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  1. I suggest you try "something like" the Zone diet. It's much
    easier than some of the press it's got, and I'm not even
    suggesting that you count calories, or even worry about the
    glycemic index. Simply try this. Whenever you eat anything---
    meal, snack, etc.---try to ensure that approx. 30% of the
    calories are from fat, 30% are from protein, and 40% are
    carbs. If you buy prepared foods this is tremendously easy,
    if you look at the food label. Take the number of grams of
    protein, and divide by two. If that's aproximately the
    number of grams of fat, you're in the ballpark. Then add the
    number of grams and fat (or, multiply the number of protein
    by 1.5); if that is approximately the number of grams of
    carbs, great! You're looking at a balanced food, go ahead
    and eat it. Aside from that, increasing one's protein intake
    generally aids in loosing weight. But don't do anything
    extreme! And for heaven's sake, stay away from that stupid
    Atkins diet. You need carbs to ride well!

    O.K, other advice. Keep riding your bike, as long as its
    fun, and don't ride so hard that it's not. Ten months
    isn't all that long. If you continue cycling regularly,
    your body will continue to change. Hopefully you're not
    riding just to lose weight. Please ignore your wellness
    expert friend. Sorry, but that's pretty whacky advice
    (IMHO). Yes, the books say that 75% is about right to
    get your body to burn fat. Still, I would attempt to
    ride harder once a week. Do intervals or sprints or
    something, but don't overdo it. Do just enough to
    challenge your body.

    Finally, unfortuneatly, riding is really not an
    excuse/reason to eat more (damn!) The problem is, as
    you ride more, your body learns to operate more
    efficiently, so your caloric intake probably doesn't
    need to vastly increase.

    Hope some of this helps. Keep riding!

    Doug Cook said:

    The story thus far....

    12 years ago - single, 6'3", 180lbs., hair, and competing
    in citizens


    class

    Quoted message said:

    triathlons.

    Fast forward to last July... Married, two kids, mortgage,
    no hair, sedentary, 279lbs.

    Sick of that fat man in the mirror, I bought some
    XXL cycling


    clothes,

    Quoted message said:

    dusted off and tuned up my old Trek, and started riding
    again. Now


    10

    Quoted message said:

    months and close to 3000 miles later... I still weigh 274!
    I mean...


    come

    Quoted message said:

    on! 3000 miles for 5 pounds?!

    My fitness level has increased tremendously. I use to
    struggle on 10


    mile

    Quoted message said:

    rides. Now I do at least 3-4 weekday rides of 15-30 miles
    each and


    one

    Quoted message said:

    weekend ride for 50-70 miles - all solo. My computer puts
    my average


    speed

    Quoted message said:

    for these rides between 16-18mph depending upon the
    particular


    ups&downs of

    Quoted message said:

    the ride. My HRM says my average rate is usually right
    about 75% of


    max

    Quoted message said:

    (although that can vary, usually on the high side, when
    the ride has climbing). I feel lean and mean while I ride,
    but when I get home I


    wonder

    Quoted message said:

    who that fat guy in the mirror is!

    I don't diet per se, but I do eat sensibly. The days
    that I've


    tracked my

    Quoted message said:

    caloric intake it's usually right between 2500 - 3000.
    One friend


    who is a

    Quoted message said:

    "wellness" expert suggests I'm not eating *ENOUGH*.
    Although she


    readily

    Quoted message said:

    admits she doesn't specialize in athletes ("slovenly couch
    potato" is


    how

    Quoted message said:

    she describes her typical client), she says that with my
    activity


    level my

    Quoted message said:

    BMR is 5300... as she explained it that's the number of
    calories


    needed to

    Quoted message said:

    just maintain my weight! Therefore she thinks my body
    thinks it's


    being

    Quoted message said:

    starved and refuses to let go of the fat. She thinks by
    eating MORE


    the

    Quoted message said:

    body will move away from this starvation reflex and start
    shedding


    pounds.

    Quoted message said:

    She also suggested riding easy first thing in the
    morning BEFORE


    breakfast

    Quoted message said:

    so the body has to switch to fat because the glycogen
    stores will be


    low

    Quoted message said:

    (sound like a recipe for the BONK to me).

    Well, I tried to eat 4000 calories today and about
    died! I felt


    horrible,

    Quoted message said:

    stuffed, tired, etc. I tried riding with just water
    (no sport


    drink), and

    Quoted message said:

    found myself craving sugar after the ride.

