World's kilo result

"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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For the most part, the kilo is one of the most boring
events on the track. However, every once in awhile, it
does become very interesting.

Today's results had the top 12 riders going below 1:03.00.
By adding to

the

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depth of the rider pool and foregoing the one
rider/country standard of

the

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past, this is definitely one event which has benefited by
qualifying via

the

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World Cup races.

I wish I'd been there to see this one.

Agreed, sounds as though the crowd was huge and definately
into it. I was hoping for Tournant to regain his crown,
still a very impressive ride for him especially after
anchoring 3 Team Sprints yestarday. Dave

"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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For the most part, the kilo is one of the most boring
events on the track. However, every once in awhile, it
does become very interesting.

Today's results had the top 12 riders going below 1:03.00.
By adding to the depth of the rider pool and foregoing the
one rider/country standard of the past, this is definitely
one event which has benefited by qualifying via the World
Cup races.

I wish I'd been there to see this one.

Carl--

Discounting Hoy's time, there was less than 1 second
between 2nd and 12th--unreal, better hoped you pumped your
tires enough...

I guess any time trial event would be "boring" to watch,
particularly since you don't see all the competitors side
by side. You have to really like the mechanics of the near-
minute kilo to be truly amazed. These guys start from a
gate on a (large) fixed gear, quickly reach nearly 40 mph,
then hold on for a total time equivalent to five 12 second
200m TTs back to back! OK, I guess that's still not as
exciting as the NBA, but it's my favorite event (I guess
that's why I do it!)

What's attractive to me is the kilo's simple deterministic
nature. No tactics, no BS. Just show up, click in, wait for
the count, and prove you da man. And if you win by .001
second (as Chris did at worlds two years ago), be thankful
for that extra 2 PSI you put in your tires!

And it should come as little surprise that - on a relative
scale - I find the pursuit to be the most boring event in
track. Just like a kilo, except slower and three (or four)
times as long... but when it comes down to it, it's easy to
watch kilos and pursuits at Worlds, because they are all
(OK, almost all) so good!

[no "Joey d'"]Anton[no "i ", no "Carl Sund"]Quist

"Anton Quist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess any time trial event would be "boring" to watch,
particularly since you don't see all the competitors side
by side. You have to really like the mechanics of the near-
minute kilo to be truly amazed. These guys start from a
gate on a (large) fixed gear, quickly reach nearly 40 mph,
then hold on for a total time equivalent to five 12 second
200m TTs back to back! OK, I guess that's still not as
exciting as the NBA, but it's my favorite event (I guess
that's why I do it!)

I appreciate any quality kilo even on a regional level, but
to have a string of sub 1:03 kilos like that is, AFAIK,
unheard of.

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What's attractive to me is the kilo's simple deterministic
nature. No tactics, no BS. Just show up, click in, wait
for the count, and prove you da man. And if you win by
.001 second (as Chris did at worlds two years ago), be
thankful for that extra 2 PSI you put in your tires!

And it should come as little surprise that - on a relative
scale - I find the pursuit to be the most boring event in
track. Just like a kilo, except slower and three (or four)
times as long... but when it comes down to it, it's easy
to watch kilos and pursuits at Worlds, because they are
all (OK, almost all) so good!

I have often said that the pursuit is an extremely dull
event. Even in a large tournament like nationals or
worlds, only about the top 6 or 8 rides are interesting.
On the whole, pursuiting is simply not a spectator
orient(at)ed event.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Carl Sundquist said:

"Anton Quist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess any time trial event would be "boring" to watch,
particularly since you don't see all the competitors
side by side. You have to really like the mechanics of
the near-minute kilo to be truly amazed. These guys
start from a gate on a (large) fixed gear, quickly reach
nearly 40 mph, then hold on for a total time equivalent
to five 12 second 200m TTs back to back! OK, I guess
that's still not as exciting as the NBA, but it's my
favorite event (I guess that's why I do it!)

I appreciate any quality kilo even on a regional level,
but to have a string of sub 1:03 kilos like that is,
AFAIK, unheard of.

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What's attractive to me is the kilo's simple
deterministic nature. No tactics, no BS. Just show up,
click in, wait for the count, and prove you da man. And
if you win by .001 second (as Chris did at worlds two
years ago), be thankful for that extra 2 PSI you put in
your tires!

And it should come as little surprise that - on a
relative scale - I find the pursuit to be the most
boring event in track. Just like a kilo, except slower
and three (or four) times as long... but when it comes
down to it, it's easy to watch kilos and pursuits at
Worlds, because they are all (OK, almost all) so good!

I have often said that the pursuit is an extremely dull
event. Even in a large tournament like nationals or
worlds, only about the top 6 or 8 rides are interesting.
On the whole, pursuiting is simply not a spectator
orient(at)ed event.

Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob Piil
won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me on the
edge of my seat.

-Sonarrat.

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Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob Piil
won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me on the
edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of that
start. I think it's a bit different than someone already
going 25+ mph and seeing who has any lungs and legs left.
That's why I do it!!!

I think that pursuits should be mixed between sprinting
events so the crowd can watch and maybe appreciate a
pursuit without completely stalling the excitment of the
track sprints.

in article opr8x4q4m27qylw0@crowley, Tom at
[email hidden] wrote on
6/1/04 7:46 PM:

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Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob
Piil won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me on
the edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of that
start. I think it's a bit different than someone already
going 25+ mph and seeing who has any lungs and legs left.
That's why I do it!!!

I think that pursuits should be mixed between sprinting
events so the crowd can watch and maybe appreciate a
pursuit without completely stalling the excitment of the
track sprints.

