snotty remark

Nasal conchii (plural of 'conch' I hope) condition air on
inspiration by filtering and humidification. As
respiration rate rises so does the 'wetness' of the
conchii. Try some high altitude (as in zero humidity and
potential damage to mouth breathers) mountaineering and
watch your water use go waaay up.

"matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c971ft$no8$1@news-
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| What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus,
| in my case, when road riding? Don't have any cold
| symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend
a
| lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger
| to the nostril
and
| blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of
| the upper
respiratory
| tract?
|
|

On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:41:18 +0200, "matabala" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus,
in my case, when road riding? Don't have any cold symptoms,
feel fine, just seem to spend a lot of time either spitting
or perfecting the one finger to the nostril and blow
technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of the upper
respiratory tract?

My olfactory is very productive, too.

When cycling, we breathe a lot. This includes not just air,
but also various dust and crud in the air. Even if you
haven't got any hint of allergy, just breathing
miscellaneous debris will cause your body to produce mucus
to trap and remove the crud.

Allergies that aren't strong enough to be noticeable under
normal breathing would come to the forefront while riding,
I'm sure; and where I am, it is certainly allergy season.
The air is so thick with pollen that anything white turns
yellow in a day. My poor pickup truck really needs to get
washed...well, it's raining hard today.
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Quoted message said:

What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus,
in my case, when road riding?

I firmly believe that this is a system designed to prevent
respiratory illness. Germs that are caught in the sticky
mucus of your nose are then carried out of the body. Your
chance of getting a respiratory infection is much lower.

Commuters are particularly fortunate in terms of the timing
of their rides and the opportunities twice a day to clear
out the system. If you are exposed to anything while at
work, you blow it out on your way home. Lying in bed, it
would seem more likely nasty somethings would settle in --
but you blow them all out on the way to work.

This winter, I injured my back, and didn't ride my bike for
five days. Shortly thereafter, I caught a cold -- the only
one I got all season.

It also demonstrates to me the importance of blowing out the
mucus as opposed to snorfling it up. I carry a kerchief for
collecting mucus, only using the seal-the-nostril method
when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then gets laundered.
The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems rather
unsanitary.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

matabala said:

What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus,
in my case, when road riding? Don't have any cold
symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend a lot of time
either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the
nostril and blow technique. Can someone clear up the
mysteries of the upper respiratory tract?

In my own experience, the effect occurs mainly during the
first 15 minutes of riding. So I think it might have to do
with acclimatizing -- going from an indoor environment to
the outdoors. In warmer weather it doesn't happen as much to
me. I've come to look forward to that early-in-the-ride nose
blow because breathing feels so good after that.

If your symptoms are more persistent than that it may be, as
has been suggested, some sort of allergic reaction. Or maybe
your lungs are bigger than mine so it takes longer to clear
all the stale, indoor "house" air out of them.

I wouldn't be surprised if forced-air heating exacerbates
the effect.

cheers, Tom

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Claire Petersky said:

I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only using the seal-the-
nostril method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then
gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy,
seems rather unsanitary.

The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't seem
any more sanitary; one can wash one's hands and face at the
next available stop with the seal-the-nostril method.

However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-out,
producing way too much volume for either of those methods to
work well. A kerchief would become quickly unusable, not to
mention difficult to carry. Seal-the-nostril gets _very_
messy with large quantities, and really very gross with a
mustache (not a problem for you, Claire).

A half a box of Kleenexes can clear out my nose for a few
minutes, at that point. Seal-the-nostril (somewhere with
some privacy) and a few wet-naps is one on-the-road method
that is [barely] sufficient.

Stupid high-capacity nose.

I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or
cold medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I think
my nose will act up.
--
Rick Onanian

Claire Petersky said:

Commuters are particularly fortunate in terms of the timing
of their rides and the opportunities twice a day to clear
out the system. If you are exposed to anything while at
work, you blow it out on your way home. Lying in bed, it
would seem more likely nasty somethings would settle in --
but you blow them all out on the way to work.

I am subject to some pretty nasty sinus issues, and on the
mornings I wake up with the start of a sinus headache I know
how it's going to end up. If I have a morning bike ride
scheduled, it'll get better as I blow a HUGE amount of
phlegm onto the road. If I don't have time for a ride, the
headache will get progressively worse during the day.

Quoted message said:

It also demonstrates to me the importance of blowing out
the mucus as opposed to snorfling it up. I carry a kerchief
for collecting mucus, only using the seal-the-nostril
method when I've forgotten it. The kerchief then gets
laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy, seems
rather unsanitary.

I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee
method. Place right index finger on left side of nose, press
inward while sliding finger down toward nostril. Said finger
collects contents of nose which can then be strategically
aimed as a ballistic payload toward something deserving a
little "nose lube".