    Any experts lurking out there that would like to comment?
    Are there


    any

    Quoted message said:

    coaching services online that could help customize my
    training to


    help me

    Quoted message said:

    lose weight? I can't afford to hire a coach.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I suggest you try "something like" the Zone diet. It's much
    easier than some of the press it's got, and I'm not even
    suggesting that you count calories, or even worry about the
    glycemic index. Simply try this. Whenever you eat anything---
    meal, snack, etc.---try to ensure that approx. 30% of the
    calories are from fat, 30% are from protein, and 40% are
    carbs. If you buy prepared foods this is tremendously easy,
    if you look at the food label. Take the number of grams of
    protein, and divide by two. If that's aproximately the
    number of grams of fat, you're in the ballpark. Then add
    the number of grams and fat (or, multiply the number of
    protein by 1.5); if that is approximately the number of
    grams of carbs, great! You're looking at a balanced food,
    go ahead and eat it. Aside from that, increasing one's
    protein intake generally aids in loosing weight. But don't
    do anything extreme! And

    Here you need to add more duct tape. All that loose weight
    can really clank around. ;->

    Quoted message said:

    for heaven's sake, stay away from that stupid Atkins diet.
    You need carbs to ride well!

    The Zone diet can actually work. I have a couple friends who
    use it and they look pretty good, but it's a rather steep
    learning curve. If you have a friend who is doing it and
    will help you, it's not bad.

    Unfortunately the Zone diet fans may not know why it's
    working, may not understand the mechanics behind it and are
    lost without their books and charts and tables.

    A big plus is that it's one of those diets that don't seem
    to have a potential for rebound, but you have to manufacture
    your own motivation, and can't be a comfort eater, or go
    much off plan. Many Atkins users who are into details can
    move over to Zone. Some find it tedious, but it's not bad.

    Whatever works for you. Decent first para, man.

    -B

    Quoted message said:


    O.K, other advice. Keep riding your bike, as long as its
    fun, and don't ride so hard that it's not. Ten months
    isn't all that long. If you continue cycling regularly,
    your body will continue to change. Hopefully you're not
    riding just to lose weight. Please ignore your wellness
    expert friend. Sorry, but that's pretty whacky advice
    (IMHO). Yes, the books say that 75% is about right to
    get your body to burn fat. Still, I would attempt to
    ride harder once a week. Do intervals or sprints or
    something, but don't overdo it. Do just enough to
    challenge your body.

    Finally, unfortuneatly, riding is really not an
    excuse/reason to eat more (damn!) The problem is, as you
    ride more, your body learns to operate more efficiently, so
    your caloric intake probably doesn't need to vastly
    increase.

    Hope some of this helps. Keep riding!

    Doug Cook said:

    The story thus far....

    12 years ago - single, 6'3", 180lbs., hair, and competing
    in citizens


    class

    Quoted message said:

    triathlons.

    Fast forward to last July... Married, two kids, mortgage,
    no hair, sedentary, 279lbs.

    Sick of that fat man in the mirror, I bought some XXL
    cycling


    clothes,

    Quoted message said:

    dusted off and tuned up my old Trek, and started riding
    again. Now


    10

    Quoted message said:

    months and close to 3000 miles later... I still weigh
    274! I mean...


    come

    Quoted message said:

    on! 3000 miles for 5 pounds?!

    My fitness level has increased tremendously. I use to
    struggle on 10


    mile

    Quoted message said:

    rides. Now I do at least 3-4 weekday rides of 15-30 miles
    each and


    one

    Quoted message said:

    weekend ride for 50-70 miles - all solo. My computer puts
    my average


    speed

    Quoted message said:

    for these rides between 16-18mph depending upon the
    particular


    ups&downs of

    Quoted message said:

    the ride. My HRM says my average rate is usually right
    about 75% of


    max

    Quoted message said:

    (although that can vary, usually on the high side, when
    the ride has climbing). I feel lean and mean while I
    ride, but when I get home I


    wonder

    Quoted message said:

    who that fat guy in the mirror is!

    I don't diet per se, but I do eat sensibly. The days
    that I've


    tracked my

    Quoted message said:

    caloric intake it's usually right between 2500 - 3000.
    One friend


    who is a

    Quoted message said:

    "wellness" expert suggests I'm not eating *ENOUGH*.
    Although she


    readily

    Quoted message said:

    admits she doesn't specialize in athletes ("slovenly
    couch potato" is


    how

    Quoted message said:

    she describes her typical client), she says that with my
    activity


    level my

    Quoted message said:

    BMR is 5300... as she explained it that's the number of
    calories


    needed to

    Quoted message said:

    just maintain my weight! Therefore she thinks my body
    thinks it's


    being

    Quoted message said:

    starved and refuses to let go of the fat. She thinks by
    eating MORE


    the

    Quoted message said:

    body will move away from this starvation reflex and start
    shedding


    pounds.

    Quoted message said:

    She also suggested riding easy first thing in the
    morning BEFORE


    breakfast

    Quoted message said:

    so the body has to switch to fat because the glycogen
    stores will be


    low

    Quoted message said:

    (sound like a recipe for the BONK to me).

    Well, I tried to eat 4000 calories today and about
    died! I felt


    horrible,

    Quoted message said:

    stuffed, tired, etc. I tried riding with just water
    (no sport


    drink), and

    Quoted message said:

    found myself craving sugar after the ride.

    Any experts lurking out there that would like to comment?
    Are there


    any

    Quoted message said:

    coaching services online that could help customize my
    training to


    help me

    Quoted message said:

    lose weight? I can't afford to hire a coach.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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