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  1. ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 4.43, June, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often
    puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew
    B. Chung, MD/PhD
    (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
    the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
    (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful
    answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by
    detractors that are useful only for comparison
    purposes). All answers given herein can be
    independently verified either via Google or by using
    the third-party resources at tinyurl.com26rfr.
    This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that
    permits authentication. The veracity of both the
    posting email address and domain name can be
    independently confirmed via Google
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
    questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
    who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary
    is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is
    board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
    (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds
    truthfully to medical questions on
    s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues to
    freely help people to this day
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
    out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
    his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients
    as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he
    were, there would probably be no controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
    particular:

    o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
    and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
    Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
    cheek in a Christian manner
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
    steadfastly without hatred
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it
    a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being
    maliciously libeled and defamed (tinyurl.comibvn).

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in
    Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian
    behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it.
    Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
    witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
    graciously provided this over several years
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
    consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
    training, and experience
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
    many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
    with that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
    on Usenet?
    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?
    18. Who is Steve?
    19. What is Steve's role?
    20. Who is Bob?
    21. What is Bob's role?
    22. Who is Stephen?
    23. What is Stephen's role?
    24. Is this spam?
    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?

    28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    -------------------------------------
    Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
    certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
    medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
    contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
    consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ---------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
    media for communication between health care providers,
    scientists and other individuals with interest in the
    cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick
    and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
    and offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
    who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
    students or recipients with interest in the field of
    cardiovascular problems."

    (tinyurl.com3fv8k)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    They are if these discussions represent "communication
    between health care providers, scientists and other
    individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
    should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
    (tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an interest
    in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus.

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
    with that?
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    -
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his
    signature, isn't it?
    ------------------------------------------------------
    ----------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    -------------------------------------------
    No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
    unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
    on Usenet?
    ------------------------------------------------------
    ----------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    --
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
    according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can
    be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    -------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    ----------------------------------------------
    See: tinyurl.com2p7ud

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition
    that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    18. Who is Steve?
    -----------------
    An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
    He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    19. What is Steve's role?
    -------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    20. Who is Bob?
    ---------------
    A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he is driven
    to libeling and defaming the author
    (tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
    economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this
    FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can be seen
    writing to himself about it
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
    appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
    destructive USENET posting behavior
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    21. What is Bob's role?
    -----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    22. Who is Stephen?
    -------------------
    A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) *retired*
    rectal surgeon (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who
    believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis
    Presley" (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems
    to be so taken with
    Du. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
    admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
    Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history
    of reporting those who would willfully trespass against
    others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his
    own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
    warned him about his stalking activities
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has gone
    into hiding (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A
    few words to the wise can be found at
    tinyurl.com23qqk on this topic.

    23. What is Stephen's role?
    ---------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    24. Is this spam?
    -----------------
    No, this is a FAQ.

    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    ----------------------------------
    There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
    anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be
    anonymous.

    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------
    No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
    unique responses to the posts of others.

    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    -----------
    No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different
    Christian individuals.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
    advisement via [email hidden].

  2. A. B. Chung FAQ said:


    ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 4.43, June, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
    often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
    the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
    (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
    truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
    out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
    purposes). All answers given herein can be
    independently verified either via Google or by using
    the third-party resources at
    tinyurl.com26rfr. This FAQ has been posted in
    the past in a manner that permits authentication. The
    veracity of both the posting email address and domain
    name can be independently confirmed via Google
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
    questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
    who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
    summary is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
    is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
    (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
    responds truthfully to medical questions on
    s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues
    to freely help people to this day
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
    out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
    his private cardiology practice, where he sees
    patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If that
    was all he were, there would probably be no
    controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
    particular:

    o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
    and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
    Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
    cheek in a Christian manner
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
    steadfastly without hatred
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
    it a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
    being maliciously libeled and defamed
    (tinyurl.comibvn).

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
    in Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
    Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
    it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
    witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
    has graciously provided this over several years
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
    consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
    training, and experience
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
    many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
    Usenet?
    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?
    18. Who is Steve?
    19. What is Steve's role?
    20. Who is Bob?
    21. What is Bob's role?
    22. Who is Stephen?
    23. What is Stephen's role?
    24. Is this spam?
    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?

    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    -------------------------------------
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
    certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
    medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
    contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
    consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ---------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
    media for communication between health care providers,
    scientists and other individuals with interest in the
    cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
    quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
    knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
    who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
    students or recipients with interest in the field of
    cardiovascular problems."

