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  1. Hi All,

    I've been riding for a while and I'm looking for a new bike.
    But, by no means am I a well versed bicycle mechanical guru.
    I've got my eye on a Specialized Sequoia Comp mainly because
    of the level of components (Ultegra) for the price. But
    after reading
    chainreaction.comcheappartsbikes.htm and the
    specs for the Sequoia, I really don't know how good the
    frame and wheels are vs. other models. I'm 6' 0", 180 lbs. I
    like to climb hard and sprint every now and then. What
    characteristics of frame, wheels and tires should I be
    looking for?

    Thanks.

  2. Robert Nurse said:

    Hi All,

    I've got my eye on a Specialized Sequoia Comp mainly
    because of the level of components (Ultegra) for the
    price. But after reading
    chainreaction.comcheappartsbikes.htm and the
    specs for the Sequoia, I really don't know how good the
    frame and wheels are vs. other models. I'm 6' 0", 180 lbs.
    I like to climb hard and sprint every now and then. What
    characteristics of frame, wheels and tires should I be
    looking for?

    Specialized Sequoia Comp:

    Suspension seat post, adjustable stem, "innovative" drop
    bars, low spoke count wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks
    to me like a comfort bike masquerading as a road bike.

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-
    spoke wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well, and
    try it out.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA bike.terrymorse.combike.terrymorse.com

  3. On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 14:11:21 -0700, Terry Morse <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp: Suspension seat post, adjustable
    stem, "innovative" drop bars, low spoke count wheels,
    damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a comfort bike
    masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially, a
    road bike designed for real people riding on real roads, not
    a racing bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    Quoted message said:

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-
    spoke wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well, and
    try it out.

    I agree about the wheels, though...and fit is a must.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  4. Rick Onanian said:
    Terry Morse said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp: Suspension seat post,
    adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low spoke count
    wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a comfort
    bike masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially,
    a road bike designed for real people riding on real roads,
    not a racing bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    If you want a comfortable ride on a road bike, your most
    effective item is wider tires. Since the OP mentioned
    climbing hard and some sprinting, a less comfort-ized and
    more rigid bike would probably be more to his liking.

    If you want to mount wider tires, it's important to make
    sure before purchase that there is enough tire clearance on
    the frame and fork. Some of the fancier bikes have very
    little clearance, which is unfortunate.

    FWIW, I'm a real person who rides a lot (6084 miles YTD) on
    real roads. My bike doesn't have any of the comfort
    gimmicks, other than 25mm tires and cork bar tape.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA bike.terrymorse.combike.terrymorse.com

  5. I do remember that the more spokes the better. I had a road
    bike whose wheels had 36 spokes: Mavic was the brand I
    believe. I noticed the Sequoia doesn't have anywhere near 32
    spokes. There must be something at work here to get away
    with so few spokes. Also, what exactly is double- or triple-
    butted mean? See, I told you I'm not a guru. So please don't
    laugh 🙂. What are some measureable characteristics of
    frames and wheels that I can use to compare offerings. Terry
    mentioned ridgidity. How do you tell if one frame is more
    ridgid than another?

    Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Terry Morse said:

    Specialized Sequoia Comp: Suspension seat post,
    adjustable stem, "innovative" drop bars, low spoke count
    wheels, damped carbon fork. It looks to me like a comfort
    bike masquerading as a road bike.

    Looks to me like a comfort-ized road bike -- essentially,
    a road bike designed for real people riding on real roads,
    not a racing bike being used on roads. Sounds reasonable.

    Quoted message said:

    I suggest skipping all those gimmicky items. Get some 32-
    spoke wheels, make sure whatever you try fits you well,
    and try it out.

    I agree about the wheels, though...and fit is a must.

  6. Robert Nurse said:

    I had a road bike whose wheels had 36 spokes: Mavic was
    the brand I believe

    I've a set of Mavic Ma3s with 36 spokes and 25mm tires--I
    hit a 6" deep pothole the other day at 25mph+ couldn't
    swerve, because of traffic so I slid back in the saddle,
    lifted the front wheel over most of it, but whacked the back
    full force--certain that I'd taco it. Nope. Didn't even have
    to true it (!) Yep, 36 spokes rock! 😄 This ain't no fancy
    set either--a machine built (and touched up by me) Nashbar
    90 dollar wheelset with a cheeeep shimano hub...

    Even if you end up getting the bike--it looks quite sensible
    and comfy--spending a hundred bucks on a spare heavy-duty
    extra wheelset can be a nice insurance policy. Shoe them
    with some fatter 27-35mm tires and throw on those when you
    think your going to hit some rougher pavement.

    😄

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