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  1. I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a
    good testimonial when they see one.

    bestzapper.combestzapper.com

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers of
    the skin-tumour thickness not given) melanoma by simple
    surgery. He claims he was advised to also have radiotherapy
    and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded as gross
    overtreatment any present standards and may be an
    exaggeration for effect.

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the
    alternative methods he used after an initial excision-
    biopsy, he developed a local recurrence of melanoma and
    required a further local excision.

    He later developed what sounds like a typical gynaecomastia
    (tender lump directly under the nipple which grew for seven
    months and then subsided), probably from one of the herbs or
    supplements he was taking, but attributes the cure of this
    unbiopsied and almost certainly benign lesion to the
    miracles of Hulda Clark's care.

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers.
    What more do you need to know ?

    Peter Moran

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Zapper testimonial From: "Peter Moran"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/10/2004 5:25 PM Pacific Daylight
    Time Message-id: <40a01d72$0$4420$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
    02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>

    Quoted message said:

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers.
    What more do you need to know ?

    Peter Moran

    them danged little flukes!! hawki.....

  3. In article <40a01d72$0$4420$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
    02.brisbane.pipenetworks.co

    m.au said:

    I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a
    good testimonial when they see one.

    bestzapper.combestzapper.com

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers
    of the skin-tumour thickness not given) melanoma by simple
    surgery. He claims he was advised to also have
    radiotherapy and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded
    as gross overtreatment any present standards and may be an
    exaggeration for effect.

    Indeed. Melanoma is notoriously resistant to radiation and
    chemotherapy. Biological therapy with interferon-alpha is
    the only approved nonsurgical treatment for melanoma.
    Chemotherapy and radiation are usually only given under the
    auspices of clinical trials. In 1987, a full lymph node
    dissection was usually recommended for his melanoma, which
    was intermediate risk for lymph node metastases. Nowadays a
    procedure known as sentinel lymph node biopsy would be done,
    in which dye would be used to identify the one lymph node
    most likely to contain tumor. If that's negative, no lymph
    node dissection is done. If it is positive, a completion
    lymph node dissection is recommended. Most likely, surgery
    alone cured him, as even in intermediate risk melanomas, a
    significant proportion don't have any lymph node metastases.
    If he was node negative, his survival would be expected to
    be quite good.

    Quoted message said:

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the
    alternative methods he used after an initial excision-
    biopsy, he developed a local recurrence of melanoma and
    required a further local excision.

    Not surprising. He probably had too narrow a margin of
    normal tissue around his original excisional biopsy.

    Quoted message said:

    He later developed what sounds like a typical
    gynaecomastia (tender lump directly under the nipple
    which grew for seven months and then subsided),
    probably from one of the herbs or supplements he was
    taking, but attributes the cure of this unbiopsied and
    almost certainly benign lesion to the miracles of Hulda
    Clark's care.

    Herbal supplements are notorious for containing estrogenic
    compounds. PC-SPES, for instance, has activity against
    prostate cancer. The reason, it was discovered, is that it
    contains many naturally occurring estrogen-like compounds.
    Such compounds could easily result in gynecomastia. Without
    a tissue biopsy, it is impossible to tell what it was, but
    it certainly sounds like run-of-the-mill gynecomastia.

    Quoted message said:

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling
    zappers. What more do you need to know ?

    Indeed.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do
    |you inconvenience me with questions?"

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Zapper testimonial From: "Peter Moran"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/10/2004 4:25 PM Pacific Standard
    Time Message-id: <40a01d72$0$4420$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
    02.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>

    I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a
    good testimonial when they see one.

    As usual you suppose wrong. The fact that the man was cured
    of cancer is WHY he is selling the zapper.

    Quoted message said:

    bestzapper.combestzapper.com

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers of
    the skin-tumour thickness not given) melanoma by simple
    surgery. He claims he was advised to also have radiotherapy
    and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded as gross
    overtreatment any present standards and may be an
    exaggeration for effect.

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the
    alternative methods he used after an initial excision-
    biopsy, he developed a local recurrence of melanoma and
    required a further local excision.

