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  1. What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find out .
    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the cause
    of a disease. They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with the
    body's natural functions, therefore are always harmful even
    though their side effects may not be readily detectable or
    recognized.

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug may provide temporary benefit, but is harmful
    to the body.

    Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the body by
    performing the natural functions for the body, similar to
    the prolonged use of a wheelchair causing atrophy of the
    legs. For example, the use of antibiotics weakens the immune
    system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens the organs
    which produce them.

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs are just as harmful as illegal drugs in
    equivalent dosages.

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to develop.
    Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT
    JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are nonproductive
    in the management of chronic disorders, as drugs and surgery
    are the only available therapies. They frequently results in
    more confusion and frustration for the patient and the
    physician.

    THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    accomplished by strengthening the immunity with natural
    remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic tests only
    provide early detection of catastrophic diseases but do not
    prevent them.

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or for short-term control of acute symptoms.

  2. [censored] stolen from

    drtong.comconventional.html

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find out


    .

    Quoted message said:

    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the cause
    of a disease. They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with the
    body's natural functions, therefore are always harmful
    even though their side effects may not be readily
    detectable or recognized.

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug may provide temporary benefit, but is
    harmful to the body.

    Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the body by
    performing the natural functions for the body, similar to
    the prolonged use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:

    causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use of
    antibiotics weakens


    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens the
    organs which produce them.

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs are just as harmful as illegal drugs in
    equivalent dosages.

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS
    NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    nonproductive in the management of chronic disorders, as
    drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:

    therapies. They frequently results in more confusion and
    frustration for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    patient and the physician.

    THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    accomplished by strengthening the immunity with natural
    remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic tests only
    provide early detection of catastrophic diseases but do
    not prevent them.

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or for short-term control of acute symptoms.

  3. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find out


    .

    Quoted message said:

    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the cause
    of a disease.

    Sometimes so, mostly not, as with any generalisation
    about medicine.

    This is normally a prelude to extremely fanciful theories as
    to the cause of diseases. They are not backed by any
    evidence or even confluct violently with all the available
    evidence. Even homeopaths make such claims, and homeopathy
    is based wholly upon symptoms rather than causes or any
    understanding of pathological processes..

    Quoted message said:

    They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    The thought for you today, Dave, should be: if a cure
    exists, an illness is no longer "chronic"!!.

    Myxoedema (hypothyroidism) is a chronic illness but can be
    terminated by thyroid hormone. One day it will certainly be
    cured by thyroid cell implants, probably grown from the
    patient's stem cells, but only if we stay focussed on real
    science rather than fantasy. Tuberculosis was chronic but
    became curable with antibiotics. Cancer is a chronic illness
    but can be cured in fifty per cent of cases.

    Peter Moran

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find out .
    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the cause
    of a disease. They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with the
    body's natural functions, therefore are always harmful even
    though their side effects may not be readily detectable or
    recognized.

    Moronic. The natural course of many diseases is to kill you.
    Rabies, for instance. But, instead, you can go "against
    nature" and get the vaccine. You won't die, but Spammin'
    Dave does not approve, because you did something
    'unnatural." Idiot.

    Quoted message said:

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug may provide temporary benefit, but is
    harmful to the body.

    How sad it is to me that the antibiotics I took cured my
    infections, or that the Accutane I took has kept me free of
    acne for the last 17 years. I'm still waiting for the
    harmful effects to show up.

    Quoted message said:

    For example, the use of antibiotics weakens the immune
    system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens the organs
    which produce them.

    This claim about antibiotics is common. And stupid, and I
    know of no evidence that it's true.

    And hormone replacement therapy (estrogen/progesterone,
    at least) is replacing hormones that the body is no
    longer producing. You can't weaken an organ that has
    already shut down.

    Quoted message said:

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs are just as harmful as illegal drugs in
    equivalent dosages.

    A meaningless claim.

    Quoted message said:

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to develop.
    Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT
    JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune system
    damage. Furthermore, many diseases are not caused by a
    "weakened immune system." Type 1 diabetes, if anything, is
    caused by an overactive immune system.

    Quoted message said:

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or for short-term control of acute symptoms.

    No, no, the earlier paragraphs by the same idiot made it
    clear that drugs and surgery are always bad. They can't have
    it both ways.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  5. You should really gain some perspective in the world.

    First your acusation of stealing some words published on the
    internet is assinine

    Second Dr Tong is a M.D. and he is explaining a well known
    reality. You say BS because you are simply an ignorant
    person trying to masquerade as a person who knows something.
    It just hasn't become apparent what that something is.

