i just wanted to add a little note to all those who are responding to both Bob and Bruce, our unfine and boring miscreants..
Please check where you are responding with Follow=up messages.. They are being posted in other groups, inclluding rec.woodworking and rec.photo.digital just by the mere act of sending it by one command..
Depending on your News Readers settings, this can add traffic to these guys benefit and messages to other groups that don't really need it..
I have been adding all of them to my Kill File and trying to make sure that I don't cross-post to groups that don't need it..