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"The Laws" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have

diabetes,

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is wear shoes.

Because you could have Neuropathy and not know it.

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I know if you have neuropathy and poor circulation, any
injury could be very hard to heal. I do have neuropathy in
both legs, diagnosed years and years ago before I developed
diabetes, and I have always spent most of my time in bare
feet. I still heal fast when I get a scratch or blister on
legs or feet, and I find it almost impossible to get shoes
that are comfortable more than an hour or two. I haven't
heard anything that convinces me I need to wear shoes in
the house. Is there

some

Quoted message said:

other reason that you know of, or is it just part of the
standard universal directions that are given out with the
standard weight lose

diet

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they give to diabetics ? Kay

The most common cause of amputation in diabetics is from an
infection that never healed properly. There is also
something called charcofoot that diabetics can get where
the bones of the foot break. Shoes would afford extra
protection for that. If your shoes are uncomfortable, then
something is wrong. Most likely they don't fit right.
Making a tracing of your foot and cut it out. Hold it up to
the bottom of your shoes. If it extends beyond your shoes,
then they do not fit right.

I too have Neuropathy and some other medical problems. I
can't wear most shoes. I am able to wear Birkenstocks, Ryka,
New Balance, and also Romika with no problems at all. I now
have a wide foot, and I didn't before. You need to have your
feet measured at least every year. Age and also diabetes can
change the shape and size of your foot.

You may have fast healing wounds now, but that could change.
I can have wounds that heal very quickly or very slowly. It
all depends. I battled leg ulcers for years because the
underlying cause had not been diagnosed. Once I got on
proper treatment for that, they healed. Had an open wound on
my arm for nearly a year. A recent shot of Kenalog cleared
it right up.

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The Laws said:

I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have diabetes, is wear shoes. I know if you have
neuropathy and poor circulation, any injury could be very
hard to heal. I do have neuropathy in both legs, diagnosed
years and years ago before I developed diabetes, and I have
always spent most of my time in bare feet. I still heal
fast when I get a scratch or blister on legs or feet, and I
find it almost impossible to get shoes that are comfortable
more than an hour or two. I haven't heard anything that
convinces me I need to wear shoes in the house. Is there
some other reason that you know of, or is it just part of
the standard universal directions that are given out with
the standard weight lose diet they give to diabetics ? Kay

Hi Kay

It's a little like insurance; you hope to hell you'll
never need it but you're bloody grateful you've got it
when you do.

My A1c and all other indicators are fine at the moment. It
still took a significantly long time for a recent ant-sting
in the arch of my foot to heal.

Hopefully Guy or Mack will drop in and give you their
opinion.

It's still your choice, and I still forget occasionally. For
'round the house I wear a pair of good leather slippers -
light and easy to slip on and off. I keep a pair of sneakers
with velcro fasteners by the back door for the yard. Later
in the winter I'll wear ugg-boots.

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
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The Laws said:

I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have diabetes, is wear shoes. I know if you have
neuropathy and poor circulation, any injury could be very
hard to heal. I do have neuropathy in both legs, diagnosed
years and years ago before I developed diabetes, and I have
always spent most of my time in bare feet. I still heal
fast when I get a scratch or blister on legs or feet, and I
find it almost impossible to get shoes that are comfortable
more than an hour or two. I haven't heard anything that
convinces me I need to wear shoes in the house. Is there
some other reason that you know of, or is it just part of
the standard universal directions that are given out with
the standard weight lose diet they give to diabetics ? Kay

The danger is if you have the type of neuropathy which
might lead to a puncture or other injury which would be
undetected. If your sensations are strong enough to
detect the dangers, going barefoot in the house might be
quite acceptable; I do it, and my doctors agree that it
is OK in my case.

