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  1. IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right over on the
    cassette side, is it possibleor effective without
    compromise to just tighten the other side to bring the dish
    the other way say an 3/16" or less. Tightening that other
    side would then bring my rims torque on the non-cassette
    side up a to a more acceptable level. or does "cheating"
    caws: 1) the rim to tilt over too much or 2) go out of
    radial round or 3)....??

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    Originally posted by G.Daniels
    IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right over on the
    cassette side, is it possibleor effective without
    compromise to just tighten the other side to bring the dish
    the other way say an 3/16" or less. Tightening that other
    side would then bring my rims torque on the non-cassette
    side up a to a more acceptable level. or does "cheating"
    caws: 1) the rim to tilt over too much or 2) go out of
    radial round or 3)....??

    Yes, it is acceptable.
    You should check the true, tension balance, and care for spoke wind-up on the non-drive side as you do it.
    I suggest you try tightening the non-drive nipples in 1/4 turn increments.... overshoot by a 1/2 turn or more to insure you remove wind-up... in other words, tighten 3/4 turn and loosen 1/2 turn each spoke on the non-drive side. Check the wheel for true, centering, tension balance per-side... and repeat as required. This process is quite normal in finishing a wheel. Usually tension balance and radial true does NOT change much in the final stages of centering.. and neither does the lateral truing.

  3. g.daniels said:

    IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right over on the
    cassette side, is it possibleor effective without
    compromise to just tighten the other side to bring the
    dish the other way say an 3/16" or less. Tightening that
    other side would then bring my rims torque on the non-
    cassette side up a to a more acceptable level. or does
    "cheating" caws: 1) the rim to tilt over too much or 2) go
    out of radial round or 3)....??

    You should also loosen the spokes on the cassette side by a
    similar amount. A dishing tool really helps (I've made them
    out of scrap materials in the past).

  4. Zog The Undeniable said:

    You should also loosen the spokes on the cassette side by a
    similar amount. A dishing tool really helps (I've made them
    out of scrap materials in the past).

    Not in my experience. Turns to tighten on the non drive side
    move the rim more toward that side than than a turn to
    loosen on the drive side.

  5. g.daniels said:

    IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right over on the
    cassette side, is it possibleor effective without
    compromise to just tighten the other side to bring the
    dish the other way say an 3/16" or less. Tightening that
    other side would then bring my rims torque on the non-
    cassette side up a to a more acceptable level. or does
    "cheating" caws: 1) the rim to tilt over too much or 2) go
    out of radial round or 3)....??

    I don't look upon that as cheating. As long as the rim is
    not so stressed as being on the verge of tacoland you should
    be OK. Bring the non drive side spokes tighter a quarter
    turn per revolution keeping track of your progress by the
    valve hole and the coat hanger clamped to the seatstay. Keep
    an eye on it just in case something strange is happening as
    you go, but I think you will be problem free.

    One last thing, watch for the spokes extending beyond the
    nipple heads. If this happens damage to the rim tape or tube
    may occur. File or grind as necessary.

    Don't forget to stress relieve, put your feet up hava beer.

    Marcus

  6. Zog The Undeniable said:
    g.daniels said:

    IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right over on
    the cassette side, is it possibleor effective without
    compromise to just tighten the other side to bring the
    dish the other way say an 3/16" or less. Tightening that
    other side would then bring my rims torque on the non-
    cassette side up a to a more acceptable level. or does
    "cheating" caws: 1) the rim to tilt over too much or 2)
    go out of radial round or 3)....??

    You should also loosen the spokes on the cassette side by
    a similar amount. A dishing tool really helps (I've made
    them out of scrap materials in the past).

    I have details of my self-built dishing tool, with drawings
    and photo, on my website (www.acampbell.org.uk/cycling/).

    Anthony

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  7. datakroll-<< IF,when done, the dish is too far to the right
    over on the cassette side, is it possibleor effective
    without compromise to just tighten the other side to bring
    the dish the other way say an 3/16" or less. >><BR><BR>

    A guy that used to work for BPP/DT, Tim Breen, who taught
    the DT wheelbuilding course, taught you to build the right
    side completely, round, true and tensioned, but not
    dished. Then 'pull' the rim over to dish w/o touching the
    right side, but tightening the left side spokes.. Tough to
    do, but you can correct dish with left side tension alone
    w/o problem.

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    Boulder, CO, 80302
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