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Ping Sheldon -- Need cookware help

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  1. Sheldon...could you post the name of that cookware vendor
    you recommended not too long ago?

    I'm currently working with a really old, beat up, no-name
    aluminum saute pan that I've had since my college days. It
    doesn't perform all that well (the bottom is warping, and
    the pan has always had hot spots).

    So, I'm looking to upgrade to a decent saute pan. In
    addition, I'll probably be adding a couple of sauce pans and
    a fry pan as well.

    I'm looking at stainless steel, because I plan on going to
    an induction system someday. All-Clad seems to be a popular
    favorite, and it is certainly well-advertised. But I seem to
    recall you posting the name of another vendor not too long
    ago that was really good...better-built than All-Clad
    Stainless.

    I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent
    messages from you (within the past few weeks or months) on
    cookware. (Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.) However, I
    found several that you had posted over a year ago mentioning
    Piazza...was that the vendor?

    Thanks in advance for your help. I don't mind spending
    money on great cookware, but I want really high-quality
    stuff for my money.

    -Dennis Spexet, [email hidden]

  2. Quoted message said:

    I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent
    messages from you (within the past few weeks or months) on
    cookware. (Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.) However,
    I found several that you had posted over a year ago
    mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?

    Thanks in advance for your help. I don't mind spending
    money on great cookware, but I want really high-quality
    stuff for my money.

    -Dennis Spexet

    Search <piazza cookware>

    ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move
    UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
    *********
    "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without
    tribulation." Sheldon ````````````

  3. Dennis Spexet said:

    I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent
    messages from you (within the past few weeks or months) on
    cookware. (Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.) However,
    I found several that you had posted over a year ago
    mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?

    Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to
    cost you more than that All-Clad... Williams Sonoma is
    running an incredible deal on these two items (both of
    which I own)...

    tinyurl.comytesl

    Piazza goes by the name "Signature Select" in the states
    for some reason... and is targeted to professional
    kitchens... try here

    tinyurl.com29747

    ~john

    --
    "Black holes are where God divided by Zero." - Steven Wright

  4. "Levelwave©" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dennis Spexet said:

    I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent
    messages from


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (within the past few weeks or months) on cookware.
    (Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.) However, I found
    several that you had posted over a


    year

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?

    Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to
    cost you more than that All-Clad... Williams Sonoma is
    running an incredible deal on these two items (both of
    which I own)...

    tinyurl.comytesl

    Piazza goes by the name "Signature Select" in the states
    for some reason... and is targeted to professional
    kitchens... try here

    tinyurl.com29747

    I saw that too...apparently, Piazza is also marketed here in
    the U.S. as Dura-Ware Signature Select, for commercial use.

    Unfortunately, the www.piazza.it website is "under
    construction", so all I have to go on are the
    descriptions from the different vendors that sell the
    brand. It looks like beautiful stuff (judging from the
    little thumbnail pictures each vendor has), but I'm
    wondering how it's different from the other high-end
    vendors like All-Clad. Is the aluminum in the base
    thicker or something? Do you get heavier or better
    construction? (It certainly looks like it.)

    I'll browse through some of Sheldon's old messages to see
    why he raves about
    it.

    That brazier and stockpot at W-S definitely look like great
    deals. Time to put in an order, and see how they turn out.

    -Dennis Spexet, [email hidden]

  5. "Levelwave©" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dennis Spexet said:

    I tried a google news search, but I couldn't find recent
    messages from


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (within the past few weeks or months) on cookware.
    (Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.) However, I found
    several that you had posted over a


    year

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ago mentioning Piazza...was that the vendor?

    Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to
    cost you more than that All-Clad... Williams Sonoma is
    running an incredible deal on these two items (both of
    which I own)...

    tinyurl.comytesl

    Piazza goes by the name "Signature Select" in the states
    for some reason... and is targeted to professional
    kitchens... try here

    tinyurl.com29747

    I saw that too...apparently, Piazza is also marketed here in
    the U.S. as Dura-Ware Signature Select, for commercial use.

    Unfortunately, the www.piazza.it website is "under
    construction", so all I have to go on are the
    descriptions from the different vendors that sell the
    brand. It looks like beautiful stuff (judging from the
    little thumbnail pictures each vendor has), but I'm
    wondering how it's different from the other high-end
    vendors like All-Clad. Is the aluminum in the base
    thicker or something? Do you get heavier or better
    construction? (It certainly looks like it.)

    I'll browse through some of Sheldon's old messages to see
    why he raves about
    it.

    That brazier and stockpot at W-S definitely look like great
    deals. Time to put in an order, and see how they turn out.

    -Dennis Spexet, [email hidden]

  6. Quoted message said:

    Piazza cookware is of VERY good quality but it's going to
    cost you more than that All-Clad...

    ~john

    Nonsense... All-[censored] costs about three times the price and
    everything about PIAZZA is three times better.

    The Williams-Sonoma pieces are an excellent deal (new old
    stock), and are made slightly different from the ones sold
    at other websites, they're heavier weight and have the
    rolled rim edge.... last year they featured the 18qt stock
    pot at $70... indespensible for preparing my tomato
    sauce... I have every piece ever offered by W-S. Just look
    at the ridiculous prices All-[censored] charges for their large
    stockpots... and PIAZZAs are true stock pots, All-[censored] is
    a sauce pot and its itty bitty handles placed right at the
    extreme top rim are not only useless, they make the pot
    dangerous for pouring. Btw, modern spot welding is far
    superiour to rivets. If you're into the retro look and
    name dropping buy All-[censored]... if you want highly
    functional design and superiour quality at reasonable
    prices buy PIAZZA.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move
    UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
    *********
    "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without
    tribulation." Sheldon ````````````

  7. Dennis Spexet said:

    but I'm wondering how it's different from the other high-
    end vendors like All-Clad. Is the aluminum in the base
    thicker or something? Do you get heavier or better
    construction? (It certainly looks like it.)

    Piazza has spot-wielded handles whereas All-Clad has
    stainless rivets... Piazza does not have the triple-ply
    construction of the All-Clad but it does have a thick
    aluminum bottom which holds heat better than the All-clad...
    I'm not 100% convinced that tri-ply clad is not a gimmick...
    they both cook well but if I was going to pick purely on
    aesthetics I'd pick the Piazza any day... not as shiny (if
    that's what your looking for) but it definitely looks more
    elegant...

    Quoted message said:

    That brazier and stockpot at W-S definitely look like
    great deals. Time to put in an order, and see how they
    turn out.

    Do you really need an 11qt stockpot? The Brazier is
    definitely a must have - from stove to table...

    ~john

    --
    "Black holes are where God divided by Zero." - Steven Wright

  8. "Levelwave©" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Do you really need an 11qt stockpot? The Brazier is
    definitely a must have - from stove to table...

    It looks like someone beat me to the stockpots! I just went
    to the W-S website to put in my order, and the stockpots
    were gone.

    No big deal for now. I'm currently using a 12qt Tramontina
    stockpot that I picked up at a Walmart for $25 on sale. It
    doesn't have the fanciest construction in the world.
    However, the base is reasonably heavy, and the price wasn't
    bad. For making stocks and boiling water, it has worked out
    OK for me.

    Fortunately, W-S still had the Piazza braziers. I just put
    in my order!

    Now it's just a matter of waiting.

    -Dennis Spexet, [email hidden]

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