As for getting comfortable shoes, this has been a problem
for me for decades. If you cannot find such, and this means
that you would be willing to wear them right from the
store, no "breaking in", I suggest you see someone who
regularly treats people with this problem. Cheap shoes are
unlikely to fit.
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 03:55:56 GMT, "The Laws" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have diabetes, is wear shoes. I know if you have
neuropathy and poor circulation, any injury could be very
hard to heal. I do have neuropathy in both legs, diagnosed
years and years ago before I developed diabetes, and I have
always spent most of my time in bare feet. I still heal
fast when I get a scratch or blister on legs or feet, and I
find it almost impossible to get shoes that are comfortable
more than an hour or two. I haven't heard anything that
convinces me I need to wear shoes in the house. Is there
some other reason that you know of, or is it just part of
the standard universal directions that are given out with
the standard weight lose diet they give to diabetics ? Kay

It's good that you heal quickly. Keep a very close eye on
that. Even a simple infection or minor cut can turn very
nasty in diabetics and cost you a foot. You may escape the
risk for decades, and then get one cut that leads to a
severe infection.

Your feet. Your loss of feet. Your choice.

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I wear alternative shoes, such as Doc Martens, & Creepers,
to name just 2, which really are sturdy and really help.
But nothing is so comfortable as my clown shoes, (Most of
you know this is my profession), custom fitted, & lovingly
hand stitched. They are so comfortable inside and are
structured so they hug your foot, and are sturdy and
reliable. I can't work an 8 hour day in regular shoes, but
I can walk 10 miles in these and the next day, my feet are
okay and I can do it again ! The shoe guy doesn't make
regular styles, but I wish he did ! Somehow 17 inch long
purple and pink Mary Janes wouldn't go with everything ...
yuh think !? I but all regular shoes at the end of the day
when my feet are swollen ! Rainbow

You could go for years and not have any problems going
barefoot. Then one day everything changes. You'll get a
small cut on the bottom of your foot that you don't notice.
Soon it gets infected and the next thing you know you've got
gangrene and you're hospitalized and facing debreedment
surgery and possible amputation.

It happened, and is still happening, to me. I've had both
great toes amputated. Also the right side of my left foot,
the number 2 toe and metatarsel. I've had 6 surgeries since
February and may be looking at a 7th if the last surgical
incision doesn't heal soon. During my last surgery my blood
pressure dropped to 60/30. Other highlights have been
several very unpleasant and embarrassing medical tests,
using a bedpan for 2 days because I couldn't move my left
leg to get to the restroom due to a spinal nerve block,
depression, thoughts of suicide, being in hospital isolation
because of an antibiotic resistant bacteria, giving myself
Vancomycin at home through an IV picc line, and financial
ruin due to only working about 2 months this year. The list
just goes on and on. Sound like fun?

TAKE CARE OF YOUR FEET. Diabetes is the number 1 cause of
non traumatic amputation in the United States. Think hard
about that ... NUMBER 1 CAUSE.

Wear your shoes. Protect your feet. Examine and clean them
carefully every single day. Control your blood glucose
levels because bacteria thrive in a sugar rich environment.

Be careful.

"Herman Rubin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

As for getting comfortable shoes, this has been a problem
for me for decades. If you cannot find such, and this
means that you would be willing to wear them right from
the store, no "breaking in", I suggest you see someone who
regularly treats people with this problem. Cheap shoes are
unlikely to fit.
--

I've read that one reason people find their shoes
uncomfortable is that they are actually wearing the
WRONG SIZE!

Forget what # size you are used to, try an assortment.
Different brands & styles may mean different sizes for you.
Also get your foot properly measured for size to find a good
starting point.

I have shoes in three different sizes that fit me right now,
plus my feet seem to have grown just in the past five years.
When I do the "seasonal wardrobe shift" I have to try out
all the old shoes to see if they still work for me -- even
if they were fine just a few months ago! bj

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"The Laws" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have

diabetes,

Quoted message said:

is wear shoes.

Because you could have Neuropathy and not know it.

