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Originally posted by Tom Sherman

BMr.Ed Dolan said:

...That is why liberals and other politically correct
types think it is just fine to search little old white
Christian grandmothers before allowing them to board an
airplane at one of our airports and they do not want any
profiling done when of course anyone with a brain in his
head knows that the most likely terrorists are going to
belong to a certain race, religion and ethnicity....

McVeigh - US resident adult male, white, Irish name,
terrorist. Dolan - US resident adult male, (presumably)
white, Irish name, terrorist?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area [/B]

Whats the real story with McVeigh?Here is a guy we should have kept around just to torture until he spilled his guts.He was an enemy agent for the Islamic Jew haters.

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Mr.Ed Dolan said:

...That is why liberals and other politically correct
types think it is just fine to search little old white
Christian grandmothers before

allowing

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them to board an airplane at one of our airports and
they do not want

any

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profiling done when of course anyone with a brain in his
head knows that

the

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most likely terrorists are going to belong to a certain
race, religion

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ethnicity....

McVeigh - US resident adult male, white, Irish name,
terrorist. Dolan - US resident adult male, (presumably)
white, Irish name, terrorist?

Good Grief! McVeigh was a lone wolf type terrorist and
no threat to the nation. He was on the level of a
common criminal.

Your follow up attempt at wit is too lame for comment.
However, put me in charge and I absolutely will terrorize
the hell out of these Muslim [censored] to the point that they
would wish they had never been born. A few atom bombs
dropped on their heads here and there would do wonders for
the peace and order of the world. They want to die for Allah
- I would help them die with a vengeance.

The only funny part of your post is the reference to me
being presumably white. As always, Mr.Tom being politically
correct to the point of stupidity. Only a liberal is capable
of this level of dumbness.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Tom Sherman said:

Mr.Ed Dolan said:

...That is why liberals and other politically
correct types think it is just fine to search little
old white Christian grandmothers

before

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allowing them to board an airplane at one of our
airports and they

do

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not want any profiling done when of course anyone
with a brain in

his

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head knows that the most likely terrorists are going
to belong to a certain race, religion and
ethnicity....

McVeigh - US resident adult male, white, Irish name,
terrorist.

Dolan -

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US resident adult male, (presumably) white, Irish
name, terrorist?
--
Tom Sherman - Quad City Area

Whats the real story with McVeigh? Here is a guy we
should have kept around just to torture until he spilled
his guts. He was an enemy agent for the Islamic Jew
haters.

Wrap your mind around that one Mr. Tom - why don't you? I am
anxiously waiting to hear what you have to say about all of
this business about how the Arabs hate the Jews and how
McVeigh may have been in their employ. It will give you
something to do for a couple of hours instead of flailing
away at me.

But no, Mr. Tom and his liberal ilk, ever into political
correctness, think it is only just and proper that we search
little old white Christian grandmothers at the airports and
let the tawny skinned Middle Eastern [censored] types with
towels on their heads and wearing sheets through and not
search them. I mean after all, we wouldn't want to offend
anyone would we? Even if it means we get blown high sky at
30,000 feet!

Does anyone on this newsgroup have even a glimmer of an idea
of the contempt with which I hold these always politically
correct treasonous liberals?

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan said:

I find it hard to believe that anything could be going
on at BROL other than liberal platitudes as I know
that is what
Mr. Ball lives on. Does he not moderate the site? Well, I
will stay here as there is always something that seems
to need my attention.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Bryan of brol is only 28 years old, as to that I give
him a little slack if he be to the left in his
politics. If in another 28 years he is still a liberal
than I would feel he had learned nothing in life.
Bryan hates to moderate and has said so many
times.That is why he doesn't like to discuss politics
as it would take way too much of his time. But when
the cat is away the mice do play.

That is funny nget! Mr. Ball, the last time I had the
misfortune to encounter him here on ARBR, thought it was
just fine that so many on this newsgroup were liberal hate
mongers and Bush bashers. When I pointed out to him that
this was hardly fair, he countered that most recumbent
cyclists on ARBR were liberals and if I didn't like it I
could just leave. We have never gotten along worth a damn
ever since.

The essence of a good moderator is fairness. I would myself
not be a good moderator because I am death on liberals. But
I had thought that Mr. Ball was not going to permit anything
on his site that was off topic, which of course politics
clearly is. I think he is learning the hard way that it is
not easy to control human behavior.

By the way, most of the flaming liberals here on ARBR have
not seen 28 in 30 years and so there is no excuse for them
being that way due to their age. I too make allowances for
youth, but by the tiime you are 40 you should know better.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

nget who? said:

... Whats the real story with McVeigh?Here is a guy we
should have kept around just to torture until he spilled
his guts.He was an enemy agent for the Islamic Jew
haters.

Only right-wing, Arab and Muslim hating conspiracy freaks
believe any of the above. It is a "no-brainer" that McVeigh
blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in
retaliation for the excessive use of force by Federal agents
against David Koresh and company in the Branch Davidian
compound near Waco Texas.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Mr. Ed said:

... The only funny part of your post is the reference to
me being presumably white....