It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward.
Social niceties demand it.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark Hickey said:

I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee
method. Place right index finger on left side of nose,
press inward while sliding finger down toward nostril.
Said finger collects contents of nose which can then be
strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward
something deserving a little "nose lube".

It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts
afterward. Social niceties demand it.

I'm hesitant to use such demonstrative methods when I'm
about to go into the supermarket to do some grocery
shopping. In fact, there seems to be no way to discretely
blow one's nose anywhere near a supermarket; there's always
an audience.

One time I thought I found a private little spot in the
shipping bay, but there was a bunch of store employees on
their lunch break, sitting on the loading platform,
gawking at me.

Anyway, that's one of the unspoken logistical problems of
utility cycling.

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Quoted message said:

On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-

potato.com said:

I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only using the
seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The
kerchief

then

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril method, while handy,
seems rather unsanitary.

The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't
seem any more sanitary;

You don't think shooting all your germy mucus on to the
street is unsanitary? I'm concentrating mucus in a single,
controlled location for laundering. You're spreading it
far and wide.

Quoted message said:

However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-out,
producing way too much volume for either of those methods
to work well. A kerchief would become quickly unusable,
not to mention difficult to carry.

The kerchief is tied around my neck, and is air-dried as I
ride. My husband tucks a corner of his into the waistband of
his bike shorts, which bears greater risk of loss. With
either method, in heavy rain, it does get quite soggy.

Quoted message said:

Seal-the-nostril gets _very_ messy with large quantities,
and really very gross with a mustache (not a problem for
you, Claire).

If you feel seal-the-nostril is the only way to handle the
river of snot you produce, then I suggest you still wear the
kerchief. You can use it to do the delicate mustache wiping
that follows the main evacuation on the to pavement.
Otherwise, you'll be tempted to use that terry strip on your
gloves. Then your gloves get even ewweyer faster.

Quoted message said:

I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or
cold medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I think
my nose will act up.

If you have allergies, that's one thing. But I would not
take cold medicine to prevent mucus production simply
because of weather conditions.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:19:40 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee
method. Place right index finger on left side of nose,
press inward while sliding finger down toward nostril. Said
finger collects contents of nose which can then be
strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward something
deserving a little "nose lube".

Good idea... I often do this with a kleenex placed
prophylactically between my hand and my nose. However, that
reduces one's ability to fling the nose lube.

Quoted message said:

It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts afterward.
Social niceties demand it.

Eww, crusty shorts. Wipe finger on nearby trees,
grass, or curb.
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Rick Onanian said:

Mark Hickey said:

I've pretty much perfected the one-finger snot squeegee
method. Place right index finger on left side of nose,
press inward while sliding finger down toward nostril.
Said finger collects contents of nose which can then be
strategically aimed as a ballistic payload toward
something deserving a little "nose lube".

Good idea... I often do this with a kleenex placed
prophylactically between my hand and my nose. However,
that reduces one's ability to fling the nose lube.

Quoted message said:

It's important to wipe the finger on your shorts
afterward. Social niceties demand it.

Eww, crusty shorts. Wipe finger on nearby trees, grass,
or curb.

OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.

Freaks.

Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom forced
to resort to nose debris expellation (dry climate
contributes perhaps?)" S.

Claire Petersky wrote:
:: "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: "]news:[email hidden]...
::: On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-
::: potato.com> wrote:
:::: I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only using the
:::: seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it. The
:::: kerchief then gets laundered. The seal-the-nostril
:::: method, while handy, seems rather unsanitary.
:::
::: The kerchief that gets used repeatedly all day doesn't
::: seem any more sanitary;
::
:: You don't think shooting all your germy mucus on to the
:: street is unsanitary?

How could it be? It's not like anyone is going to come in
contact with it since the volume is so small compared to
where it ends up.......it gets spread out and absorbed...

:: I'm concentrating mucus in a single, controlled location
:: for laundering. You're spreading it far and wide.

Having it in a controlled location makes it more unsanitary
to anyone who comes in contact with it, imo.

::
::: However, when my nose begins production, it goes all-
::: out, producing way too much volume for either of those
::: methods to work well. A kerchief would become quickly
::: unusable, not to mention difficult to carry.
::
:: The kerchief is tied around my neck, and is air-dried as
:: I ride. My husband tucks a corner of his into the
:: waistband of his bike shorts, which bears greater risk of
:: loss. With either method, in heavy rain, it does get
:: quite soggy.
::
::: Seal-the-nostril gets _very_ messy with large
::: quantities, and really very gross with a mustache (not a
::: problem for you, Claire).
::
:: If you feel seal-the-nostril is the only way to handle
:: the river of snot you produce, then I suggest you still
:: wear the kerchief. You can use it to do the delicate
:: mustache wiping that follows the main evacuation on the
:: to pavement. Otherwise, you'll be tempted to use that
:: terry strip on your gloves. Then your gloves get even
:: ewweyer faster.
::
::: I forgot to tell the OP what the solution is: Allergy or
::: cold medicine. I take Claritin D before my ride if I
::: think my nose will act up.
::
:: If you have allergies, that's one thing. But I would not
:: take cold medicine to prevent mucus production simply
:: because of weather conditions.