Apparently she DOES know it though. As she says " I do have
neuropathy in both legs, diagnosed years and years ago
before I developed diabetes,"

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Quoted message said:

I know if you have neuropathy and poor circulation, any
injury could be very hard to heal. I do have neuropathy
in both legs, diagnosed years and years ago before I
developed diabetes, and I have always spent most of my
time in bare feet. I still heal fast when I get

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

scratch or blister on legs or feet, and I find it almost
impossible to

get

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shoes that are comfortable more than an hour or two. I
haven't heard anything that convinces me I need to wear
shoes in the house. Is there

some

Quoted message said:

other reason that you know of, or is it just part of the
standard universal directions that are given out with
the standard weight lose

diet

Quoted message said:

they give to diabetics ? Kay

The most common cause of amputation in diabetics is from
an infection that never healed properly. There is also
something called charcofoot that diabetics can get where
the bones of the foot break. Shoes would afford extra
protection for that. If your shoes are uncomfortable, then

something

Quoted message said:

is wrong. Most likely they don't fit right. Making a
tracing of your

foot

Quoted message said:

and cut it out. Hold it up to the bottom of your shoes. If
it extends beyond your shoes, then they do not fit right.

Or better yet, go to a GOOD shoe emporium and have sme
shoes MADE to fit properly. Like the saying goes, if you
can only have two things, they should be good shoes and a
good bed, because if you're not in one of them, you're in
the other":-)

Beav

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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 03:55:56 GMT, "The Laws" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I don't understand why the first thing you are told when
you have diabetes, is wear shoes. ..... I find it almost
impossible to get shoes that are comfortable more than an
hour or two. I haven't heard anything that convinces me I
need to wear shoes in the house.

How about a compromise:

1. Slippers, or something else that prevents injury to
the soles. OR
2. Be religious about keeping things off the floor of
your house.

(In my house, a contractor who will never get my business
again has made it rather easy for bare feet to identify the
locations of carpet tacks.)

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I have never found my shoes funny. I do Earth Shoes the most
comfortably built shoes on earth, as it were.

rainbow said:

I wear alternative shoes, such as Doc Martens, & Creepers,
to name just 2, which really are sturdy and really help.
But nothing is so comfortable as my clown shoes, (Most of
you know this is my profession), custom fitted, & lovingly
hand stitched. They are so comfortable inside and are
structured so they hug your foot, and are sturdy and
reliable. I can't work an 8 hour day in regular shoes, but
I can walk 10 miles in these and the next day, my feet are
okay and I can do it again ! The shoe guy doesn't make
regular styles, but I wish he did ! Somehow 17 inch long
purple and pink Mary Janes wouldn't go with everything ...
yuh think !? I but all regular shoes at the end of the day
when my feet are swollen ! Rainbow

I'm an artist with a lot of artist friends. Your clown shoes
would probably be a big hit here. ;>😉 c

"rainbow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9384-40C657FA-236@storefull-
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Quoted message said:

I wear alternative shoes, such as Doc Martens, & Creepers,
to name just 2, which really are sturdy and really help.
But nothing is so comfortable as my clown shoes, (Most of
you know this is my profession), custom fitted, & lovingly
hand stitched. They are so comfortable inside and are
structured so they hug your foot, and are sturdy and
reliable. I can't work an 8 hour day in regular shoes, but
I can walk 10 miles in these and the next day, my feet are
okay and I can do it again ! The shoe guy doesn't make
regular styles, but I wish he did ! Somehow 17 inch long
purple and pink Mary Janes wouldn't go with everything ...
yuh think !? I but all regular shoes at the end of the day
when my feet are swollen ! Rainbow

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:01:44 -0500, [email hidden] (formerly known as

daveosaurus) said:

You could go for years and not have any problems going
barefoot. Then one day everything changes. You'll get a
small cut on the bottom of your foot that you don't notice.
Soon it gets infected and the next thing you know you've
got gangrene and you're hospitalized and facing debreedment
surgery and possible amputation.

