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    I had a bad coach in basketball and a bad one in baseball.
    Neither was a professional coach.

    martin

  2. Being a "professional" has no bearing on whether the coach
    is an [censored]. I've seen plenty of professional coaches I
    wouldn't have my kid anywhere near.

    I've done some youth coaching in various sports...I'm fine
    for low level sports where the teaching is on gross
    skills. As the skills increase and become more refined,
    Irrecognize I simply lack the experience and knowledge and
    defer to people who have focused their lives more on the
    individual sport. I can still help with keeping kids
    upbeat and focused.

    The whole "professional" argument gets silly at times. Is
    a pro coach a good thing for a team? Sure. Can pros be as
    bad or worse than the amateurs? Absolutely, and the shame
    is they should know better. Does not being a pro make a
    person a poor coach? Hell no! Much like teachers, having a
    certification is a good thing, but in and of itself it
    doesn't make someone a good coach/teacher. Simply because
    the extra training is good does not mean someone without
    it is bad.

    In fact, without a doubt the biggest [censored], most
    megalamaniacal coaches I've ever seen were "professionals."

    I thnk the pro-professional argument gets overstated by the
    professionals

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    canoe.ca05
    /447335.html

    I had a bad coach in basketball and a bad one in baseball.
    Neither was a professional coach.

    martin

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Being a "professional" has no bearing on whether the coach
    is an [censored]. I've seen plenty of professional coaches I
    wouldn't have my kid anywhere near.

    I've done some youth coaching in various sports...I'm fine
    for low level sports where the teaching is on gross
    skills. As the skills increase and become more refined,
    Irrecognize I simply lack the experience and knowledge and
    defer to people who have focused their lives more on the
    individual sport. I can still help with keeping kids
    upbeat and focused.

    The whole "professional" argument gets silly at times. Is
    a pro coach a good thing for a team? Sure. Can pros be as
    bad or worse than the amateurs? Absolutely, and the shame
    is they should know better. Does not being a pro make a
    person a poor coach? Hell no! Much like teachers, having a
    certification is a good thing, but in and of itself it
    doesn't make someone a good coach/teacher. Simply because
    the extra training is good does not mean someone without
    it is bad.

    In fact, without a doubt the biggest [censored], most
    megalamaniacal coaches I've ever seen were
    "professionals."

    I thnk the pro-professional argument gets overstated by
    the professionals

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    canoe.cacanoe.ca
    05/447335.html

    I had a bad coach in basketball and a bad one in
    baseball. Neither was a professional coach.

    martin

    And yet another flavor of this issue - [censored] coaches are
    not necessarily unsuccessful. Some of the heavy hitters in
    that department are world renowned.

    - Al

  4. "Al" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1b02d5adb67005649897a1@mayonews...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Being a "professional" has no bearing on whether the
    coach is an


    [censored].

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've seen plenty of professional coaches I wouldn't have
    my kid anywhere near.

    I've done some youth coaching in various sports...I'm
    fine for low level sports where the teaching is on gross
    skills. As the skills increase


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    become more refined, Irrecognize I simply lack the
    experience and


    knowledge

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and defer to people who have focused their lives more on
    the individual sport. I can still help with keeping kids
    upbeat and focused.

    The whole "professional" argument gets silly at times.
    Is a pro coach a good thing for a team? Sure. Can pros
    be as bad or worse than the amateurs? Absolutely, and
    the shame is they should know better. Does


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    being a pro make a person a poor coach? Hell no! Much
    like teachers, having a certification is a good thing,
    but in and of itself it doesn't


    make

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    someone a good coach/teacher. Simply because the
    extra training is good does not mean someone without
    it is bad.

    In fact, without a doubt the biggest [censored], most
    megalamaniacal


    coaches

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've ever seen were "professionals."

    I thnk the pro-professional argument gets overstated
    by the


    professionals

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Martin W. Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    canoe.ca0
    5/05/447335.html

    I had a bad coach in basketball and a bad one in
    baseball. Neither was a professional coach.

    martin

    And yet another flavor of this issue - [censored] coaches are
    not necessarily unsuccessful. Some of the heavy hitters in
    that department are world renowned.

    - Al

    Absolutely...and when dealing with adults or near adults on
    an elite level, it may well work. Unfortunately, I've seen
    far too many youth and high school coaches in all sports
    use those guys as role models when dealing with kids. Just
    a few weeks ago I saw a kindergarten boys soccer team
    (we're talking herd ball, a cloud of dust with a ball in
    the middle type soccer) and it was obvious the two dad
    coaches were trying to run a practice for five year olds
    the way they remember their high school football coaches
    running practices...barking, yelling, berating small kids.
    Really sad.

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