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Suspect a co-worker lied on resume and danger to patient care

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  1. This is going to be a long post and I am sorry about that.
    I'll summarize my questions up front and if you are so
    inclined to read the rest of this I'd really appreciate it
    and any advice you folks might have. The ultimate question I
    have is: who is allowed to check references on an employee's
    resume and where is the line between privacy and background
    checking drawn? What can I do to protect myself and the
    other clinical staff in the event that an incompetent staff
    member actually harms a patient (we work in healthcare,
    obviously)?

    The background: I am a physician who works at a college
    student health center. For the most part things go smoothly
    but there are times that it can get very busy to the point
    that extra hands are needed to help draw blood, triage
    patients, start IV's, etc. Last year, a clinic manager was
    hired as an administrator to help deal with scheduling
    issues and also to help out clinically; we (the clinical
    staff) were hoping that the hire would be a nurse
    practitioner so that this person would be able to triage
    (and treat, even) patients when appointments are no longer
    available, give allergy injections, put patients in rooms,
    start IV's-- pretty much be a jack of all trades when things
    get crazy busy to absorb the extra work.

    Unfortunately, a nurse practitioner was not hired (for
    whatever reasons-- salary demands possibly). This person
    holds a BS in nursing but we thought-- ok, a good nurse
    should be able to do most of what we had hoped (though she
    would not be able to *treat* a sick patient since she is not
    a clinician as a NP would be. At best she would have to
    determine who needs to be seen now versus later). She seemed
    to be overwhelmed with all of the job duties at first but I
    thought to myself that it was just growing pains and that
    she would improve.

    After 8 months it became apparent to me that she would not.
    For one, despite her claims to me that she worked for an
    ambulance company, worked in a cardiac intensive care unit,
    and that she holds a BS in nursing, she has had a LOT of
    trouble drawing blood and starting IV's. Other nurses in the
    clinic have REPEATEDLY offered to help her with her skills
    in these and other areas and she invariably gives a excuse
    that she needs to work on the schedule, has to work on this
    or that-- anything to avoid actually working on her skills
    it seems. She had mistriaged at least 2 patients (one was
    mine, another was another nurse practitioner's) and sent
    them home when they should have been seen right away. And
    she seems to have no concept of sterile technique when
    catheterizing patients. Even worse, routine tasks that she
    should know how to do by now just by virtue of working here
    for 8 months (like how to check the computer for schedules)
    she cannot remember how to do them.

    I (and several other nurses and nurse practitioners) have
    taken our concerns to our immediate supervisor (the senior
    physician) who in turn has taken it to the director of
    student health. The nurses also took their concerns to the
    director directly before the senior physician did (since the
    director is a nurse also) and they were told to essentially
    teach the clinic manager the needed skills and help her out
    (yes, the clinic manager is supposed to be the nursing
    staff's supervisor and yet they are supposed to teach her
    nursing skills that she should already have). The senior
    physician and medical director also might have met with the
    clinic manager though I do not know what was discussed. The
    effect on her performance has been nonexistent in my
    opinion. I have offered to help her in any way-- especially
    with triage and patient assessment but after one half-
    hearted meeting where I don't think she heard a word I said,
    her efforts to improve have evaporated. Since one of her
    excuses for her poor performance has been that people
    haven't helped her with her work and haven't shown her how
    to do things, I sent her a followup email outlining my
    position on what she needs to improve on, gave some specific
    advice on how to improve, and pledged my help. I don't
    believe she has followed any of that advice but at least I
    have a written record of offering to help and how she can
    improve some of her skills so that excuse is dead (I hope).

    Since I can't be watching this woman all the time to make
    sure she doesn't make any bad mistakes I am fairly certain
    that a patient is going to be hurt by her and I don't want
    to accept the blame for her. And I don't want her to be able
    to blame any of the good nurses that we have. The only thing
    that keeps things reasonably safe is the relatively low
    acuity level of our patient population. Really sick patients
    rarely come but it can happen. I have recommended that the
    nurses keep a written record of when they offer to help her
    with a certain skill (whether she accepts or claims to be
    too busy) and sign and time/date it each time. This way we
    can demonstrate that they made every effort to help this
    woman and she just did not accept it. Is there a better way
    to do this? Any way to get a time-stamp of some sort on the
    record so they won't be accused of faking it later on? It
    doesn't necessarily have to be legally accepted (though that
    would be great), just something more believable than a
    written piece of paper. [More bizarrely, the word to us from
    the clinic director is that her position is "only 10-15%
    clinical" so her clinical skill deficiencies aren't all that
    serious(!)].

    Her skills do not correlate with her reported background
    which is why I would like to ask my supervisor for
    permission to look at her resume and do a background check
    on her past employment. I am certain that she
    lied/exaggerated her skill level. If that is true and I can
    show that to the clinic director, I can't see how anything
    but immediate termination would be the outcome (but maybe
    I'm just being naive about that). Still, I am so dumbfounded
    by Diane's lack of medical knowledge that I feel I must do
    SOMETHING to keep my patients safe. [BTW-- there is no
    nepotism or cronyism involved here. She comes from another
    state far away and wasn't friends with the clinic director
    before in order to get the job. My university just got that
    lucky]. And I sure don't want to be the scapegoat here.

    Anyone have any advice to try to 'out' her to the clinic
    director or capture her lack of motivation to improve? And
    to protect ourselves from blame for her mistakes?

  2. Doctor Tofu said:

    This is going to be a long post and I am sorry about that.
    I'll summarize my questions up front and if you are so
    inclined to read the rest of this I'd really appreciate it
    and any advice you folks might have. The ultimate question
    I have is: who is allowed to check references on an
    employee's resume and where is the line between privacy
    and background checking drawn? What can I do to protect
    myself and the other clinical staff in the event that an
    incompetent staff member actually harms a patient (we work
    in healthcare, obviously)?


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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any advice to try to 'out' her to the clinic
    director or capture her lack of motivation to improve? And
    to protect ourselves from blame for her mistakes?

    Does your state's laws require an appropriate certification
    or license to do invasive procedures? She may have been a
    dispatcher for EMS or been an EMT on a transfer unit where
    no ALS was done and a ward clerk on an ICU. The state EMS
    authority in the other state should be able to provide
    certification history. (Some states rely on USDOT
    certifications, but that history should also be available.)
    The nurse licensure authority should be able to supply
    licensure history, if any.

    She's performing invasive care under kind of physician
    medical direction. Is that you, when you're on duty? In my
    experience (20+ years licensed paramedic in Texas), it seem
    to me that when you set someone to perform care, you're on
    the hook. I suspect that turning the job over to someone
    whom you doubt has the ability to do it is abandonment or
    something like it.

    You have my sympathy. We both know that the [censored] who's
    giving alergy shots and starting IV's likely wouldn't
    recognize or responde properly to anaphylaxis and is not
    likely double checking med lables. And someone with
    obviously limited or nonexistent clinical experience is
    especially dangerous doing triage in an environment where
    serious stuff isn't anticipated, since she won't be tuned up
    to catch the true emergencies. I hope they'd rather have you
    than her, in case you have to bring it to a head.
    --
    Gerald Clough "Nothing has any value,
    unless you know you can give it up."

  3. Quoted message said:

    Her skills do not correlate with her reported background
    which is why I would like to ask my supervisor for
    permission to look at her resume and do a background check
    on her past employment. I am certain that she
    lied/exaggerated her skill level. If that is true and I
    can show that to the clinic director, I can't see how
    anything but immediate termination would be the outcome
    (but maybe I'm just being naive about that). Still, I am
    so dumbfounded by Diane's lack of medical knowledge that I
    feel I must do SOMETHING to keep my patients safe. [BTW--
    there is no nepotism or cronyism involved here. She comes
    from another state far away and wasn't friends with the
    clinic director before in order to get the job. My
    university just got that lucky]. And I sure don't want to
    be the scapegoat here.

    Anyone have any advice to try to 'out' her to the clinic
    director or capture her lack of motivation to improve? And
    to protect ourselves from blame for her mistakes?

    As a physician you should remember that you are ultimately
    responsible for the care of your patients. I can tell you
    that your situation sounds strange to me though since you
    have not taken any affirmative action already. I have seen
    many physicians instruct the nursing staff that "so and so"
    is to never touch a patient, institute peer review, or in
    some cases demand that a certain nurse be fired. While I
    don't know how things work where you are, if your chief of
    staff doesn't care about the performance of the nurses, you
    are in a lot of trouble.

    My advice is get yourself into risk management right now
    and tell them what is going on; don't make their problem
    yours by doing background checks. You will probably be able
    to throw around a lot more weight than you seem to
    indicate. You may want to also call your insurer,
    particularly if no one in your clinic listens to you.
    Remember that you are already the scapegoat because the
    people she is screwing up on are your patients, not hers.
    Make sure you document every error for peer review (use the
    appropriate forms), and go to the actual review and don't
    sugar coat anything. If your clinic doesn't take action,
    consider filing a complaint with the nursing board. You may
    have to go out of a limb and take a stand against her, but
    your nurses are your problem. If this person really is
    incompetent, you do not want to wait until she messes up a
    blood pressure reading, and you get a malpractice suit from
    prescribing a routine birth control method.

  4. On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:41:03 -0400, [email hidden] (Doctor Tofu)

    Quoted message said:

    Her skills do not correlate with her reported background
    which is why I would like to ask my supervisor for
    permission to look at her resume and do a background check
    on her past employment.

    You have not only the right but the DUTY to tell your
    supervisor of your suspicions if you believe that her
    "skills" are endangering patients.

    And you may be focusing on the wrong problem. The problem
    might have nothing to do with her resume, but simply that
    she is incompetent.

    In any event, you should talk to your supervisor
    immediately.

    *Dan Evans *Author of the Tax Protester FAQ *evans-evans-
    legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

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