It happened, and is still happening, to me. I've had both
great toes amputated. Also the right side of my left foot,
the number 2 toe and metatarsel. I've had 6 surgeries since
February and may be looking at a 7th if the last surgical
incision doesn't heal soon. During my last surgery my blood
pressure dropped to 60/30. Other highlights have been
several very unpleasant and embarrassing medical tests,
using a bedpan for 2 days because I couldn't move my left
leg to get to the restroom due to a spinal nerve block,
depression, thoughts of suicide, being in hospital
isolation because of an antibiotic resistant bacteria,
giving myself Vancomycin at home through an IV picc line,
and financial ruin due to only working about 2 months this
year. The list just goes on and on. Sound like fun?

TAKE CARE OF YOUR FEET. Diabetes is the number 1 cause of
non traumatic amputation in the United States. Think hard
about that ... NUMBER 1 CAUSE.

Wear your shoes. Protect your feet. Examine and clean them
carefully every single day. Control your blood glucose
levels because bacteria thrive in a sugar rich environment.

Be careful.

Thanks Dave.

A salutary lesson.

Off to put my slippers on.

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
carbs to email.
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:01:44 -0500, [email hidden]
(formerly known as daveosaurus) wrote:

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Wear your shoes. Protect your feet.

Quoted message said:

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Be careful.

Thanks Dave.

A salutary lesson.

Off to put my slippers on.

I second what Dave has said - there's a good reason why I
used to use the address "nine-toes@<deleted>.<also deleted>"
a couple years back ..... hasn't degenerated to 8- or 7-
yet, but it came very close this year, and I doubt that I'll
still have all remaining nine by the time I eventually
shuffle off ...

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Do they barter paintings?

<joke> c

"rainbow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:23292-40C7230D-3@storefull-
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Yeah, but, the price is prohibitive .. at almost $400 !!!
( some go higher than that !) Rainbow

What great photos. Brought a smile to my face.

My paintings:

www.plazaearth.com/philo

I have a page with new work on it too but I have to find
the URL. c

"rainbow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:21973-40C77550-102@storefull-
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Yeah, I wish they bartered, ... see mine @
www.honeybunchentertainment.com and go to 2004 Great Clown
Adventure pictures and look at our feet. Rainbow

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:38:40 -0700, [email hidden] (rainbow)

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Yeah, I wish they bartered, ... see mine @
www.honeybunchentertainment.com and go to 2004 Great Clown
Adventure pictures and look at our feet. Rainbow

Not hard to understand why you call yourself Rainbow in that
costume :-)

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
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Found it.

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What great photos. Brought a smile to my face.

My paintings:

www.plazaearth.com/philo

I have a page with new work on it too but I have to find
the URL. c

"rainbow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:21973-40C77550-102@storefull-
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Yeah, I wish they bartered, ... see mine @
www.honeybunchentertainment.com and go to 2004 Great
Clown Adventure pictures and look at our feet. Rainbow

I am a shoe fanatic, but my feet also swell 🙁 I would love your clown
shoes! I buy most of my shoes at REI. Very good fit and comfortable 🙂
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I'm an artist with a lot of artist friends. Your clown
shoes would probably be a big hit here. ;>😉 c

"rainbow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9384-40C657FA-236@storefull-
3116.bay.webtv.net...

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I wear alternative shoes, such as Doc Martens, &
Creepers, to name just 2, which really are sturdy and
really help. But nothing is so comfortable as my clown
shoes, (Most of you know this is my profession), custom
fitted, & lovingly hand stitched. They are so comfortable
inside and are structured so they hug your foot, and are
sturdy and reliable. I can't work an 8 hour day in
regular shoes, but I can walk 10 miles in these and the
next day, my feet are okay and I can do it again ! The
shoe guy doesn't make regular styles, but I wish he did !
Somehow 17 inch long purple and pink Mary Janes wouldn't
go with everything ... yuh think !? I but all regular
shoes at the end of the day when my feet are swollen !
Rainbow