    (tinyurl.com3fv8k)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    They are if these discussions represent "communication
    between health care providers, scientists and other
    individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
    should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
    (tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an
    interest in the cardiovascular field when He
    "resuscitated" Lazarus.

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    -----------------------------------------------------
    --------
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
    isn't it?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    -------------------------------------------
    No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
    unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
    Usenet?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    ------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
    according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
    can be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    -------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    ----------------------------------------------
    See: tinyurl.com2p7ud

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
    condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and
    strokes.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    18. Who is Steve?
    -----------------
    An anti-christian
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the
    untrue versions of this FAQ
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    19. What is Steve's role?
    -------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    20. Who is Bob?
    ---------------
    A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD
    approach (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he
    is driven to libeling and defaming the author
    (tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
    economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with
    this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can
    be seen writing to himself about it
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
    appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
    destructive USENET posting behavior
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    21. What is Bob's role?
    -----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    22. Who is Stephen?
    -------------------
    A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    *retired* rectal surgeon
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
    "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems to be
    so taken with
    Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
    admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
    Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
    history of reporting those who would willfully
    trespass against others
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his own
    admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
    warned him about his stalking activities
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has
    gone into hiding
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words
    to the wise can be found at tinyurl.com23qqk
    on this topic.

    23. What is Stephen's role?
    ---------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    24. Is this spam?
    -----------------
    No, this is a FAQ.

    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    ----------------------------------
    There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
    anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
    be anonymous.

    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -----------
    No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
    unique responses to the posts of others.

    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -------------
    No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
    different Christian individuals.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
    under advisement via [email hidden].

    All praises belong to Christ who is my personal Lord and
    Savior :-)

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  3. SPAM

    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
    A. B. Chung FAQ said:

    ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 4.43, June, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
    often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr.
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
    the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
    (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
    truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put
    out by detractors that are useful only for comparison
    purposes). All answers given herein can be
    independently verified either via Google or by using
    the third-party resources at
    tinyurl.com26rfr. This FAQ has been posted in
    the past in a manner that permits authentication. The
    veracity of both the posting email address and domain
    name can be independently confirmed via Google
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
    questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
    who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
    summary is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
    is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
    (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he
    responds truthfully to medical questions on
    s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues
    to freely help people to this day
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
    out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
    his private cardiology practice, where he sees
    patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If that
    was all he were, there would probably be no
    controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
    particular:

    o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
    and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
    Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
    cheek in a Christian manner
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
    steadfastly without hatred
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
    it a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
    being maliciously libeled and defamed
    (tinyurl.comibvn).

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith
    in Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
    Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
    it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
    witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
    has graciously provided this over several years
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
    consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
    training, and experience
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
    many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
    Usenet?
    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?
    18. Who is Steve?
    19. What is Steve's role?
    20. Who is Bob?
    21. What is Bob's role?
    22. Who is Stephen?
    23. What is Stephen's role?
    24. Is this spam?
    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?

    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    -------------------------------------
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
    certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
    medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
    contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
    consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ---------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
    media for communication between health care providers,
    scientists and other individuals with interest in the
    cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
    quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
    knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
    who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
    students or recipients with interest in the field of
    cardiovascular problems."

    (tinyurl.com3fv8k)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    They are if these discussions represent "communication
    between health care providers, scientists and other
    individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
    should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
    (tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an
    interest in the cardiovascular field when He
    "resuscitated" Lazarus.

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    -----------------------------------------------------
    --------
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
    isn't it?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    -------------------------------------------
    No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
    unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
    medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on
    Usenet?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
    who challenge Dr. Chung?
    ------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
    according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
    can be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    -------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    ----------------------------------------------
    See: tinyurl.com2p7ud

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
    condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and
    strokes.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    18. Who is Steve?
    -----------------
    An anti-christian
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the
    untrue versions of this FAQ
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    19. What is Steve's role?
    -------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    20. Who is Bob?
    ---------------
    A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD
    approach (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he
    is driven to libeling and defaming the author
    (tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
    economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with
    this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can
    be seen writing to himself about it
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
    appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
    destructive USENET posting behavior
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    21. What is Bob's role?
    -----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    22. Who is Stephen?
    -------------------
    A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    *retired* rectal surgeon
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes that
    "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems to be
    so taken with
    Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr. Chung
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his own
    admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
    Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long
    history of reporting those who would willfully
    trespass against others
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his own
    admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
    warned him about his stalking activities
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has
    gone into hiding
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words
    to the wise can be found at tinyurl.com23qqk
    on this topic.

    23. What is Stephen's role?
    ---------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    24. Is this spam?
    -----------------
    No, this is a FAQ.

    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    ----------------------------------
    There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
    anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to
    be anonymous.

    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -----------
    No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
    unique responses to the posts of others.

    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
    some allege?
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    -------------
    No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
    different Christian individuals.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
    under advisement via [email hidden].

    All praises belong to Christ who is my personal Lord and
    Savior :-)

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    ** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    --
    "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as
    history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls
    observing from the present" Glen Cook

  4. Quoted message said:
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:
    A. B. Chung FAQ said:

    ---------------------------------
    | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
    | Version 4.43, June, 2004 |
    ---------------------------------

    Introduction
    ------------
    New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are
    often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons
    for the hatred that some folks have for him. This
    FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some
    truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ
    put out by detractors that are useful only for
    comparison purposes). All answers given herein can
    be independently verified either via Google or by
    using the third-party resources at
    tinyurl.com26rfr. This FAQ has been posted
    in the past in a manner that permits
    authentication. The veracity of both the posting
    email address and domain name can be independently
    confirmed via Google
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series
    of questions followed by simple truthful answers. For
    those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the
    following summary is provided.

    Summary
    -------
    Dr. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who
    is board-certified in internal medicine and
    cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this
    capacity, he responds truthfully to medical
    questions on
    s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and
    continues to freely help people to this day
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does
    this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time
    outside his private cardiology practice, where he
    sees patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If
    that was all he were, there would probably be no
    controversy.

    The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian,
    in particular:

    o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his
    Lord and Savior
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
    Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).

    o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
    cheek in a Christian manner
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he
    witnesses steadfastly without hatred
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls
    it a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite
    being maliciously libeled and defamed
    (tinyurl.comibvn).

    o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong
    faith in Christ
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's
    Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates
    it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives.
    He witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.

    People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung
    has graciously provided this over several years
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
    consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
    training, and experience
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is
    archived many times over in Google.

    List of Questions Answered
    --------------------------
    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
    6. But I'm a Christian Too!
    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this
    free medical information out of the goodness of his
    heart?
    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
    on Usenet?
    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with
    those who challenge Dr. Chung?
    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    16. Who is Mu?
    17. What is Mu's role?
    18. Who is Steve?
    19. What is Steve's role?
    20. Who is Bob?
    21. What is Bob's role?
    22. Who is Stephen?
    23. What is Stephen's role?
    24. Is this spam?
    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person
    as some allege?

    1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
    -------------------------------------
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
    certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
    medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
    contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which
    is consistent with his posts and qualifications.

    2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
    ---------------------------------
    The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
    media for communication between health care providers,
    scientists and other individuals with interest in the
    cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide
    quick and efficacious means to exchange information and
    knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.

    The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome
    participants who are health care providers, trainees,
    researchers, students or recipients with interest in the
    field of cardiovascular problems."

    (tinyurl.com3fv8k)

    3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    They are if these discussions represent "communication
    between health care providers, scientists and other
    individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field."
    It should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare
    provider (tinyurl.com2ndof), who has
    demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field
    when He "resuscitated" Lazarus.

    4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with
    that?
    -------------------------------------------------------
    ------
    Some people are fiercely anti-christian.

    5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
    isn't it?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.

    6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
    -------------------------------------------
    No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
    unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.

    7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Anti-christians are unable to do that.

    8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this
    free medical information out of the goodness of his
    heart?
    ----------------------------------------------------
    ------
    God is wonderful.

    9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
    on Usenet?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------
    God makes time for those whom He blesses.

    10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
    --------------------------------------------------
    Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.

    11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with
    those who challenge Dr. Chung?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ------
    God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts
    are according to His will.

    12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
    ----------------------------------------------
    This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they
    can be culled from His flock.

    13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
    -------------------------------
    Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"

    14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
    ----------------------------------------------
    See: tinyurl.com2p7ud

    15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a
    condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks
    and strokes.

    16. Who is Mu?
    --------------
    A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    17. What is Mu's role?
    ----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    18. Who is Steve?
    -----------------
    An anti-christian
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He authors the
    untrue versions of this FAQ
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    19. What is Steve's role?
    -------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    20. Who is Bob?
    ---------------
    A food worshipper
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who appears to
    have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) that he is
    driven to libeling and defaming the author
    (tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his
    own economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed
    with this FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    and can be seen writing to himself about it
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his
    friends appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational
    and self-destructive USENET posting behavior
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).