    He later developed what sounds like a typical gynaecomastia
    (tender lump directly under the nipple which grew for seven
    months and then subsided), probably from one of the herbs
    or supplements he was taking, but attributes the cure of
    this unbiopsied and almost certainly benign lesion to the
    miracles of Hulda Clark's care.

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers.
    What more do you need to know ?

    Peter Moran

    You need to know the man. A wonderful guy who was the one
    who told me where Dr Frank Jerome was located when I was
    ready to search all over and travel miles to find a good
    alternative dentist.

    Art and I stayed in contact for a few years, he is indeed a
    very good Christian man.

    Secondly, I have posted his website back in 1999, IIRC that
    was before he sold zappers, and you can read his coments.

    Jan

    From: JDrew63929 ([email hidden]) Subject: THANK YOU
    HULDA CLARK This is the only article in this thread View:
    Original Format Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Date:
    1999/05/20

    How I was Healed of Cancer - Twice! Hi! My name is Arthur
    Doerksen, president of A.D.Comtronics & Engineering in
    Langley, British Columbia, Canada. I am not a medical
    practitioner, and do not prescribe or treat. I am simply
    sharing my story and opinions to encourage others to
    consider alternative approaches and to take responsibility
    for their own health. I am a naturally skeptical electronic
    engineer who has had cancer twice (malignant melanoma,
    October/87, and breast tumor April/94), and has very
    successfully used Dr. Clark's low dose herbal approach to
    get rid of the breast tumor - in just three months. I now
    use the Auto-Zap zapper every other day to remain parasite-
    free. My mother's family history was rife with cancer: she
    had five different types of cancer on five different
    occasions. Before she was married she lost her right leg to
    sarcoma in the knee. Her mother and most of her siblings
    died early of cancer. On the other side, my father's father
    was the first recorded victim of pancreatic cancer in the
    province of Manitoba. I thought I definitely had the "cancer
    genes" or predisposition to this dread disease.

    My first cancer developed from a mole on my left shoulder.
    It had been a bit red, but not alarmingly so. I had had many
    moles taken off before, just to be safe, but none had tested
    malignant. When I bumped this one on a machine I was fixing,
    it bled profusely. I went straight to the doctor to have it
    excised. He took it off routinely, but found it was a very
    aggressive malignant melanoma, Clark's level 3. I went to a
    surgeon who recommended a five-inch circular full depth
    excision and dissection of the lymph nodes under my left
    arm, followed by radiation and chemo. When I rejected his
    "cut, burn and poison," he put enormous pressure on my wife,
    Lyn, to persuade me.

    We instead contacted the Cancer Control Society, and began
    intensive research on alternative cancer therapies. Though I
    had been well versed in medical technology and pharmacology,
    a cursory survey of the efficacy of conventional treatments
    showed that "modern medical science" was losing the war on
    cancer at an alarming rate (see the details: click here).
    Alternatives were needed, and we chose to build up my immune
    system rather than let the surgeon have it.

    We committed my health into God's hands in prayer, and I
    began taking ten grams of Vitamin C a day (as sodium
    ascorbate, recommended by Linus Pauling). Lyn moved us to a
    diet of foods "as close as possible to the hand of God",
    free of sugar, processing and preservatives. We also tried
    herbal teas (Essiac and taheebo) and anti-oxidants: vitamins
    A (beta carotene), E, selenium and zinc. At Christmas, 1989,
    I had an excision about two inches in diameter at the
    original site to clear up some things Lyn did not like. The
    pathology showed melanoma, but the margins were clear.
    Nothing came back after that.

    I first noticed the tumor in my left breast in April 1994
    when I felt a sharp pain when I got a hug. I assumed it was
    a bruise, but it did not go away. My wife Lyn checked it and
    found a small lump directly behind the nipple. It grew in
    size and discomfort for seven months till it was about 1.25
    inches across and 0.25 inches thick, and was starting to
    head toward my armpit. I was still taking eight grams of
    vitamin C daily with the other anti-oxidants. Then in
    November 1994, we got Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark's first book,
    The Cure for All Cancers. In the book she gives her theory
    that cancer is caused by a common parasite, the human
    intestinal fluke (fasciolopsis buskii), "catalyzed" by
    isopropyl alcohol accumulated in the liver.