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [censored] stolen from

    drtong.comconventional.html

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find


    out

    Quoted message said:

    .

    Quoted message said:

    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the
    cause of a disease. They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with the
    body's natural functions, therefore are always harmful
    even though their side effects


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be readily detectable or recognized.

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug may provide temporary benefit, but is
    harmful to the body.

    Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the body
    by performing


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    natural functions for the body, similar to the prolonged
    use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:

    causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use of
    antibiotics weakens


    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens
    the organs which produce them.

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just as harmful as illegal drugs in equivalent dosages.

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence,


    CHRONIC

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE
    OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    nonproductive in the management of chronic disorders, as
    drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:

    therapies. They frequently results in more confusion and
    frustration for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    patient and the physician.

    THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    accomplished by strengthening the immunity with natural
    remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic tests only
    provide early detection of catastrophic diseases


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do not prevent them.

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or for short-term control of acute symptoms.


  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    You should really gain some perspective in the world.

    First your acusation of stealing some words published on
    the internet is assinine

    Good work, Mark! Clearly, you finally got to him with this
    one.

    Quoted message said:

    Second Dr Tong is a M.D. and he is explaining a well known
    reality. You say BS because you are simply an ignorant
    person trying to masquerade as a person who knows
    something.

    The irony of *you* referring to someone else as ignorant is
    really staggering.

    Quoted message said:

    It just hasn't become apparent what that something is.

    What you know is how to steal the words of others and
    pretend they're your own. Oh, right, and you know how to
    sell massively-overpriced ginseng, and lie your ass off. Do
    you have any other skills?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [censored] stolen from

    drtong.comconventional.html

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find


    out

    Quoted message said:

    .

    Quoted message said:

    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the
    cause of a disease. They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with the
    body's natural functions, therefore are always harmful
    even though their side effects


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be readily detectable or recognized.

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug may provide temporary benefit, but is
    harmful to the body.

    Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the body
    by performing


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    natural functions for the body, similar to the
    prolonged use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:

    causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use of
    antibiotics weakens


    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens
    the organs which produce them.

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just as harmful as illegal drugs in equivalent dosages.

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence,


    CHRONIC

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT JUSTIFIED
    BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    nonproductive in the management of chronic disorders,
    as drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:

    therapies. They frequently results in more confusion
    and frustration for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    patient and the physician.

    THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    accomplished by strengthening the immunity with natural
    remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic tests only
    provide early detection of catastrophic diseases


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do not prevent them.

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or for short-term control of acute symptoms.



  7. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You should really gain some perspective in the world.

    First your acusation of stealing some words published on
    the internet is assinine

    No, it is not. It is demonstrative of your honesty when you
    steal others words for your own. You see, at the bottom of
    the page you swiped the words from is this little line:

    "Copyright © 1999 Yee-Wing Tong, M.D. Inc."

    which means that Dr. Tong wants credit for his efforts.

    Quoted message said:

    Second Dr Tong is a M.D. and he is explaining a well known
    reality. You


    say

    Quoted message said:

    BS because you are simply an ignorant person trying to
    masquerade as a person who


    knows

    Quoted message said:

    something. It just hasn't become apparent what that
    something is.

    Of course you would say that, as you have no concept
    of reality.

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [censored] stolen from

    drtong.comconventional.html

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What you should know about health but your doctors are
    afraid to find


    out

    Quoted message said:

    .

    Quoted message said:

    . .

    Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the
    cause of a


    disease.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They do not cure a chronic ailment.

    NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with
    the body's natural functions, therefore are always
    harmful even though their side effects


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be readily detectable or recognized.

    The practice of specialization amplifies this harmful
    effect. A drug


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    provide temporary benefit, but is harmful to the body.

    Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the
    body by performing


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    natural functions for the body, similar to the
    prolonged use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:

    causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use of
    antibiotics


    weakens

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system, and hormone replacement therapy weakens
    the organs


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    produce them.

    Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    Prescription drugs


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just as harmful as illegal drugs in equivalent
    dosages.

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence,


    CHRONIC

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT JUSTIFIED
    BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    nonproductive in the management of chronic disorders,
    as drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:

    therapies. They frequently results in more confusion
    and frustration


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    patient and the physician.

    THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    accomplished by strengthening the immunity with
    natural remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic
    tests only provide early detection of catastrophic
    diseases


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do not prevent them.

    Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in critical
    situations or


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    short-term control of acute symptoms.



  8. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You should really gain some perspective in the world.

    First your acusation of stealing some words published on
    the internet is assinine

    No, it is not. It is demonstrative of your honesty when
    you steal others words for your own. You see, at the
    bottom of the page you swiped the words from is this
    little line:

    "Copyright © 1999 Yee-Wing Tong, M.D. Inc."

    which means that Dr. Tong wants credit for his efforts.

    Quoted message said:

    Second Dr Tong is a M.D. and he is explaining a well
    known reality. You


    say

    Quoted message said:

    BS because you are simply an ignorant person trying to
    masquerade as a person who


    knows

    Quoted message said:

    something. It just hasn't become apparent what that
    something is.

    Of course you would say that, as you have no concept of
    reality.

    This is reality

    Licensed to kill - facts the drug firms conceal
    29.04.2004 By JEREMY LAURANCE The multibillion-dollar
    international pharmaceutical industry has been accused
    of manipulating the results of drug trials for
    financial gain and withholding information that could
    expose patients to possible harm. The stranglehold the
    industry has on research is causing increasing alarm
    in medical circles as evidence emerges of biased
    results, under-reporting and selective publication
    driven by a market worth more than £10 billion ($28.5
    billion) in Britain alone. nzherald.co.nznzherald.co.nz
    storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3563259

    Ya don't need drugs.
    drday.comdrday.com

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    message .-"]news:[email hidden].-
    cv.net...

    Quoted message said:

    [censored] stolen from

    drtong.comconventional.html

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > What you should know about health but your doctors
    > are afraid to find


    out .

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > . .
    >
    > Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than the
    > cause of a


    disease.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > They do not cure a chronic ailment.
    >
    > NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere with
    > the body's natural functions, therefore are always
    > harmful even though their side effects


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > not be readily detectable or recognized.
    >
    > The practice of specialization amplifies this
    > harmful effect. A drug


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > provide temporary benefit, but is harmful to the
    > body.
    >
    > Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the
    > body by performing


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > natural functions for the body, similar to the
    > prolonged use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use of
    > antibiotics


    weakens the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > immune system, and hormone replacement therapy
    > weakens the organs


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > produce them.
    >
    > Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its toxicity.
    > Prescription drugs


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > just as harmful as illegal drugs in equivalent
    > dosages.
    >
    > It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    > develop. Hence,


    CHRONIC

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT JUSTIFIED
    > BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.
    >
    > Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    > nonproductive in the management of chronic
    > disorders, as drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > therapies. They frequently results in more confusion
    > and frustration


    for the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > patient and the physician.
    >
    > THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    > accomplished by strengthening the immunity with
    > natural remedies. Annual check-ups and diagnostic
    > tests only provide early detection of catastrophic
    > diseases


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > do not prevent them.
    >
    > Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in
    > critical situations or


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > short-term control of acute symptoms.
    >
    >
    >
    >


  9. "ex_cathedra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t


    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You should really gain some perspective in the world.

    First your acusation of stealing some words published
    on the internet


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    assinine

    No, it is not. It is demonstrative of your honesty when
    you steal others words for your own. You see, at the
    bottom of the page you swiped the


    words

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from is this little line:

    "Copyright © 1999 Yee-Wing Tong, M.D. Inc."

    which means that Dr. Tong wants credit for his efforts.

    Quoted message said:

    Second Dr Tong is a M.D. and he is explaining a well
    known reality.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    say

    Quoted message said:

    BS because you are simply an ignorant person trying to
    masquerade as a person who


    knows

    Quoted message said:

    something. It just hasn't become apparent what that
    something is.

    Of course you would say that, as you have no concept of
    reality.

    This is reality

    One version of it. Not necessarily the real one, though.

    Quoted message said:


    Licensed to kill - facts the drug firms conceal
    29.04.2004 By JEREMY LAURANCE The multibillion-dollar
    international pharmaceutical industry has been
    accused of manipulating the results of drug trials
    for financial gain and withholding information that
    could expose patients to possible harm. The
    stranglehold the industry has on research is causing
    increasing alarm in medical circles as evidence
    emerges of biased results, under-reporting and
    selective publication driven by a market worth more
    than £10 billion ($28.5 billion) in Britain alone.
    nzherald.co.nzstorydisplay.cfm
    3563259

    Ya don't need drugs.
    drday.comdrday.com

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! you just cited a loon.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 13, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    y.cv.net...
    > [censored] stolen from
    >
    > drtong.comconventional.html
    >
    >
    > "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > bal.com...
    > > What you should know about health but your doctors
    > > are afraid to


    find

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    out .

