are. I did all the Shropshire ones last week, but are
they all feasible or plagued with access problems? Anyone
here done them all?

They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the technical
difficulties and the distances involved *they* won't allow
you on some of them.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

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psbrooks said:

I've run off the list of Marilyns, and ticked off the ones
I've already done, but I'm wondering just how practical
they are. I did all the Shropshire ones last week, but are
they all feasible or plagued with access problems? Anyone
here done them all?

They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the technical
difficulties and the distances involved *they* won't allow
you on some of them.

There is a Yahoo group of people who have completed many of
them - and have entered the Marilyn Hall of Fame. Try RHB as
a search word!

--
Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

psbrooks said:

I've run off the list of Marilyns, and ticked off the ones
I've already done, but I'm wondering just how practical
they are. I did all the Shropshire ones last week, but are
they all feasible or plagued with access problems? Anyone
here done them all? Bardsey Island looks like a gem. Is
there a ferry to what is presumably a private island, with
no rights of way?

Depends what you mean by practical. I guess that one of the
original points about the Marylins list was the very
impossibility of climbing them all, though that has since
been very nearly achieved. It's excellent fun: it mostly
gets you away from the crowds, you find some delightfully
unfrequented places, and it provides a mental shift away
from the monotonously narrow-minded attitudes associated
with Munro bagging.

Bernie

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Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't
quit understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(

If they fit the rule for Marilyns, they taste like Marilyns
and they quack like Marilyns - then they are Marilyns. And
they fit the rule - 150 metres of ascent all round. Doesn't
matter if they are stacks, a whole island or the highest
point on a wide plateau in the English Midlands.

--
Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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Martin Richardson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Craven
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Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't
quit understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(

If they fit the rule for Marilyns, they taste like
Marilyns and they quack like Marilyns - then they are
Marilyns. And they fit the rule - 150 metres of ascent
all round. Doesn't matter if they are stacks, a whole
island or the highest point on a wide plateau in the
English Midlands.

How many are completers then? ;-) I can't seem to find out
using 'Google'

No-one has done them all - because of the seastacks - there
are a handful of people who are very near. Try RHB in Yahoo
groups. Or Marilyn Hall of Fame in Google.

--
Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

In message <[email hidden]>, Craven
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Blimey! After reading the Marilyn Hall of Fame. I suppose
600 minimum, I can become a member! Problem is remembering
which Marilyns, I've done over the years ;-)

600 is not as easy as you think. It means a lot of Scottish
Highlands outwith the Munros and Corbetts - and/or a
dedication to everything in Wales - and I mean everything -
with barbed wire fences, wind farms and bulls in fields .
--
Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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No-one has done them all - because of the seastacks

So how many seastacks are completely and utterly
inaccessible? Even to the most insane completist.

I thought it was six - but I may well be wrong.

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Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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Blimey! After reading the Marilyn Hall of Fame. I suppose
600 minimum, I can become a member! Problem is
remembering which Marilyns, I've done over the years ;-)

Are you sure?

I thought when I first heard of the HoF that I would have a
respectable total but found at that time less than 300 to
my name. Most Marilyns are in Scotland but even the Munros
only account for some 205 and Marylyns are pretty thin on
the ground in England and Wales. Munros plus England and
Wales complete is not enough so I don't stand any chance of
getting there even if my current knee trouble does go into
remission. :-(

That's what I was trying to tell him. I too am struggling -
and I don't have the knee problems. Just the inability to
pay for the cost of petrol to get to the damn things.

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Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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Roger said:

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Blimey! After reading the Marilyn Hall of Fame. I
suppose 600 minimum, I can become a member! Problem is
remembering which Marilyns, I've done over the years ;-)

Are you sure?

I thought when I first heard of the HoF that I would have
a respectable total but found at that time less than 300
to my name. Most Marilyns are in Scotland but even the
Munros only account for some 205 and Marylyns are pretty
thin on the ground in England and Wales. Munros plus
England and Wales complete is not enough so I don't stand
any chance of getting there even if my current knee
trouble does go into remission. :-(

I'll get back to you on my total in a week! :-0 205 to
start with then. Any tops classed as Marylins?

Tops - no. If there were 500 ft of reascent then they would
not be merely Tops!

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Corbetts to check how many.

All the Corbetts count.

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And the rest etc, etc.

But many Donalds do not

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;-)

And they wont let you include any Irish Marilyns in the
600 total.

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Martin Richardson
239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
- 0% to go
240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the technical
difficulties and the distances involved *they* won't allow
you on some of them.

Phil, that's all the more reason for doing them.