    21. What is Bob's role?
    -----------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    22. Who is Stephen?
    -------------------
    A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
    *retired* rectal surgeon
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who believes
    that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley"
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems to be
    so taken with
    Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he now stalks Dr.
    Chung (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by
    his own admitted actions. In his continued stalking
    of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a
    long history of reporting those who would willfully
    trespass against others
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his own
    admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
    warned him about his stalking activities
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he has
    gone into hiding
    (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few
    words to the wise can be found at
    tinyurl.com23qqk on this topic.

    23. What is Stephen's role?
    ---------------------------
    To serve God's will and purpose.

    24. Is this spam?
    -----------------
    No, this is a FAQ.

    25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
    ----------------------------------
    There are multiple contributors and they choose to
    remain anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's
    choice not to be anonymous.

    26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
    some allege?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    -------------
    No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and
    not unique responses to the posts of others.

    27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person
    as some allege?
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ---------------
    No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly
    different Christian individuals.

    Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken
    under advisement via [email hidden].

    All praises belong to Christ who is my personal Lord and
    Savior :-)

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    ** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com


    Ted Rosenberg said:

    SPAM

    You may certainly forward your comment to the authors. I
    believe they can be reached at [email hidden] as per
    the FAQ (I have elected to crosspost to where I believe you
    usually "hang out" to make sure you read this).

    Meanwhile, you remain in my prayers to God in Christ's name.

    May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
    someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    unfathomable riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  5. <[email hidden]> wrote in message com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mr. Chung, by looking at the last source in the reference
    list, this thread originated in the cardiology group.
    Why have you added two diabetic groups and then cross
    posted your responce? You have in past claimed not to
    originate cross posting but only to responding.
    Howerver irrelevant and poor a rationalization that
    may be, in this case headers were modified to make a
    cross post happen and it comes in under your net
    id.

    There's a real Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde component to Dr. Chung.
    One minute he's dispensing simple, lucid medical advice
    and the next moment he's slathering you with religious
    pomposity and having hissy fits over someone who
    criticizes him (his latest target is one Ted Rosenberg).

    It's obvious that he posts the Chung FAQ himself and then
    responds to
    it. It's all *very* odd. I really don't think there's
    anything to be done about it. I take his medical
    advice for what it's worth and the rest with some
    annoyance and amusement. I'm glad I don't live in
    Atlanta (although we share the same alma mater...)!

    i think this is an excellent summation of what Chung
    is all about
    Dr..... heal thyself

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mr. Chung, by looking at the last source in the reference
    list, this thread originated in the cardiology group.
    Why have you added two diabetic groups and then cross
    posted your responce? You have in past claimed not to
    originate cross posting but only to responding.
    Howerver irrelevant and poor a rationalization that
    may be, in this case headers were modified to make a
    cross post happen and it comes in under your net
    id.

    There's a real Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde component to Dr. Chung.
    One minute he's dispensing simple, lucid medical advice
    and the next moment he's slathering you with religious
    pomposity

    Sorry my being Christian bothers you.

    Quoted message said:

    and having hissy fits over someone who criticizes him (his
    latest target is one Ted Rosenberg).

    Why would I have a fit over something I consider to be a
    blessing. Mr. Rosenberg can come over from ASD/MHD anytime
    to visit SMC. He has nothing to fear except the truth.

    Quoted message said:


    It's obvious that he posts the Chung FAQ himself

    Not to me.

    Quoted message said:

    and then responds to
    it. It's all *very* odd.

    It would be odd if it were true.

    Quoted message said:

    I really don't think there's anything to be done about it.

    You may certainly write the folks who have authored the FAQ.

    Quoted message said:

    I take his medical advice for what it's worth

    In truth, haven't given you any medical advice.

    Quoted message said:

    and the rest with some annoyance and amusement.

    Again, sorry my being Christian bothers you.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm glad I don't live in Atlanta (although we share the
    same alma mater...)!

    Nonetheless you remain in my prayers to God in
    Christ's name.

    There is no distance too great for prayers to span.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  7. Quoted message said:

    It's obvious that he posts the Chung FAQ himself and then
    responds to
    it. It's all *very* odd. I really don't think there's
    anything to be

    The first time I saw the FAQ and its subject heading, I
    assumed it was a joe job posted by someone in the anti-
    Chung crowd.

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