So Mr. Ed, you are saying that you are a horse of a
different color?

Wilbur

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Originally posted by Tom Sherman

Bnget who? said:

... Whats the real story with McVeigh?Here is a guy we
should have kept around just to torture until he spilled
his guts.He was an enemy agent for the Islamic Jew
haters.

Only right-wing, Arab and Muslim hating conspiracy freaks
believe any of the above. It is a "no-brainer" that McVeigh
blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in
retaliation for the excessive use of force by Federal agents
against David Koresh and company in the Branch Davidian
compound near Waco Texas.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area [/B]

You call him a terrorist but to me that implies that he had someone who supported him. You maybe right that he acted on his own without outside Arab help .I call him a babykiller, a disgrace to human skin.He should have been tortured just so we could have been sure that there was no outside help given to him. He died to easy and the look on that guys face before he died will always be with me.I also remember watching the tv when Lee Harvey Oswald,when asked if he killed the president, said "no,I was just the patsy."

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nget who? said:

... Whats the real story with McVeigh?Here is a guy we
should have kept around just to torture until he
spilled his guts.He was an enemy agent for the Islamic
Jew haters.

Only right-wing, Arab and Muslim hating conspiracy freaks
believe any of the above. It is a "no-brainer" that
McVeigh blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma
City in retaliation for the excessive use of force by
Federal agents against David Koresh and company in the
Branch Davidian compound near Waco Texas.

Only left-wing conspiracy nuts and screwballs believe too
much force was used in Waco,Texas. Hell, if they hadn't
fooled around with those freaks as much as they did, it
probably could have been resolved without any bloodshed
whatsoever. But Koresh was a nut case and was the one
directly responsible for the deaths of all those simple,
foolish people. Kind of like Jim Jones that way.

Mr. Tom should get himself over to Iraq or any other Arab
and Muslim country and see how they treat him. He will
quickly learn to hate them. But he is so stupid that he
would get himself slaughtered like Nick Berg. Then we
here back in the States could ride our bikes for peace
and Mr. Tom could be a martyr to the cause of total
insanity (liberal variety).

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

nget who? said:

You call him [McVeigh] a terrorist but to me that implies
that he had someone who supported him....

A terrorist is anyone who commits violence against civilians
in an attempt to further a political agenda. No where is
there a requirement that any particular terrorist have
others supporting his/her goals or providing material
assistance.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Originally posted by Tom Sherman

Bnget who? said:

You call him [McVeigh] a terrorist but to me that implies
that he had someone who supported him....

A terrorist is anyone who commits violence against civilians
in an attempt to further a political agenda. No where is
there a requirement that any particular terrorist have
others supporting his/her goals or providing material
assistance.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area [/B]

I do believe that most all Islamic terrorists have others supporting them either with money or materials.Maybe your definition is a little short of the truth.Not a requirement,but surely no man is an Island.

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nget who? said:

You call him [McVeigh] a terrorist but to me that
implies that he had

someone who

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supported him....

A terrorist is anyone who commits violence against
civilians in an attempt to further a political agenda. No
where is there a requirement that any particular terrorist
have others supporting his/her goals or providing material
assistance.

There is your dictionary definition and then there is the
real world definition. McVeigh was a lone wolf mass murderer
and that was all he was. He had no support of any kind
whatsoever and his political agenda, such as it was, was
sheer madness. To equate him with the likes of the Islamic
terrorists by calling them both terrorists is madness on
your part. It means basically that you do not know how to
make discriminations that matter. But that is the very
definition of a wacko liberal like you.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

...McVeigh was a lone wolf mass murderer...

What about Terry Nichols?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Edward Dolan said:

...McVeigh was a lone wolf mass murderer...

What about Terry Nichols?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Edward Dolan said:

...McVeigh was a lone wolf mass murderer...

What about Terry Nichols?

Damnation! Another double click and I am sending a post
with no message. I have got to slow down no matter how
[censored] I get. I liked the old fashion typewriters
better that I grew up with where you could pound the keys
like a hammer and thereby relieve some of your frustration
and anger while writing.

Yes, we all know about his side kick. He should be dead
(executed) by now too. Mr. Sherman is ever the stickler for
details. Those two guys were a couple of blockheads. I would
just barely call them terrorists and I would certainly not
put them into the same category as a group of dedicated mass
murderers (religious zealots) who have engaged thousands of
followers who are willing to turn themselves into human
bombs (Al Qaeda). It is case of comparing apples to oranges.
Two different species of murderers altogether.

I would put Saddam Hussein under extreme torture to get out
of him any and all information that I wanted and then I
would figure out how to execute him about ten times over. I
would do the same to Bin Laden too once we have gotten him.
Western style justice (trials in a court of law) is way too
good for the likes of them. However, maybe the best
execution possible would be to turn them over to the people
in the streets who have suffered under them the way
Mussolini was executed by his own people (partisans) near
the end of WWII. It would do my old heart good to see Saddam
and Usama being strung up and hanging side by side from a
lamp post in Baghdad and being spat upon by all and sundry.
Hey, I can dream can't I?