I'm not sure he indicated using medicine because of weather
conditions.

S o r n i said:

OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.

Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom forced
to resort to nose debris expellation (dry climate
contributes perhaps?)" S.

Routing that through your mouth isn't nasty?

I've done it a couple times, and it certainly is gross to
me.
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Quoted message said:

Claire Petersky wrote:
:: "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: "]news:[email hidden]...
::: On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:34:12 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
::: <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::: I carry a kerchief for collecting mucus, only using
:::: the seal-the-nostril method when I've forgotten it.
:::: The kerchief then gets laundered. The seal-the-
:::: nostril method, while handy, seems rather unsanitary.

Maybe I'm a geek, but i carry some kleenex in my pocket,
usually one of those little packages. Also, sometimes in
cooler weather, I carry some bunched up in my sleeve, just
at the wrist. My nose tends to run in cooler weather, now
with the pollen it happens as well. If I get a chance to
stop at a light, I take out the kleenex and give a good
HONK! Ahhh. Also, one reason I carry Kleenex is for potty
stops. T-paper isn't always available at public toilets
along the route.

Rick Onanian wrote:
:: On Fri, 28 May 2004 15:45:40 GMT, "S o r n i" <sorni@bite-
:: me.san.rr.com> wrote:
::: OK, you freaks are just freakin' nasty.
:::
::: Bill "snort, gather, hock works for me; very seldom
::: forced to resort to nose debris expellation (dry climate
::: contributes perhaps?)" S.
::
:: Routing that through your mouth isn't nasty?
::
:: I've done it a couple times, and it certainly is
:: gross to me.

Nasty and gross are relative terms. The thought of your snot
(or anyone's) anywhere near me or within earshot would
certainly be gross and nasty.... 🙂

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

Nasty and gross are relative terms. The thought of your
snot (or anyone's) anywhere near me or within earshot
would certainly be gross and nasty.... 🙂

BTW, the correct term for the one-finger/one-nostril voiding
procedure is "farmer blow".

back when i was a teener in Munich on my English Racer (a
raliegh w/ the dynohub), i ... it's too gross. i had a cold.
i can't. But i got some poor guy rillly bad. Ever get
splashed by passing bus? ya, it was kinda like that. eeeeew!
it was the '70's.

.max looks both ways now.

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Max said:

BTW, the correct term for the one-finger/one-nostril
voiding procedure is "farmer blow".

yea, just for god's sake if you're gonna do that clear your
baffles. i have a vivid memory of coming up behind a guy on
portland ave in minneapolis one early spring morning. as i
came up on his wheel i eased off a bit to check the traffic
to pass and while i looking to the rear i was hit all across
the front of my jersey with snot blast.

i imagine he used your technique (to the rightside).

there's not much to say to someone after that. i passed him
pretty quickly afterwards, shot him a variation of "the
look" i usually save for evil accursed car drivers and
dusted him (ho not in buffy fashion).

Quoted message said:

back when i was a teener in Munich on my English Racer (a
raliegh w/ the dynohub), i ... it's too gross. i had a
cold. i can't. But i got some poor guy rillly bad. Ever
get splashed by passing bus? ya, it was kinda like that.
eeeeew! it was the '70's.

yea. spend any time in minneapolis?
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In article <[email hidden]>,

David Reuteler said:

[...]clear your baffles.

(ss)?

.max ssn-575

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Quoted message said:

What is the reason for producing excess amounts of mucus,
in my case, when road riding? Don't have any cold
symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend

a

Quoted message said:

lot of time either spitting or perfecting the one finger
to the nostril

and

Quoted message said:

blow technique. Can someone clear up the mysteries of
the upper

respiratory

Quoted message said:

tract?

I found that drinking milk in the morning before a ride
contributed greatly to excess mucus during a ride. When I
went on the Atkins diet, the reduction in mucus production
was startling.

Pat in TX

Pat wrote:
::: What is the reason for producing excess amounts of
::: mucus, in my case, when road riding? Don't have any cold
::: symptoms, feel fine, just seem to spend a lot of time
::: either spitting or perfecting the one finger to the
::: nostril and blow technique. Can someone clear up the
::: mysteries of the upper respiratory tract?
::
::
:: I found that drinking milk in the morning before a ride
:: contributed greatly to excess mucus during a ride. When I
:: went on the Atkins diet, the reduction in mucus
:: production was startling.
::

Maybe that explains why have not had any of these "snot"
issues since I've started riding! I've been LCing over two
years and started riding last September. I can't remember
the last time I drank milk....