A Letter from Lance

You typed this all out???

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just got this letter from Lance Armstrong, which is a plug
for League

of

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American Bicyclists:

Dear Fellow Cyclis,

When I ride the Tour de France, I benefit from police
escorts and

roads

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closed to automobile traffic. But when I train hundreds
of miles a

week

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at home, I face the same difficulties riding on the road
as you do.

Narrow roads and nonexistent shoulders, aggressive and
sometimes

hostile

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motorists, lack of bike access to bridges and transit
-- these

problems

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are enough to frustrate any cyclist.

But like you, I am not willing to give up and throw away
my bike. Rather, I believe that we need to evaluate the
problems and work together to come up with good, practical
solutions that improve conditiions for cyclists and
encourage many more people to join us on

bikes.

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Fortunately, there is an organization dedicated to doing
this: the League of American Bicyclists. Day in and day
out, the League is working through advocacy and education
to build a truly

bicycle-friendly

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America

Over 40,000 individual cyclists and 600 organizations have
already joined the League to help support its work for
cyclists. I urge you

to

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do the same.

I am proud to be a member of the League of American
Bicyclists. I

look

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at it as an investment in our future. After all, the more
that people are biking, the more influence cyclists will
have on improving conditions, and the more likely that
there will be other American Tour de France champions.

Please read the enclosed letter from the League's
Executive Director about the great member benefits and
join the League today!

Thank you for supporting cycling.

Sincerly, Lance Armstrong

P.S. Join with me as a member of the League of American
Bicyclists and help build a bicycle-friendly America.
Thanks!

[letter attached]

Address is: League of American Bicyclists 1612 K Street,
NW, Suite 800 Washinton, DC 20006-2850

Now this outfit, in Washington DC, looks plainly like a
lobbying

group,

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but I haven't heard their name anywhere. I certainly agree
with the content of the letter, and would consider putting
my cash into an organization that will help do something
about the crappy roads and such, but how much can LoAB do
to influence the local civil engineers who are as
responsible for those who control the purse strings?

Your thoughts are welcome.

"Jiyang Chen" wrote...

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You typed this all out???

I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good ol'
American compassion.

jf

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"Jiyang Chen" wrote...

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You typed this all out???

I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good ol'
American

compassion.

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jf

It's doubtful if he scanned it because OCR is not very good.
I don't even believe the latest version of OmniPage could
produce excellent results unless the text was on typed
printer paper and used basic default, like Times or Ariel.
Hand written text would not scan well to OCR, if at all. If
he scanned it as a graphic then I would like to know how he
converted it to text. I don't know of a way of doing it. If
it was an email, then of course text but otherwise if snail
mail letter then I think he typed it.

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just got this letter from Lance Armstrong, which is a plug
for League of American Bicyclists:

Dear Fellow Cyclis,

When I ride the Tour de France, I benefit from police
escorts and roads closed to automobile traffic. But when I
train hundreds of miles a week at home, I face the same
difficulties riding on the road as you do.

Narrow roads and nonexistent shoulders, aggressive and
sometimes hostile motorists, lack of bike access to
bridges and transit -- these problems are enough to
frustrate any cyclist.

But like you, I am not willing to give up and throw away
my bike. Rather, I believe that we need to evaluate the
problems and work together to come up with good, practical
solutions that improve conditiions for cyclists and
encourage many more people to join us on

bikes.

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Fortunately, there is an organization dedicated to doing
this: the League of American Bicyclists. Day in and day
out, the League is working through advocacy and education
to build a truly bicycle-friendly America

Over 40,000 individual cyclists and 600 organizations have
already joined the League to help support its work for
cyclists. I urge you to do the same.

I am proud to be a member of the League of American
Bicyclists. I look at it as an investment in our future.
After all, the more that people are biking, the more
influence cyclists will have on improving conditions, and
the more likely that there will be other American Tour de
France champions.

Please read the enclosed letter from the League's
Executive Director about the great member benefits and
join the League today!

Thank you for supporting cycling.

Sincerly, Lance Armstrong

P.S. Join with me as a member of the League of American
Bicyclists and help build a bicycle-friendly America.
Thanks!

[letter attached]

Address is: League of American Bicyclists 1612 K Street,
NW, Suite 800 Washinton, DC 20006-2850

Now this outfit, in Washington DC, looks plainly like a
lobbying group, but I haven't heard their name anywhere. I
certainly agree with the content of the letter, and would
consider putting my cash into an organization that will
help do something about the crappy roads and such, but how
much can LoAB do to influence the local civil engineers
who are as responsible for those who control the purse
strings?

Your thoughts are welcome.

I was watching frontline or something like that a while back
and I see millions of Chinese have given up their bikes in
favor of cars. Part of the oil shortage is due to China
demand for fuel. I don't think the Chinese are going back to
bikes and I don't think Americans are going to give up their
SUV's in favor of bikes either but it's a good gesture. I
saw another piece on ABC one time about how the Netherlands
have integrated bikes into society quite well. ED knows
about that.

On 05 Jun 2004 22:02:22 EDT, Richard Adams <[email hidden]>

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Just got this letter from Lance Armstrong, which is a plug
for League of American Bicyclists:

Dear Fellow Cyclis,

When I ride the Tour de France, I benefit from police
escorts and roads closed to automobile traffic. But when I
train hundreds of miles a week at home, I face the same
difficulties riding on the road as you do.

Narrow roads and nonexistent shoulders, aggressive and
sometimes hostile motorists, lack of bike access to
bridges and transit -- these problems are enough to
frustrate any cyclist.

But like you, I am not willing to give up and throw away my
bike. Rather, I believe that we need to evaluate the
problems and work together to come up with good, practical
solutions that improve conditiions for cyclists and
encourage many more people to join us on bikes.

Fortunately, there is an organization dedicated to doing
this: the League of American Bicyclists. Day in and day
out, the League is working through advocacy and education
to build a truly bicycle-friendly America

Over 40,000 individual cyclists and 600 organizations have
already joined the League to help support its work for
cyclists. I urge you to do the same.

I am proud to be a member of the League of American
Bicyclists. I look at it as an investment in our future.
After all, the more that people are biking, the more
influence cyclists will have on improving conditions, and
the more likely that there will be other American Tour de
France champions.

This organization has been around since before there were
automobiles. It used to be called "The League of American
Wheelmen" before we all became politically correct. They are
a good group.

Somehow i don't see Armstrong riding all alone like the rest
of us. Iam still glad he supports such a thing.

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League of American Bicyclists 1612 K Street, NW, Suite 800
Washinton, DC 20006-2850

Now this outfit, in Washington DC, looks plainly like a
lobbying group, but I haven't heard their name anywhere.

Where have you been?

League of American Wheelmen changed their name to the League
of American Bicyclists some time ago. I'll let somebody else
fill in the details of the history of the LAW, but they've
been around (I believe) for over one hundred years.

Andy Coggan

Evan Evans said:

Somehow i don't see Armstrong riding all alone like the
rest of us. Iam still glad he supports such a thing.

Good chance he's got someone on a scooter with him, but
still, the only way he's going to get miles in is the same
way the rest of us do, on our roads.

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Somehow i don't see Armstrong riding all alone like the
rest of us. Iam still glad he supports such a thing.

Rides alone, with a shotgun loaded ford pick-em up truck
riding tailgunner.

Sierraman said:

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Just got this letter from Lance Armstrong, which is a plug
for League of American Bicyclists:

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League of American Bicyclists 1612 K Street, NW, Suite 800
Washinton, DC 20006-2850

Now this outfit, in Washington DC, looks plainly like a
lobbying group, but I haven't heard their name anywhere. I
certainly agree with the content of the letter, and would
consider putting my cash into an organization that will
help do something about the crappy roads and such, but how
much can LoAB do to influence the local civil engineers
who are as responsible for those who control the purse
strings?

Your thoughts are welcome.

I was watching frontline or something like that a while
back and I see millions of Chinese have given up their
bikes in favor of cars. Part of the oil shortage is due to
China demand for fuel. I don't think the Chinese are going
back to bikes and I don't think Americans are going to
give up their SUV's in favor of bikes either but it's a
good gesture. I saw another piece on ABC one time about
how the Netherlands have integrated bikes into society
quite well. ED knows about that.

