Salmon in the deep end

"alzelt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed salmon,
but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb. Methinks the
fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on this year's
price. Leastwise They won't be getting my business this
year. Normally, I would buy three or four over the
duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going up
this year, no one would notice this price increase.

I heard the same thing from other sources about the big
price jump this year but no reasonable explanation for it.

"alzelt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed salmon,
but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb. Methinks the
fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on this year's
price. Leastwise They won't be getting my business this
year. Normally, I would buy three or four over the
duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going up
this year, no one would notice this price increase.
--
Alan

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling fresh
Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be there so fast
that you'd probably hear the sonic boom out in Seattle!

--
Peter Aitken

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alzelt said:

Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed salmon,
but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb. Methinks the
fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on this year's
price. Leastwise They won't be getting my business this
year. Normally, I would buy three or four over the
duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going up
this year, no one would notice this price increase.

I was at the Sand Point Metropolitan Market when they got
their first delivery of Copper River salmon on Tuesday. The
guy behind the fish counter asked, "$19.99 a pound or
$24.99 a pound?" I decided to let SO be the first one to
pay the price.

Cindy

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C.J. Fuller

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Sam D. said:

I heard the same thing from other sources about the big
price jump this year but no reasonable explanation for it.

People are stupid enough to pay it.

Fishermen are getting 3 times last years prices. Great for
fishermen, sucks for buyers. But, as long as buyers pay the
price... just like gas prices. I'm eating catfish and riding
my motorcycle.

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"Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling fresh
Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be there so
fast that you'd probably hear

the

Quoted message said:

sonic boom out in Seattle!

--
Peter Aitken

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Ditto for Florida

Peter Aitken said:

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling fresh
Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be there so
fast that you'd probably hear the sonic boom out in
Seattle!

Whole Foods has Wild King Salmon Steak for $10.99.

--
jmk in NC

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Quoted message said:

Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed salmon,
but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb. Methinks the
fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on this year's
price. Leastwise They won't be getting my business this
year. Normally, I would buy three or four over the
duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going up
this year, no one would notice this price increase.
--
Alan

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling fresh
Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be there so
fast that you'd probably hear the sonic boom out in
Seattle!

Now that is sad. 🙂
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
-- James Michener

Sam D. said:

"alzelt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed salmon,
but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb. Methinks the
fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on this year's
price. Leastwise They won't be getting my business this
year. Normally, I would buy three or four over the
duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going up
this year, no one would notice this price increase.

I heard the same thing from other sources about the big
price jump this year but no reasonable explanation for it.

Gas prices are up, as is the price for cement, as well as
all milk products. With that in mind, why not just raise
prices. Most people just accept this as "normal."
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
-- James Michener

at Fri, 21 May 2004 06:33:44 GMT in <[email hidden]>,
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Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to
Seattle...

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the fish
last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb...

I heard the same thing from other sources about the big
price jump this year but no reasonable explanation for it.

Possibly competition from Japan. I know that there are
buyers there willing to pay just about any price for salmon.
Makes sense - fish is a lot bigger in Japan than in the USA.

The arguments are the same every year - is it *really* worth
the price? Part of the problem is the fact that the hype
obscures how good the fish
is. On the one hand, you have the people who buy hook, line,
and sinker into the hype and are uncritical in their
adulation. On the other hand, you have the people who
are so disgusted by the hype that even if it were the
best fish in the world they wouldn't want to go near it.

It's hard to deny that Copper River salmon is extremely
good, in part because, at least in Seattle, it's extremely
fresh. Have I had better salmon? Yes. Did I have to pay the
kind of prices for that better salmon that I would have for
Copper River? Yes. You get what you pay for. I suspect the
price has less to do with hype than in might seem and more
to do with shipping costs, market fluctuations, overall
salmon supply, run strength, and other variables. IIRC last
year's run was extremely strong, so if this year's run isn't
as good, it might explain the price hike as well.

It's all pretty relative. Each of us has different upper
limits on how much we'd be willing to pay for different
things. I think that about $30/lb is the absolute upper
limit on how much I'd pay for the best possible salmon in
the world. OTOH, I'd be prepared to spend $100/lb (perhaps
more) for the best possible beef tenderloin in the world.
(As it turns out there's a pretty amazing local source here
in Seattle for tenderloin - at $23/lb. Expensive, but worth
every penny.) Meanwhile, I wouldn't want to spend more than
about $10.00/lb for the best possible walnuts in the world.
At Uwajimaya you can get rices selling for upwards of
$30.00/lb. I wouldn't spend that kind of money on rice no
matter how good it were. But I can understand that there are
people who probably would and who could probably appreciate
the difference in quality that this represents.

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"alzelt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Peter Aitken said:

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling
fresh Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be
there so fast that you'd probably hear

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sonic boom out in Seattle!

Now that is sad. 🙂
--
Alan

Copper River salmon usually gets shipped to Sandy Eggo on
Alaska Airlines on the second day after the season opens
and is featured in many restaurants here. This year I
haven't seen any announcements for it. Perhaps the cost is
just too high.