    On November 23, 1994, I began the herbal parasite program,
    and Lyn went through the house clearing out all isopropyl-
    tainted soaps, shampoos, foods, body products, cleaners and
    other solvents. She put four cardboard boxes of the stuff
    outside under our deck. After five days on the parasite
    herbs I noticed that the pain reduced greatly (Dr. Clark
    says the parasites die on the fifth day with the herbs), and
    after two weeks Lyn could feel a noticeable decrease in size
    of the tumor. After three months the tumor was gone!

    On February 22, 1995 Lyn and I spent two full hours with Dr.
    Clark (then at the Manner Clinic in Tijuana) to be tested
    and learn all we could so that we could help others in
    Canada. I tested free of malignancy, but had high mercury
    levels from tooth fillings (Lyn and I have since had all the
    metal removed from our mouths and replaced with a composite
    called Helio-Molar from IvoClar). Dr. Clark told us
    (correctly) that we had a gas leak in our home 1600 miles
    away, because we had high vanadium levels in our bodies. She
    found that in about two seconds: do you know any other test
    that fast, sensitive and cheap? A friend that she tested
    with us was told that she had Freon from a leaking fridge
    (right again!).

    Lyn and I have met Dr. Clark several times, and can assure
    you that she is a very careful scientist who insists on
    controlled, repeatable testing and keeps good records. For
    twenty years she did government-funded research in human
    physiology at the University of Indiana, Bloomington. She
    got into natural methods after her life was saved by a
    natural antiviral potion that killed herpes simplex that had
    reached her eyes and brain (see The Story of L-G, page 411
    in The Cure for HIV and AIDS). The orthodox medical experts
    had just said, "Sorry - it's a virus."

    Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D., is also a humble and
    teachable lady-compare that with your average oncologist! If
    she does not know something she will say so, and add with a
    twinkle, "Why don't you find out?" Dr. Clark did not publish
    until she had 100 theoretically cured cases in December
    1993. She has over a thousand from her own practice now, and
    many more around the world through her books. All her
    "secrets" are published: she wants you to "do it yourself".
    You can contact her through the Self Health Resource Center
    at the address in the back of the books, or by phone at 619-409-
    9500 [619-409-9501 fax]: please be patient, as she gets a
    ton of mail and calls.

    I believe that Hulda Clark's greatest contribution has been
    the linking of parasites with environmental toxins as co-
    factors in the genesis of cancer and many other diseases.
    And this link was discovered by good detective work, using
    the Dermatron and her simple "Syncrometer" tester. Her
    development of the zapper is also a major contribution to
    the war on parasites.

    If you have read this far and it sounds too good to be true,
    please read one of her books before you blast Dr. Clark, her
    methods, or her results. You will be pleasantly surprised if
    you follow her advice. And her methods embody the
    Hippocratic principle: at least do no harm. Compare that
    with the "cut, burn and poison" of the other guys.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Zapper testimonial
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 5/10/2004 8:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    As usual you suppose wrong. The fact that the man was cured
    of cancer is WHY he is selling the zapper.

    snippedity

    naturally Jan the know nothing who "knows" more than Peter
    and Orac ...would "zap" back with such an answer

    perhaps Janster doesn't KNOW about gynecomastia is NOT
    breast cancer....

    and that melanoma WILL go away with surgical excision...

    and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the Hulda
    not a doctor Clark

    hawki.....

  6. << and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the
    Hulda not a doctor Clark

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wow, such talk!! If you are pointing the finger at Jan, who
    might we think you might be a shill for? It is obvious, you
    don't care for alternative medicine....and those that
    support it....perhaps you would be better suited for the a
    hate newsgroup?

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance."
    (Jessie Winchester).

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Zapper testimonial
    From: [email hidden] (DEBBEE1023)
    Date: 5/10/2004 11:15 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    << and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the
    Hulda not a doctor Clark

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wow, such talk!! If you are pointing the finger at Jan, who
    might we think you might be a shill for? It is obvious, you
    don't care for alternative medicine....and those that
    support it....perhaps you would be better suited for the a
    hate newsgroup?

    Yuper a shill 4 shore!!.Have you ever seen a shill who told
    of the many mistakes the company is making??

    Sure thing.

    Jan

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    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you would be better suited for the a hate
    newsgroup?

    Which are your favorites where you post everyday?

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