You are right - I'm showing my illiteracy in the track lingo
here. Actually, I have no idea what most of the events are,
much less what their rules are and what kind of athleticism
it takes to do them well..

-Sonarrat.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sonarrat said:

in article opr8x4q4m27qylw0@crowley, Tom at
[email hidden] wrote on
6/1/04 7:46 PM:

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Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob
Piil won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me
on the edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of
that start. I think it's a bit different than someone
already going 25+ mph and seeing who has any lungs and
legs left. That's why I do it!!!

I think that pursuits should be mixed between sprinting
events so the crowd can watch and maybe appreciate a
pursuit without completely stalling the excitment of the
track sprints.

You are right - I'm showing my illiteracy in the track
lingo here. Actually, I have no idea what most of the
events are, much less what their rules are and what kind
of athleticism it takes to do them well..

-Sonarrat.

If you get a chance, go up to the Hellyer velodrome -
it's just up 101 from you. It looks like they run
training races on Wednesday night now. Regular racing
starts this Friday. Here's the page for the track - it
has some good info on it about track racing, too.
<http://www.stanford.edu/~roadman/Bike_Racing/NCVA/>

--
tanx, Howard

"Copper will never be gold" Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

in article [email hidden], Howard
Kveck at [email hidden] wrote on 6/1/04 9:45 PM:

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In article <[email hidden]>, Sonarrat

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in article opr8x4q4m27qylw0@crowley, Tom at
[email hidden] wrote on
6/1/04 7:46 PM:

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> Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
> occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob
> Piil won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me
> on the edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of
that start. I think it's a bit different than someone
already going 25+ mph and seeing who has any lungs and
legs left. That's why I do it!!!

I think that pursuits should be mixed between sprinting
events so the crowd can watch and maybe appreciate a
pursuit without completely stalling the excitment of the
track sprints.

You are right - I'm showing my illiteracy in the track
lingo here. Actually, I have no idea what most of the
events are, much less what their rules are and what kind
of athleticism it takes to do them well..

-Sonarrat.

If you get a chance, go up to the Hellyer velodrome - it's
just up 101 from you. It looks like they run training
races on Wednesday night now. Regular racing starts this
Friday. Here's the page for the track - it has some good
info on it about track racing, too.
<http://www.stanford.edu/~roadman/Bike_Racing/NCVA/>

Sure, I know where that place is, I ride past it on the bike
trail occasionally. The Wednesday training races seem to be
geared towards those with more track experience than me,
maybe a Saturday morning session would be better to get my
wheels under me first...

-Sonarrat.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sonarrat said:

in article YOURhoward-
[email hidden], Howard Kveck at
[email hidden] wrote on 6/1/04 9:45 PM:

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If you get a chance, go up to the Hellyer velodrome -
it's just up 101 from you. It looks like they run
training races on Wednesday night now. Regular racing
starts this Friday. Here's the page for the track - it
has some good info on it about track racing, too.
<http://www.stanford.edu/~roadman/Bike_Racing/NCVA/>

Sure, I know where that place is, I ride past it on the
bike trail occasionally. The Wednesday training races seem
to be geared towards those with more track experience than
me, maybe a Saturday morning session would be better to
get my wheels under me first...

-Sonarrat.

Sure, but just going to check out the races is fun, too.
If you want to actually try the track, I'd say see about
getting a fixed gear bike and get a little bit used to it
before you get on the track. Just sayin'...

--
tanx, Howard

"Copper will never be gold" Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Originally posted by Carl Sundquist
"Anton Quist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess any time trial event would be "boring" to watch,
particularly since you don't see all the competitors side
by side. You have to really like the mechanics of the near-
minute kilo to be truly amazed. These guys start from a
gate on a (large) fixed gear, quickly reach nearly 40 mph,
then hold on for a total time equivalent to five 12 second
200m TTs back to back! OK, I guess that's still not as
exciting as the NBA, but it's my favorite event (I guess
that's why I do it!)

I appreciate any quality kilo even on a regional level, but
to have a string of sub 1:03 kilos like that is, AFAIK,
unheard of.

Quoted message said:

What's attractive to me is the kilo's simple deterministic
nature. No tactics, no BS. Just show up, click in, wait
for the count, and prove you da man. And if you win by
.001 second (as Chris did at worlds two years ago), be
thankful for that extra 2 PSI you put in your tires!

And it should come as little surprise that - on a relative
scale - I find the pursuit to be the most boring event in
track. Just like a kilo, except slower and three (or four)
times as long... but when it comes down to it, it's easy
to watch kilos and pursuits at Worlds, because they are
all (OK, almost all) so good!

I have often said that the pursuit is an extremely dull
event. Even in a large tournament like nationals or
worlds, only about the top 6 or 8 rides are interesting.
On the whole, pursuiting is simply not a spectator
orient(at)ed event.

IP's are not incredibly exciting, this is true, but team pursuit is perhaps the coolest cycling event there is to watch. Especially if the team screws up and (as Joey D would say) eats sh&t. I would imagine it would be a really fun event to race, too, but alas there is no women's TP unless you're an Aussie.

"Tom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:opr8x4q4m27qylw0@crowley...

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Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob
Piil won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me
on the edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of
that start.

Any successful pursuiter who turns a big gear refutes
that argument.

"Tom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:opr8x4q4m27qylw0@crowley...

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Personally, I find 2-man pursuits thrilling - when they
occur at the end of a road race. The stage that Jakob
Piil won in the TdF last year over Fabio Sacchi had me
on the edge of my seat.

That is a full-out sprint and not a 2-man pursuit!
Pursuits start from a standing start (zero mph)and
pursuits are won and lost in the first 3-5 seconds of
that start.

Total nonsense.

Andy Coggan