    Quoted message said:

    > > . .
    > >
    > > Drugs and surgery treat the symptoms rather than
    > > the cause of a


    disease.

    Quoted message said:

    > > They do not cure a chronic ailment.
    > >
    > > NATURE KNOWS BEST. Drugs and surgery interfere
    > > with the body's


    natural

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > functions, therefore are always harmful even
    > > though their side


    effects

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    may

    Quoted message said:

    > > not be readily detectable or recognized.
    > >
    > > The practice of specialization amplifies this
    > > harmful effect. A


    drug

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    may

    Quoted message said:

    > > provide temporary benefit, but is harmful to the
    > > body.
    > >
    > > Besides side effects, drugs and surgery weaken the
    > > body by


    performing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    > > natural functions for the body, similar to the
    > > prolonged use of a


    wheelchair

    Quoted message said:

    > > causing atrophy of the legs. For example, the use
    > > of antibiotics


    weakens the

    Quoted message said:

    > > immune system, and hormone replacement therapy
    > > weakens the organs


    which

    Quoted message said:

    > > produce them.
    > >
    > > Legalizing a chemical does not reduce its
    > > toxicity. Prescription


    drugs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are

    Quoted message said:

    > > just as harmful as illegal drugs in equivalent
    > > dosages.
    > >
    > > It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    > > develop. Hence,


    CHRONIC

    Quoted message said:

    > > USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS NOT JUSTIFIED
    > > BECAUSE OF THE


    IMMUNE

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > DAMAGE IT CAUSES.
    > >
    > > Extensive diagnostic tests and procedures are
    > > nonproductive in the management of chronic
    > > disorders, as drugs and surgery are the only


    available

    Quoted message said:

    > > therapies. They frequently results in more
    > > confusion and


    frustration

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for the

    Quoted message said:

    > > patient and the physician.
    > >
    > > THE BEST MEDICINE IS PREVENTION, which can only be
    > > accomplished by strengthening the immunity with
    > > natural remedies. Annual check-ups


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > diagnostic tests only provide early detection of
    > > catastrophic


    diseases

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but

    Quoted message said:

    > > do not prevent them.
    > >
    > > Drugs and surgery are most often indicated in
    > > critical situations


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for

    Quoted message said:

    > > short-term control of acute symptoms.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >


  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 5/15/2004 3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE IS
    NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune
    system damage.

    The height of stupidity.

    Jan

  11. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 5/15/2004 5:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune
    system damage.

    Quoted message said:

    The height of stupidity.

    Jan

    coming from a retired daycare worker with no education no
    less

    hawki.....

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hawki63 said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies From:
    [email hidden] (Jan) Date: 5/15/2004 5:20 PM Pacific
    Daylight Time Message-id: <20040515202042.09012.00000577@mb-
    m17.aol.com>

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune
    system damage.

    Quoted message said:

    The height of stupidity.

    Jan

    coming from a retired daycare worker with no
    education no less

    I assume Jan was doing her usual inept job of quoting, with
    the wrong number of ">" marks at the start of the line.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 5/15/2004
    3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE
    IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune system
    damage.

    The height of stupidity.

    How so? What he says is absolutely true. There are many
    drugs that do not cause immune system damage. In fact, most
    drugs do not.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 5/15/2004
    3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE
    IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune system
    damage.

    The height of stupidity.

    How so? What he says is absolutely true. There are many
    drugs that do not cause immune system damage. In fact, most
    drugs do not.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Orac said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 5/15/2004
    3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    >It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    >develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE
    >IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT
    >CAUSES.

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune system
    damage.

    The height of stupidity.

    How so? What he says is absolutely true. There are many
    drugs that do not cause immune system damage. In fact, most
    drugs do not.

    Jan didn't like what I said, therefore she prounounced it
    stupid. Truth is irrelevant.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Orac said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Conventional Therapies From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 5/15/2004
    3:50 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    >It is the weakened immunity that allows disease to
    >develop. Hence, CHRONIC USE OF ANY DRUG FOR ANY PURPOSE
    >IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE IMMUNE DAMAGE IT
    >CAUSES.

    Quoted message said:

    Total crapola, and many drugs do not cause immune system
    damage.

    The height of stupidity.

    How so? What he says is absolutely true. There are many
    drugs that do not cause immune system damage. In fact, most
    drugs do not.

    Jan didn't like what I said, therefore she prounounced it
    stupid. Truth is irrelevant.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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