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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I agree completely!

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Originally posted by Tom Sherman

I agree completely!

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area [/B]

Tom has finally seen the light.Way to go Tom.

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Tom Sherman said:

nget who? said:

You call him [McVeigh] a terrorist but to me that
implies that he

had

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someone who supported him....

A terrorist is anyone who commits violence against
civilians in an attempt to further a political agenda.
No where is there a requirement that any particular
terrorist have others supporting his/her goals or
providing material assistance.
--
Tom Sherman - Quad City Area

I do believe that most all Islamic terrorists have others
supporting them either with money or materials. Maybe
your definition is a little short of the truth. Not a
requirement, but surely no man is an Island.

Also, these Islamic terrorists could not exist without rogue
states harboring and supporting them. We need to go after
those rogues states they same way we would go after any
enemy. That is why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq and that
will be the reason why we may have to go to Syria and Iran
too before we are done with the War on Terrorism.

Sooner or later, we are going to have to rearrange the
Korean peninsula too more to our liking. But it may be
that North Korea will fall of its own accord like the
rotten apple that it is. However, some things can only be
solved by war.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Originally posted by Edward Dolan
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Tom Sherman said:

nget who? said:

You call him [McVeigh] a terrorist but to me that
implies that he

had

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someone who supported him....

A terrorist is anyone who commits violence against
civilians in an attempt to further a political agenda.
No where is there a requirement that any particular
terrorist have others supporting his/her goals or
providing material assistance.
--
Tom Sherman - Quad City Area

I do believe that most all Islamic terrorists have others
supporting them either with money or materials. Maybe
your definition is a little short of the truth. Not a
requirement, but surely no man is an Island.

Also, these Islamic terrorists could not exist without rogue
states harboring and supporting them. We need to go after
those rogues states they same way we would go after any
enemy. That is why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq and that
will be the reason why we may have to go to Syria and Iran
too before we are done with the War on Terrorism.

Sooner or later, we are going to have to rearrange the
Korean peninsula too more to our liking. But it may be
that North Korea will fall of its own accord like the
rotten apple that it is. However, some things can only be
solved by war.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

But Ed you know what the left would say.We need the International community to help so that we are not offending them. And North Korea could be left to starve ,thats what they deserve.I've got to ride my bike today to get some of this out of my system,my bad knee will just have to tag along for the ride.

nget said:

Tom Sherman said:

I agree completely!
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Tom Sherman ?Quad City Area

Tom has finally seen the light.Way to go Tom.

Silence from Mr. Ed is golden.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Also, these Islamic terrorists could not exist without
rogue states harboring and supporting them. We need to
go after those rogues states they same way we would go
after any enemy. That is why we went to Afghanistan
and Iraq and that will be the reason why we may have
to go to Syria and Iran too before we are done with
the War on Terrorism. Sooner or later, we are going to
have to rearrange the Korean

peninsula

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too more to our liking. But it may be that North Korea
will fall of

its

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own accord like the rotten apple that it is. However,
some things can only be solved by war.
--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

But Ed you know what the left would say.We need the
International community to help so that we are not
offending them. And North Korea could be left to starve
,thats what they deserve.I've got to ride my bike today
to get some of this out of my system,my bad knee will
just have to tag along for the ride.

A rogue state like North Korea can be starving its
population to death and still develop atomic bombs and the
means to deliver them. We are now living in the age of
proliferation of atomic weaponry and everything has changed
from what any one has ever known previously because of it.
The liberals have yet to come to grips with this new thing
in world history. It will take a rogue state (or a terrorist
group) setting off these atomic weapons and killing hundreds
of thousands of innocent civilians before they (the
liberals) will come to their senses. Those of us who are
conservatives (neo- or otherwise) worry that it may be too
late by then.

The Bush doctrine of preventive war would save us all from
the above scenario, but I worry that the Bush doctrine is
not really in place because we are not doing much about
North Korea and we should be doing something about that
particular rogue state other than palavering as they may
very well have a nuclear weapon by now. The fatal flaw in
all democracies is that we act too little and too late
because of all our internal debates. 9/11, although it did
not involve atomic weapons, should nevertheless have been a
wake-up call for the country, but it wasn't as witness the
liberal position on all issues effecting national security
and defense. 3,000 dead are not enough. 300,000 will have to
die before the liberals wake-up to the danger.

All of my concerns are focused on the defense of the nation
which is more important to me than anything else under the
sun. We are living in an incredibly evil world. All it takes
for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. The US is
just about the only good nation in the world. If we do not
do what is right, who will? Surely not decadent Europe. The
threat that the Islamic world and rogue states like North
Korea pose to the West is far more serious than most realize
- and the liberals do not even have a clue.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota