BROL Down?

This has happened a couple of times recently. I imagine
Brian will have to start charging for access to his site.

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Just tried to hit the BROL site and got the messahe
below. bill g "This domain name has been suspended for
exceeding the monthly bandwidth quota. The site will
be automatically turned on again on the first day of
next month.

TC Hazzard said:

This has happened a couple of times recently. I imagine
Brian will have to start charging for access to his site.

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Just tried to hit the BROL site and got the messahe
below. bill g "This domain name has been suspended for
exceeding the monthly bandwidth quota. The site will
be automatically turned on again on the first day of
next month.

I'm not speaking for Bryan on this matter, but I wouldn't
jump to such a conclusion based just on this event. The
server/ISP was changed recently, and apparently there
were some "automatic" shut-off systems if the daily
traffic went beyond a certain point, as well as the
monthly. The daily "switch" was dealt with, and so will
this one. On the message board, it is pointed out that
they just need to wait until the actual office of the
provider opens, which will be (if I remember correctly)
noon, Eastern Standard Time. If anything, this shows just
how popular 'Bentrider Online has become.

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Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

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Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May,
yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly
after noon.

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Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May,
yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly
after noon.

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not
want all those jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back
here. It is good riddance to the lot of them. They can't
take controversy and were the biggest bunch of cry babies
and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Larry Varney <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May,
yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly
after noon.

6 am EST 19 May: I still get the message. I have tried
"refresh". Any idea how to get it back?

Edward Dolan said:

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Larry Varney said:

john riley wrote:

>Hmmm.... coming up on two days.
>
>(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May,
yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly
after noon.

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not
want all those jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back
here. It is good riddance to the lot of them. They can't
take controversy and were the biggest bunch of cry babies
and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I
do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that
caused them to leave - it was more the constant, petty
bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and religious
intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along
with the vulgar remarks and name-calling that even a
child would be ashamed to use - that's what drove most
people away.

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Thank you.

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| I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I
| do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that
| caused them to leave - it was more the constant, petty
| bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and
| religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be
| the norm on this board. That's what drove them away.
| That, along with the vulgar remarks and name-calling
| that even a child would be ashamed to use - that's what
| drove most people away.
|
|
| --
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|

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Edward Dolan said:

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not
want all those jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back
here. It is good riddance to

the

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lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the
biggest bunch of

cry

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babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune
to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I
do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that
caused them to leave - it was more the constant, petty
bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and
religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be
the norm on this board. That's what drove them away.
That, along with the vulgar remarks and name-calling
that even a child would be ashamed to use - that's what
drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am assuming
an adult group here and cry baby children can go elsewhere.
I understand on BROL all messages have to past muster with a
moderator. That is fine for children as they need
moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call Bush
and conservatives every name in the book, and when I
returned the favor they took offense. I am glad they are
gone and may they never come back. The group is a much
better place without them. They were nothing but liberal
hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Thank you.

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| I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but
| I do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy"
| that caused them to leave - it was more the constant,
| petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and
| religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to
| be the norm on this board. That's what drove them
| away. That, along with the vulgar remarks and name-
| calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
| that's what drove most people away.

Why do all the idiots top post?

But the amen chorus is always welcome here on ARBR where
they can post their assents to one idiocy after another. Mr.
Varney would no doubt like to have his own web site where he
could control what gets said and what doesn't get said. Why
the hell doesn't he (and you too Doug Huffman) stay on BROL
where you belong. There you can be supervised like children
and not have to abide the likes of me.

These types of people are profoundly anti-democratic and are
nothing but frustrated dictators and tyrants who would like
to control the rest of us. But I am here to deny them that
pleasure and to defend freedom of speech unmediated by the
likes of Varney. Thank God for Usenet and ARBR! And screw
BROL all the way to hell and back!

These g.d. liberals can post their obscenities on BROL all
they want because
Mr. Ball is sympathetic to their cause but as long as I am
on ARBR that sort of rot will not go unchallenged here.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

...I understand on BROL all messages have to past muster
with a moderator....

That is not strictly true. In a truly moderated newsgroup,
message board, or listserve, messages are not posted until
approved by a moderator (similar to writing a letter to a
newspaper or magazine and having the editor approve it for
publication). This type of moderation is rare on the
Internet due to the workload involved.

On the BROL message boards, messages are not pre-
approved, but actions such as "locking" threads,
suspending posting privileges, and deleting threads or
postings occur after the fact.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

"Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Edward Dolan said:

...I understand on BROL all messages have to past muster
with a

moderator....

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That is not strictly true. In a truly moderated newsgroup,
message board, or listserve, messages are not posted until
approved by a moderator (similar to writing a letter to a
newspaper or magazine and having the editor approve it for
publication). This type of moderation is rare on the
Internet due to the workload involved.

On the BROL message boards, messages are not pre-approved,
but actions such as "locking" threads, suspending posting
privileges, and deleting threads or postings occur after
the fact.

Mr. Sherman is the expert on all of this as far as I am
concerned and so I stand corrected.

In other words, Mr. Ball, whose web site (bulletin board) it
is, can decide after the fact whether or not to bar anyone
from further posts. This seems fair to me and I have no
objection to it. Hell, if I was running my own message
board, that is the way I would do it too. Still, I sometimes
wonder how long I would last on BROL.

But bulletin boards do not interest me. I like the give and
play of argument to and fro in more or less real time. That
is the best way in the world to learn anything - provided
that everyone posting is not an idiot. If someone is
committed to a position passionately and is willing to argue
it, I can respect that no matter how much I might disagree.
And if I didn't respect all those with whom I am
disagreeing, I would be long gone from ARBR.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Edward Dolan said:

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not
want all those jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back
here. It is good riddance to

the

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lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the
biggest bunch of

cry

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babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I
do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that
caused them to leave - it was more the constant, petty
bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and
religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be
the norm on this board. That's what drove them away.
That, along with the vulgar remarks and name-calling
that even a child would be ashamed to use - that's what
drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am
assuming an adult group here and cry baby children can go
elsewhere. I understand on BROL all messages have to past
muster with a moderator. That is fine for children as they
need moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call
Bush and conservatives every name in the book, and when I
returned the favor they took offense. I am glad they are
gone and may they never come back. The group is a much
better place without them. They were nothing but liberal
hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to bad
rubbish!

Give it up, Ed. No one's buying this lame "political"
excuse you keep pulling out of the stable. Insults,
vulgarity and childish behavior are not, sadly,
restricted to just politics. You have regularly insulted
and used words that should rarely come out of the mouth -
or keyboard - of an adult. And you seemingly try to
justify it on some sort of political grounds, some sort
of liberal vs. conservative thing. It's not. It's not
even a freedom of speech issue - everyone knows that, on
an unmoderated newsgroup, you can say just about anything
you want. But does that "freedom" mean you should engage
in such juvenile behavior? No. Much more is expected from
an adult. Continue to pretend that you're something
you're not, Ed. Continue to prattle on about this
"liberal hate monger and Bush basher" nonsense. But
understand this: no one is buying it. Everyone knows that
you, for some perverse reason, love to be crude,
obnoxious and the most pathetic boor possible. Just why
is anyone's guess. Take responsibility for your own
actions, and don't keep claiming it's all because of
something that someone else said. But if you want to say
it's because you're a Bush Republican, that somehow what
you're doing is a reflection of what Bush and his
supporters believe and are like, feel free to continue
doing so. I would guess that the Democrats just wish you
had a bigger sandbox.

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Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

>That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would
>not want all those jackasses who have fled ARBR to come
>back here. It is good riddance to

the

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>lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the
>biggest bunch of

cry

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>babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to
>know.
>

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but
I do think you're mistaken. It's not "controversy"
that caused them to leave - it was more the constant,
petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic and
religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to
be the norm on this board. That's what drove them
away. That, along with the vulgar remarks and name-
calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am
assuming an adult

group

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here and cry baby children can go elsewhere. I
understand on BROL all messages have to past muster with
a moderator. That is fine for children

as

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they need moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call
Bush and conservatives every name in the book, and when
I returned the favor they took offense. I am glad they
are gone and may they never come back. The group is a
much better place without them. They were nothing but
liberal hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to
bad rubbish!

Give it up, Ed. No one's buying this lame "political"
excuse you keep pulling out of the stable. Insults,
vulgarity and childish behavior are not, sadly,
restricted to just politics. You have regularly
insulted and used words that should rarely come out of
the mouth - or keyboard - of an adult.

Some are altogether too ready to take offense when none is
intended. These types are ever my delight to tease and
annoy. Who do they think they are anyway that they can take
offense at anything they please. It is all nothing but
hypocrisy, but I have their number and I know who they all
are by now.

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And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of
political grounds, some sort of liberal vs.
conservative thing. It's not. It's not even a freedom
of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an
unmoderated newsgroup, you can say just about anything
you want. But does that "freedom" mean you should
engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much more is
expected from an adult.

You are confusing style with content. That is ever the
mistake of those who do not know how to read for content.
But I am adamant and will not give in to those who want to
be flattered and appeased. To this very day I go back and
review those odious liberal posts from over a year ago and I
am empowered to carry on in my crusade to cleanse this
newsgroup of all such obscenities no matter what it takes. I
am a knight errant, like Don Quixote, who goes forth to do
battle with nefarious scoundrels.