Charlie

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alzelt said:

Peter Aitken said:

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Quoted message said:

Every May, just prior to the Memorial Day Weekend,
Alaskans send down their Copper River Salmon to Seattle.
On the surface, their King and Sockeye salmon is very
good. Mostly due to the higher fat content. (Seems fish
heading back up longer rivers need a higher fat
content).

A man named Rowley, who's pretty damn good at marketing,
has managed to convince a goodly number of people that
it's worth more than "regular" salmon (not farmed
salmon, but troll caught Kings, etc).

Last year at this time I was paying $4.95/lb for whole
Copper River Sockeye. On the whole, not bad price for a
fish out of the water less than 24 hours.

I showed up at the same supermarket that sold me the
fish last year. This year's price was $11.95/lb.
Methinks the fishing guru's made a big miscalculation on
this year's price. Leastwise They won't be getting my
business this year. Normally, I would buy three or four
over the duration of the season.

Guess they think that with the cost of everything going
up this year, no one would notice this price increase.
--
Alan

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling
fresh Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be
there so fast that you'd probably hear the sonic boom
out in Seattle!

Now that is sad. 🙂

Sad, but true. When we lived in NC, we'd have to pay
exorbitant (at the time) prices for Copper River salmon for
the week or two in June when we could get it at the Fresh
Market. The alternative was the pasty, farm-raised, Atlantic
salmon. No competition--we'd pony up and pay for the Copper
River fish.

Cindy

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Charles Gifford said:

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Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken said:

If someone around here (North Carolina) were selling
fresh Copper River salmon for $11.95 a pound I'd be there
so fast that you'd probably hear

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sonic boom out in Seattle!

Now that is sad. 🙂
--
Alan

Copper River salmon usually gets shipped to Sandy Eggo on
Alaska Airlines on the second day after the season opens
and is featured in many restaurants here. This year I
haven't seen any announcements for it. Perhaps the cost is
just too high.

Charlie

If you have to ask the price, Charlie, you probably can't
afford it. (:
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
-- James Michener

"alzelt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Charles Gifford said:

Copper River salmon usually gets shipped to Sandy Eggo
on Alaska

Airlines on

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Quoted message said:

the second day after the season opens and is featured
in many

restaurants

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Quoted message said:

here. This year I haven't seen any announcements for it.
Perhaps the

cost is

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just too high.

Charlie

If you have to ask the price, Charlie, you probably can't
afford it. (:
--
Alan

No lie. No salmon in sight for me. I had beans and rice
again. With homemade applesauce as dessert.

Charlie

"Charles Gifford" <& "alzelt"
: >
: > >
: > > Copper River salmon usually gets shipped to Sandy
: > > Eggo on
Alaska
: Airlines on
: > > the second day after the season opens and is
: > > featured in
many
: restaurants
: > > here. This year I haven't seen any announcements
: > > for it.
Perhaps the
: cost is
: > > just too high.
: > >
: > > Charlie
: > >
: > >
: > If you have to ask the price, Charlie, you
: > probably can't
afford it. (:
: > --
: > Alan
:
: No lie. No salmon in sight for me. I had beans and
: rice again.
With homemade
: applesauce as dessert.
:
: Charlie
:
: =========

Going OT here... while I know Alan said what he said in
jest... that's one phrase that I've always disliked.
Partially, I suppose, because there have many times where
I/we were in a financial nightmare(!)...but mostly because
of the attitude the phrase exudes. Eww... Personally
speaking, whether I can afford something or not is often not
the case; it's usually more of a 'do I *want* to pay that
much for something'?

Just a lil' insight into my tiny little brain. LOL
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Rick & Cyndi said:

"Charles Gifford" <& "alzelt"
: >
: > >
: > > Copper River salmon usually gets shipped to Sandy
: > > Eggo on
Alaska
: Airlines on
: > > the second day after the season opens and is
: > > featured in
many
: restaurants
: > > here. This year I haven't seen any announcements for
: > > it.
Perhaps the
: cost is
: > > just too high.
: > >
: > > Charlie
: > >
: > >
: > If you have to ask the price, Charlie, you probably
: > can't
afford it. (:
: > --
: > Alan
:
: No lie. No salmon in sight for me. I had beans and rice
: again.
With homemade
: applesauce as dessert.
:
: Charlie
:
: =========

Going OT here... while I know Alan said what he said in
jest... that's one phrase that I've always disliked.
Partially, I suppose, because there have many times where
I/we were in a financial nightmare(!)...but mostly because
of the attitude the phrase exudes. Eww... Personally
speaking, whether I can afford something or not is often
not the case; it's usually more of a 'do I *want* to pay
that much for something'?

Just a lil' insight into my tiny little brain. LOL

OK, then we will rephrase it for your consumption. It is
often wiser to not eat an inferior product, saving up the
money to buy a better product at a later time.

--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the relig-
ion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
-- James Michener