I did read about the banning of bicycles in the 'downtown'
part of Shanghai, then more recently about the banning of
bicycles altogether in Shanghai -- in the name of progress.
Seems the city leaders feel motorists shouldn't have to put
up with a million bicycles when they want to head downtown
to Starbucks.

Yes the chinese are taking to cars like ducks to water and
this should help exhaust world oil reserves much faster than
americans could have*. It'll probably bring back the train
and bicycle as primary modes in my lifetime. Yay!

* The last estimates I read on expected life of petroleum
reserves at current rates of consumption had Saudi Arabia
at 40 years, all others exhausted before then.

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Originally posted by Richard Adams

BEvan Evans said:

Somehow i don't see Armstrong riding all alone like the
rest of us. Iam still glad he supports such a thing.

Good chance he's got someone on a scooter with him, but
still, the only way he's going to get miles in is the same
way the rest of us do, on our roads. [/B]

I'd imagine he has a van or car riding with him much of the time. And um, he trains in France and from what I know [had] lived there with his family near full time. It's not like he's training for the TDF in Rocky Texas. Still agreed, it's nice to see him supporting this cause.

Jim Flom said:

"Jiyang Chen" wrote...

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You typed this all out???

I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good ol'
American compassion.

Should we send in the Marines to invade him, or just fly
over and bomb him? One way or another, we've got to free him
from the tyranny of sore fingers.

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"Jiyang Chen" wrote...

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You typed this all out???

I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good ol'
American

compassion.

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jf

It's doubtful if he scanned it because OCR is not
very good.

What are you talking about? Maybe *your* OCR is not "any
good" but most OCR applications from the past several years
can scan accurately while requiring only a few corrections
per page and it is not uncommon at all to get 100%
accuracy, even from multiple columns and images placed in
the source page.

I don't even

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believe the latest version of OmniPage could produce
excellent results unless the text was on typed printer
paper and used basic default, like Times or Ariel.

Obviously you have not tried it.

Hand written text would not scan well to OCR, if at all.

That is the biggest challenge but is still possible with
some packages being developed for the latest "tablet PC".

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If he scanned it as a graphic then I would like to know how
he converted it

to

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text. I don't know of a way of doing it.

It is called "OCR". An optical character recognition package
always starts with an image that is analysed so it does not
matter if you first scan as an image and then run OCR on it
or simply let the automated scripts scan and convert it.

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If it was an email, then of course text but otherwise if
snail mail letter then I think he typed it.

Thanks for nothing but misleading statements.

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"Jiyang Chen" wrote...
> You typed this all out???

I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good ol'
American

compassion.

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jf

It's doubtful if he scanned it because OCR is not
very good.

What are you talking about? Maybe *your* OCR is not "any
good" but most

OCR

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applications from the past several years can scan
accurately while

requiring

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only a few corrections per page and it is not uncommon at
all to get 100% accuracy, even from multiple columns and
images placed in the source page.

You should know that OCR is mediocre at best. It does (not)
always produce the best results. If your text is big enough
and clear enough without useing wild fonts on your scan page
then yes, results can be good, but in my experience not
always perfect. Corrections are usually in order.

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I don't even

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believe the latest version of OmniPage could produce
excellent results unless the text was on typed printer
paper and used basic default, like Times or Ariel.

Obviously you have not tried it.

I used it probably before you even thought about it way back
in it's infancy.

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Hand written text would not scan well to OCR, if at all.

That is the biggest challenge but is still possible with
some packages

being

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developed for the latest "tablet PC".

My point is apps like OmniPage are only good with reasonable
text that can be converted by OCR like typed text, any wild
fonts, cursive handwriting, even print handwriting and the
like have poor results. I have used Omnipage over the years
and I have tested their claims many times as they boasted
better OCR with each new version. While I don't mind
correcting a few characters, I wouldn't say it's perfect
even on the clear text scan. The results can be good but not
always perfect. The point again is it's limits are based on
size, clarity and the font type of the scanned text. OCR has
a ways to go.

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If he scanned it as a graphic then I would like to know
how he converted it

to

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text. I don't know of a way of doing it.

It is called "OCR". An optical character recognition
package always starts with an image that is analysed so it
does not matter if you first scan as

an

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image and then run OCR on it or simply let the automated
scripts scan and convert it.

Da... yeah, but that's not what I am talking about. I was
talking about a way to convert the text from a graphic
that is on your PC or MAC without using a scanner.
Software that can do the conversion without Hardware. I
don't believe I know of any. I haven't searched for a
long time to see what developers have come up with but
I'd be interested in any progress in this area.

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If it was an email, then of course text but otherwise if
snail mail letter then I think he typed it.

Thanks for nothing but misleading statements.

Thanks for not knowing what you are talking about.

I agree with the posters who have said that LAB is a good
group. I have worked side-by-side with their lobbyists on
transportation legislation and, while they will never be
as influential as the powerful "roads are for cars and
trucks" highway lobby, their voice helps a lot, and they
have been particularly good at developing constructive
relationships with Influential members of Congress such as
Jim Oberstar (D-MN), ranking Democrat on the House
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. They also
organized the "Bikes Belong" coalition to bring bike-
industry members into the fold.

See bikesbelong.orgpage.cfmOpen ↗ and
bikeleague.orgindex.cfmOpen ↗ for more details.

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BTW, I tried some software a few years back that converted
the text from a graphic without a scanner. The results were
laughable.

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> "Jiyang Chen" wrote...
> > You typed this all out???
>
> I hope he scanned it. Otherwise he's due some good
> ol' American
compassion.
>
> jf

It's doubtful if he scanned it because OCR is not very
good.

What are you talking about? Maybe *your* OCR is not "any
good" but most

OCR

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applications from the past several years can scan
accurately while

requiring

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only a few corrections per page and it is not uncommon
at all to get

100%

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accuracy, even from multiple columns and images placed
in the source

page.

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You should know that OCR is mediocre at best.

Repeating yourself still does not make it so.

It does (not) always produce

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the best results. If your text is big enough and clear
enough without

useing

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wild fonts on your scan page then yes, results can be
good, but in my experience not always perfect. Corrections
are usually in order.

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I don't even

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believe the latest version of OmniPage could produce
excellent results unless the text was on typed printer
paper and used basic default,

like

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Times or Ariel.

Obviously you have not tried it.

I used it probably before you even thought about it way
back in it's infancy.

So you admit your experience is so far in the past as to
be irrelevant and you stubbornly post 3 misleading
articles anyway?

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Hand written text would not scan well to OCR, if at all.

That is the biggest challenge but is still possible with
some packages

being

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developed for the latest "tablet PC".

My point is apps like OmniPage are only good with
reasonable text that can be converted by OCR like typed
text, any wild fonts, cursive handwriting, even print
handwriting and the like have poor results.

So what? Any font at all can be changed to an optimized
font. The only thing that would be slightly difficult would
be to run OCR on a funky styled and laid out print job and
editing it without leaving that layout style. Big deal. Most
corespondence (letters) fall in the category of 10+ points
arial (sans serif) or times (serif) fonts are are very
easily scanned with no corrections required. That has been
the state of OCR for several years now.

I have used Omnipage

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over the years and I have tested their claims many times
as they boasted better OCR with each new version. While I
don't mind correcting a few characters, I wouldn't say
it's perfect even on the clear text scan. The results can
be good but not always perfect. The point again is it's
limits are based on size, clarity and the font type of the
scanned text. OCR has

a

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ways to go.

Please indicate WHICH version. It started to get very
accurate around version 9 or so and is now up to version 14.
I use 10.5 and I have no reason to consider an upgrade at
this point.

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If he scanned it as a graphic then I would like to know
how he converted

it

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to

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text. I don't know of a way of doing it.

It is called "OCR". An optical character recognition
package always

starts

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with an image that is analysed so it does not matter if
you first scan

as

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an

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image and then run OCR on it or simply let the automated
scripts scan

and

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convert it.

Da... yeah, but that's not what I am talking about. I was
talking about a way to convert the text from a graphic
that is on your PC or MAC without using a scanner.

Da...yeah, it is the same thing.

Software that can do the conversion without Hardware. I

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don't believe I know of any.

No surprises about your lack of knowledge. Believe it or
not, most high end graphics suites have an OCR engine. In
addition, every single OCR application I have used has also
had the capability of running OCR on an existing graphics
file. IOW, no need to have it directly from the scanner. It
may be that some users assume the scanner is required
because the largest button on the software controls will
fire up the default scanner.