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Continue to pretend that you're something you're not,
Ed. Continue to prattle on about this "liberal hate
monger and Bush basher" nonsense. But understand this:
no one is buying it. Everyone knows that you, for some
perverse reason, love to be crude, obnoxious and the
most pathetic boor possible. Just why is anyone's
guess. Take responsibility for your own actions, and
don't keep claiming it's all because of something that
someone else said.

See my paragraph immediately above.

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But if you want to say it's because you're a Bush
Republican, that somehow what you're doing is a
reflection of what Bush and his supporters believe and
are like, feel free to continue doing so. I would guess
that the Democrats just wish you had a bigger sandbox.

I only want things to be fair and balanced here on ARBR. It
is apparent to me from long experience that most on this
newsgroup are liberal nuts and screwballs, and so I have my
work cut out for me. The sane and sensible folks on this
newsgroup I can count on the fingers of one hand.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:. Still, I sometimes wonder

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how long I would last on BROL.

Shoot Ed, given some of nonsense in the gas topic on BROL,
I thought maybe you were _already_ there ... under a
different name. ;-)

"john riley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:.
Still, I sometimes

wonder

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how long I would last on BROL.

Shoot Ed, given some of nonsense in the gas topic on BROL,
I thought maybe you were _already_ there ... under a
different name. ;-)

I would most likely get embroiled in argument where ever I
would go. So I will confine my activity to ARBR. It is
enough and more than keeps me occupied. I do not know how
some can mange to be on more than one newsgroup at a time.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of
political grounds, some sort of liberal vs.
conservative thing. It's not. It's not even a freedom
of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an
unmoderated newsgroup, you can say just about anything
you want. But does that "freedom" mean you should
engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much more is
expected from an adult.

Mr. Ball has stated previously on this forum that he did not
see anything wrong with all the liberal hate mongering
and Bush bashing that went on here before I showed up. I
am assuming that that is the way he runs BROL. I have
never looked at BROL nor do I ever intend to because of
his liberal biases and prejudiced viewpoints. He can not
possibly be fair and balanced. I have no doubt
whatsoever that one cannot say what ever one wants on a
moderated newsgroup. Mr. Ball will be there to exclude
you if he does not like either the substance or the
style of what he hears. Moderated newsgroups are for
children and juveniles.

You say it is not a freedom of speech issue. It most
certainly is! Why should I tip-toe around issues with polite
language when others were calling Bush a [censored] and a
[censored]? Screw that! If you call Bush a [censored], then I am
going to call you a [censored] too and I will leave poor
Senator Kerry out of it. Where the hell were you when all
this was going on over a year ago? Like all liberals you
were permanently out to lunch when what you were hearing was
music to your ears. If you want to know what you liberals
looked like to me back then, think Michael Moore and you
have got it. What piece of scurrilous scum he is!

ARBR is a much better place than it was a year ago largely
because I do not let these liberals rule here like they used
to. I do not interfere with the recumbent on topic posting,
but I am constantly cruising this forum like a shark for any
off topic posting which I regard as beyond the fringe.

Instead of deploring what I do, you should be grateful that
I am keeping the ocean of ARBR cleansed of pollutants and
dead, rotting organic matter. I should be getting awards and
being acclaimed for performing well beyond the human norm.
But no man is a profit in his own country. I will only be
missed when I am no longer here and the group has reverted
to the pig sty from which I rescued it.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of
political grounds, some sort of liberal vs.
conservative thing. It's not. It's not even a freedom
of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an
unmoderated newsgroup, you can say just about anything
you want. But does that "freedom" mean you should
engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much more is
expected from an adult.

Mr. Ball has stated previously on this forum that he did
not see anything wrong with all the liberal hate
mongering and Bush bashing that went on here before I
showed up.

In actuality, this is untrue. Mr. Ball stated no
such thing.

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You say it is not a freedom of speech issue. It most
certainly is!

No, it is not. It is a matter of civility. It is one
thing to disagree, it is another to be disagreeable.

Why

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should I tip-toe around issues with polite language when
others were calling Bush a [censored] and a [censored]? Screw
that! If you call Bush a [censored], then I am going to
call you a [censored] too and I will leave poor Senator
Kerry out of it.

So someone thinks Bush is a [censored] - so what? Why do you
feel the
need to then claim that *they* are [censored] as well? And
how does this

of "polite language", so much as an excuse to be uncivilized
and vulgar.

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ARBR is a much better place than it was a year ago largely
because I do not let these liberals rule here like they
used to.

No one is buying this "liberal" vs. "conservative"
excuse. Unless, of course, you believe it is a hallmark
of conservatism to attack someone's race, religion or
ethnic background.

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But no man is a profit in his own country. I will only be
missed when I am no longer here and the group has reverted
to the pig sty from which I rescued it.

You may be right on both counts. I suspect that the group
will revert to the "pig sty" of relative civility when
you are gone.

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