KRO

Martin Richardson said:

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psbrooks said:

I've run off the list of Marilyns, and ticked off the
ones I've already done, but I'm wondering just how
practical they are. I did all the Shropshire ones last
week, but are they all feasible or plagued with access
problems? Anyone here done them all?

They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the technical
difficulties and the distances involved *they* won't allow
you on some of them.

There is a Yahoo group of people who have completed many of
them - and have entered the Marilyn Hall of Fame. Try RHB
as a search word!

staclee.freeserve.co.ukstaclee.freeserve.co.ukOpen ↗
groups.yahoo.comrhbOpen ↗
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

KRO said:

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They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the technical
difficulties and the distances involved *they* won't
allow you on some of them.

Phil, that's all the more reason for doing them.

I was thinking of the St. Kilda stacs in particular.
Difficult climbs with difficult landings but do-able outwith
the nesting season if you are prepared to wait for the
conditions to come right except SNH have a nanny attitude
and won't even let you wander about the slopes of Conachair
alone lest you wander off a cliff.
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
95/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

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They are an incompleatable list. Aside from the
technical difficulties and the distances involved
*they* won't allow you on some of them.

Phil, that's all the more reason for doing them.

I was thinking of the St. Kilda stacs in particular.
Difficult climbs with difficult landings but do-able
outwith the nesting season if you are prepared to wait for
the conditions to come right except SNH have a nanny
attitude and won't even let you wander about the slopes of
Conachair alone lest you wander off a cliff.

Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't quit
understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(

Bit grim some of 'em then:-0
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Martin Richardson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Craven
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Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't
quit understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(

If they fit the rule for Marilyns, they taste like
Marilyns and they quack like Marilyns - then they are
Marilyns. And they fit the rule - 150 metres of ascent all
round. Doesn't matter if they are stacks, a whole island
or the highest point on a wide plateau in the English
Midlands.

How many are completers then? ;-) I can't seem to find out
using 'Google'
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Martin Richardson said:

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Martin Richardson said:

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> Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't
> quit understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(
>
If they fit the rule for Marilyns, they taste like
Marilyns and they quack like Marilyns - then they are
Marilyns. And they fit the rule - 150 metres of ascent
all round. Doesn't matter if they are stacks, a whole
island or the highest point on a wide plateau in the
English Midlands.

Strictly speaking it is descent.

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How many are completers then? ;-) I can't seem to find out
using 'Google'

No-one has done them all - because of the seastacks - there
are a handful of people who are very near. Try RHB in Yahoo
groups. Or Marilyn Hall of Fame in Google.

Yeah, as far as I can tell three near compleaters, the
Bowkers and Blanco [1], though deep in my mind lurks a
thought that it isn't Blanco but somebody else...

[1] TAC speak for Alan White who is responsible for RHB.
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"
2/284 5/219 c.100/300 (>900m with drop>100m )

Martin Richardson said:

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Martin Richardson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Craven
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> Having never contemplated 'doing' the Marilyns. I can't
> quit understand why stacs are classed as Marilyns:-(
>
If they fit the rule for Marilyns, they taste like
Marilyns and they quack like Marilyns - then they are
Marilyns. And they fit the rule - 150 metres of ascent
all round. Doesn't matter if they are stacks, a whole
island or the highest point on a wide plateau in the
English Midlands.

How many are completers then? ;-) I can't seem to find
out using 'Google'

No-one has done them all - because of the seastacks -
there are a handful of people who are very near. Try RHB
in Yahoo groups. Or Marilyn Hall of Fame in Google.

Blimey! After reading the Marilyn Hall of Fame. I suppose
600 minimum, I can become a member! Problem is remembering
which Marilyns, I've done over the years ;-)
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No-one has done them all - because of the seastacks

So how many seastacks are completely and utterly
inaccessible? Even to the most insane completist.

Ian.

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Blimey! After reading the Marilyn Hall of Fame. I suppose
600 minimum, I can become a member! Problem is remembering
which Marilyns, I've done over the years ;-)

Are you sure?

I thought when I first heard of the HoF that I would have a
respectable total but found at that time less than 300 to my
name. Most Marilyns are in Scotland but even the Munros only
account for some 205 and Marylyns are pretty thin on the
ground in England and Wales. Munros plus England and Wales
complete is not enough so I don't stand any chance of
getting there even if my current knee trouble does go into
remission. :-(

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Roger Chapman so far this year 27 summits New - 16 (Marilyns
4, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 11) Repeats - 11( Marilyns 2,
Sweats 6, Wainwrights 11) Knackered knee - 3 times