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DHEA score of zero

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  1. My wife has a DHEA score of zero. Well actually it is up to
    0.3. It has been zero. She has been taking a supplement for
    some time.

    She is 37 yo and has had a difficult medical history. I
    won't go too much into this here. However, she does manage
    somewhat heroically to swim 1.5 km three times a week. She
    is the mother of two young girls and gives them the energy
    they need.

    Doctors,nutritionists etc can't believe their eyes when they
    see the blood test results, and it is very disconcerting.
    there ain't no mistake here by the way, she's had umpteen
    blood tests over recent times. Its fair to say she wonders
    if the low DHEA means something dreadful.

    She has always had wonderful skin but I would say this has
    deteriorated over the past year or so. In particular hands
    are very dry. However this could be due to some of the
    prescription drugs she takes...eg at the moment she is
    using Ciproxin.

    I've read both the pro-DHEA and the DHEA sceptic stuff at a
    summary level. But at a simple level, does anyone know of a
    zero DHEA score in a 37 year old. Is it as bad as it sounds?
    Why don't the supplements seem to work? any other
    interesting comments?

    thanks

    CR

  2. "Clive R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife has a DHEA score of zero. Well actually it is up
    to 0.3. It has been zero. She has been taking a supplement
    for some time.

    She is 37 yo and has had a difficult medical history. I
    won't go too much into this here. However, she does manage
    somewhat heroically to swim 1.5 km three times a week. She
    is the mother of two young girls and gives them the energy
    they need.

    Doctors,nutritionists etc can't believe their eyes when
    they see the blood test results, and it is very
    disconcerting. there ain't no mistake here by the way,
    she's had umpteen blood tests over recent times. Its fair
    to say she wonders if the low DHEA means something
    dreadful.

    She has always had wonderful skin but I would say this has
    deteriorated over the past year or so. In particular hands
    are very dry. However this could be due to some of the
    prescription drugs she takes...eg at the moment she is
    using Ciproxin.

    I've read both the pro-DHEA and the DHEA sceptic stuff at
    a summary level. But at a simple level, does anyone know
    of a zero DHEA score in a 37 year old. Is it as bad as it
    sounds? Why don't the supplements seem to work? any other
    interesting comments?

    Perhaps DHEA taken orally isn't the best route. Don't get me
    wrong, the oral route seems to work pretty well with dhea
    Perhaps you could get an endocrinologist to prescribe a
    compounded dhea gel. You would have to go to a special
    pharmacy the does compounding. They would formulate the gel
    in the shop. The prescription forms of dhea such as the
    prasterone tablets or the gel should be covered by your
    insurance What was her testosterone level?

    I'll bet she has other hormonal problems.

    I'd think that the low dhea levels could lead to
    osteoporosis as in the bone it is converted into estrogen
    and in other tissues into testosterone in females.

    The textbook seems only concerned with excesses of dhea.

    Has she taken any antifungal drugs? They can be quite
    damaging in males so perhaps they do something similar
    females.

    Oh wait........dhea is made in the adrenals. Has she been
    checked for adrenal dysfunction. What is the name of the
    autoimmune disorder where the adrenals destroyed? President
    John Kennedy had it. Addison's disease .....granted I think
    that disease in terms of a lack of ACTH. Your wife need a
    good endocrinologist not some bare bottomed baboon that
    calls itself a M.D. or a dietician.

    Given the way it sounds, I'll suggest that to be a smart
    consumer of physicians you and your wife need some books. An
    endocrinology textbook, a medical manual like the Merck
    manual, a medical dictionary, an endocrinology dictionary,
    laboratory diagnosis guide book, plus more specific books on
    what ever she is diagnosed with.

    Without details that is as good as I can do. And anyway I
    not a physician so...........

    William A. Noyes

    Quoted message said:


    thanks

    CR

  3. many thanks william

    interesting about anti-fungal frugs

    she spent 2002 on massive quantities of anti-fungal drugs.
    she had a bowel resection and got resistant yeast
    infections.

    went from fluroconazole to intravenous caspofungin to
    voriconazole!!

    adrenal glands...don't know perhaps we should check
    this.....

    her bone density has actually improved somewhat recently but
    is probablt still at he low end of the scale. she is always
    very low on iron and always has low blood pressure.

    "William A. Noyes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Clive R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My wife has a DHEA score of zero. Well actually it is up
    to 0.3. It has been zero. She has been taking a
    supplement for some time.

    She is 37 yo and has had a difficult medical history. I
    won't go too much into this here. However, she does
    manage somewhat heroically to swim 1.5 km three times a
    week. She is the mother of two young girls and gives
    them the energy they need.

    Doctors,nutritionists etc can't believe their eyes when
    they see the blood test results, and it is very
    disconcerting. there ain't no mistake here by the way,
    she's had umpteen blood tests over recent times. Its
    fair to say she wonders if the low DHEA means something
    dreadful.

    She has always had wonderful skin but I would say this
    has deteriorated over the past year or so. In particular
    hands are very dry. However this could be due to some of
    the prescription drugs she takes...eg at the moment she
    is using Ciproxin.

    I've read both the pro-DHEA and the DHEA sceptic stuff
    at a summary level. But at a simple level, does anyone
    know of a zero DHEA score in a 37 year old. Is it as bad
    as it sounds? Why don't the supplements seem to work?
    any other interesting comments?

    Perhaps DHEA taken orally isn't the best route. Don't get
    me wrong, the oral route seems to work pretty well with
    dhea Perhaps you could get an endocrinologist to prescribe
    a compounded dhea gel. You would have to go to a special
    pharmacy the does compounding. They would formulate the
    gel in the shop. The prescription forms of dhea such as
    the prasterone tablets or the gel should be covered by
    your insurance What was her testosterone level?

    I'll bet she has other hormonal problems.

    I'd think that the low dhea levels could lead to
    osteoporosis as in the bone it is converted into estrogen
    and in other tissues into testosterone in females.

    The textbook seems only concerned with excesses of dhea.

    Has she taken any antifungal drugs? They can be quite
    damaging in males so perhaps they do something similar
    females.

    Oh wait........dhea is made in the adrenals. Has she been
    checked for adrenal dysfunction. What is the name of the
    autoimmune disorder where the adrenals destroyed?
    President John Kennedy had it. Addison's disease
    .....granted I think that disease in terms of a lack of
    ACTH. Your wife need a good endocrinologist not some bare
    bottomed baboon that calls itself a M.D. or a dietician.

    Given the way it sounds, I'll suggest that to be a smart
    consumer of physicians you and your wife need some books.
    An endocrinology textbook, a medical manual like the Merck
    manual, a medical dictionary, an endocrinology dictionary,
    laboratory diagnosis guide book, plus more specific books
    on what ever she is diagnosed with.

    Without details that is as good as I can do. And anyway I
    not a physician so...........

    William A. Noyes

    Quoted message said:


    thanks

    CR

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