I haven't searched for a long time to see what

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developers have come up with but I'd be interested in any
progress in this area.

That is very obvious.

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If it was an email, then of course text but otherwise
if snail mail letter then I think he typed it.

Thanks for nothing but misleading statements.

Thanks for not knowing what you are talking about.

You should go to your water closet and say that in your
mirror. I tried to help you, but sticking to your original
statement (no matter how wrong) is much more important to
you than conceding or learning. I gave you enough
information with sufficient references to validate
everything I said. You can download trial packages from any
of the big OCR software vendors including Omnipage. I guess
your hope is simply that others won't check the facts and
you won't look stupid? Don't count on it.

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BTW, I tried some software a few years back that converted
the text from a graphic without a scanner.

You said a few minutes ago that:

"Software that can do the conversion without Hardware. I
don't believe I know of any. I haven't searched for a long
time to see what developers have come up with but I'd be
interested in any progress in this area."

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The results were laughable.

No doubt. Check the nut behind the wheel.

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Obviously you have not tried it.

Only a dumbass would make this statement above.

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So you admit your experience is so far in the past as to
be irrelevant and you stubbornly post 3 misleading
articles anyway?

Another dumbass presumption.

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My point is apps like OmniPage are only good with
reasonable text that

can

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be converted by OCR like typed text, any wild fonts,
cursive

handwriting,

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even print handwriting and the like have poor results.

So what? Any font at all can be changed to an optimized
font. The only

thing

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that would be slightly difficult would be to run OCR on a
funky styled and laid out print job and editing it without
leaving that layout style. Big deal. Most corespondence
(letters) fall in the category of 10+ points

arial

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(sans serif) or times (serif) fonts are are very easily
scanned with no corrections required. That has been the
state of OCR for several years

now.

Talking about wild fonts on a graphics page.

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I have used Omnipage

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over the years and I have tested their claims many
times as they boasted better OCR with each new version.
While I don't mind correcting a few characters, I
wouldn't say it's perfect even on the clear text scan.
The results can be good but not always perfect. The
point again is it's

limits

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are based on size, clarity and the font type of the
scanned text. OCR ha

s

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a

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ways to go.

Please indicate WHICH version. It started to get very
accurate around version 9 or so and is now up to version
14. I use 10.5 and I have no

reason

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to consider an upgrade at this point.

Well, I tried 10 but since you haven't tried anything newer
then 10, how would you know about the improvements of 14?
Again, presumptions.

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Da... yeah, but that's not what I am talking about. I
was talking about

a

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way to convert the text from a graphic that is on your
PC or MAC without using a scanner.

Da...yeah, it is the same thing.

No it's not and the type of scanner is an obvious factor.

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Software that can do the conversion without Hardware. I

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don't believe I know of any.

No surprises about your lack of knowledge. Believe it or
not, most high

end

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graphics suites have an OCR engine. In addition, every
single OCR application I have used has also had the
capability of running OCR on an existing graphics file.
IOW, no need to have it directly from the scanner. It
may be that some users assume the scanner is required
because the

largest

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button on the software controls will fire up the default
scanner.

Well, you need a scanner to get it into the PC, if it's not
on the drive already, say from a magazine. I haven't used
Omnipage for onboard graphics file, so I don't know at which
point they started doing that, but at the time OmniPage was
the only one with any real practical use.

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I haven't searched for a long time to see what

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developers have come up with but I'd be interested in
any progress in

this

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area.

That is very obvious.

Yet another presumption. You are a rude MF aren't you. You
make a lot of presumptions.

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>If it was an email, then of course text but otherwise
>if snail mail letter then I think he typed it.

Thanks for nothing but misleading statements.

Thanks for not knowing what you are talking about.

You should go to your water closet and say that in your
mirror. I tried to help you, but sticking to your original
statement (no matter how wrong) is much more important to
you than conceding or learning. I gave you enough
information with sufficient references to validate
everything I said. You can download trial packages from
any of the big OCR software vendors including Omnipage. I
guess your hope is simply that others won't check

the

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facts and you won't look stupid? Don't count on it.

Go suck on your mothers [censored] too. Typical RBR [censored], not
worth the time responding too.