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Increasing Stride Length

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  1. I was reading some articles on pponline regarding various subjects,
    and as I was reading about stride length I came across this excellent
    quote:

    "Rather than reaching out with the foreleg to increase your
    stride length, think about pushing back as hard as you can
    on each step. Use the buttocks and hamstrings to do so, very
    much the way you might push out hard from a set of starting
    blocks. Run from your hips - not from your knees".

    -Nancy Hamilton, University of Northern Iowa

    I really like this visualization, and thought I'd bring it
    to the attention of the group. The whole 'running from the
    hips' thing is great, and newer runners that read this will
    benefit from looking at it this way.

    I think a lot of runners who are thinking about getting
    faster for the first time tend to start overstriding because
    of their idea of where the power is coming from is
    incorrect. They get frustrated because they are upsetting
    their center of gravity.

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
    insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
    down constantly."

  2. [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    SwStudio said:

    I was reading some articles on pponline regarding various
    subjects, and as I was reading about stride length I came
    across this excellent quote:

    "Rather than reaching out with the foreleg to increase
    your stride length, think about pushing back as hard as
    you can on each step. Use the buttocks and hamstrings to
    do so, very much the way you might push out hard from a
    set of starting blocks. Run from your hips - not from
    your knees".

    -Nancy Hamilton, University of Northern Iowa

    I really like this visualization, and thought I'd bring it
    to the attention of the group. The whole 'running from the
    hips' thing is great, and newer runners that read this
    will benefit from looking at it this way.

    I think a lot of runners who are thinking about getting
    faster for the first time tend to start overstriding
    because of their idea of where the power is coming from is
    incorrect. They get frustrated because they are upsetting
    their center of gravity.

    cheers,

    Dave,

    Really like what she has to say. I liked the research she
    did about the slowing down that comes with age, mainly the
    heel getting further and further away from the butt as the
    knee pulls through.

    For me the image of pushing back on the step is replaced
    with the image of catapulting forward on each step from the
    planted foot.

    While picturing running from the hips, I like the image of
    the legs starting below the rib cage. That way the hip and
    knee of one side move forward as the other hip and knee move
    equally in the opposite direction.

    This way one begins to realize that the torquing of the
    pelvis/hips forward and back add an inch to few inches to
    one's stride.

    Talking about running from the hips for some people doesn't
    create the picture that the hips are rotating forward and
    back similar to one of those clocks where the flywheel
    rotate back and forth on the horizontal.

    For me the overstriding occurs because runners don't lift
    their knees up and forward. Rather as Hamilton says, in my
    words, the lower leg pendulums forward. Also rather than
    just lifting the knee, the jogger lifts their entire center
    of gravity each step which aids in the overstriding.

    So your comment of "upsetting their center of gravity" is
    right on. The set up is of the upset. That is the up and
    down beyond the normal vertical displacement of the pelvis
    of a good runner.

    Watching the men's winner of the Boston, his tucking of the
    lower leg behind the thigh to bring it through faster was
    still there at the end of the race. That tucking, that angle
    between thigh and lower leg, from my reading of Hamilton
    gets wider and wider with age.

    A piece of that in my mind has to do with the quads
    tightening, hamstrings tightening so the range of
    motion lessens.

    If you stand and lift your knee up, or observe someone lift
    their knee and you'll notice that a good number have their
    hamstring slightly contracted (spring loaded)
    __
    .../ rather than
    __
    ...| so that when the leg come through

    there's no knee lift so it looks more like

    ..\ ../ so as Hamilton says, the lower leg doesn't tuck
    behind the upper leg, the lower leg swings back and forth
    with little lifting of the knee rather it's lifting of the
    entire center of gravity with each step.

    In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer -
    rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est.
    1975

    Mindful Running: mindfulness.commr.asp faqs.orgrunning
    faq/

  3. "SwStudio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I really like this visualization,

    You are a sick man. You admit to thinking about her tight,
    sweet, wonderful, lil' buns rubbing together as her butt
    strains, and her breasts heave in perfect unison, dontcha?
    You ARE a sicko...

  4. Basically, you wouldn't have to worry about that if you were
    trained properly. You are worrying about stride length when
    you should be worrying more about maintaining relaxation
    while establishing rhythm and stress tolerance. With as
    little as you all know, I could take almost anyone one of
    you and have you break your PRs within two weeks. But if you
    start worrying about stride length then you can just forget
    it.

    Ozzie Gontang <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
    "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    SwStudio said:

    I was reading some articles on pponline regarding
    various subjects, and as I was reading about stride
    length I came across this excellent quote:

    "Rather than reaching out with the foreleg to increase
    your stride length, think about pushing back as hard as
    you can on each step. Use the buttocks and hamstrings to
    do so, very much the way you might push out hard from a
    set of starting blocks. Run from your hips - not from
    your knees".

    -Nancy Hamilton, University of Northern Iowa

    I really like this visualization, and thought I'd bring
    it to the attention of the group. The whole 'running
    from the hips' thing is great, and newer runners that
    read this will benefit from looking at it this way.

    I think a lot of runners who are thinking about getting
    faster for the first time tend to start overstriding
    because of their idea of where the power is coming from
    is incorrect. They get frustrated because they are
    upsetting their center of gravity.

    cheers,

    Dave,

    Really like what she has to say. I liked the research she
    did about the slowing down that comes with age, mainly the
    heel getting further and further away from the butt as the
    knee pulls through.

    For me the image of pushing back on the step is replaced
    with the image of catapulting forward on each step from
    the planted foot.

    While picturing running from the hips, I like the image of
    the legs starting below the rib cage. That way the hip and
    knee of one side move forward as the other hip and knee
    move equally in the opposite direction.

    This way one begins to realize that the torquing of the
    pelvis/hips forward and back add an inch to few inches to
    one's stride.

    Talking about running from the hips for some people
    doesn't create the picture that the hips are rotating
    forward and back similar to one of those clocks where the
    flywheel rotate back and forth on the horizontal.

    For me the overstriding occurs because runners don't lift
    their knees up and forward. Rather as Hamilton says, in my
    words, the lower leg pendulums forward. Also rather than
    just lifting the knee, the jogger lifts their entire
    center of gravity each step which aids in the
    overstriding.

    So your comment of "upsetting their center of gravity" is
    right on. The set up is of the upset. That is the up and
    down beyond the normal vertical displacement of the pelvis
    of a good runner.

    Watching the men's winner of the Boston, his tucking of
    the lower leg behind the thigh to bring it through faster
    was still there at the end of the race. That tucking, that
    angle between thigh and lower leg, from my reading of
    Hamilton gets wider and wider with age.

    A piece of that in my mind has to do with the quads
    tightening, hamstrings tightening so the range of motion
    lessens.

    If you stand and lift your knee up, or observe someone
    lift their knee and you'll notice that a good number have
    their hamstring slightly contracted (spring loaded)
    __
    .../ rather than
    __
    ...| so that when the leg come through

    there's no knee lift so it looks more like

    ..\ ../ so as Hamilton says, the lower leg doesn't tuck
    behind the upper leg, the lower leg swings back and forth
    with little lifting of the knee rather it's lifting of the
    entire center of gravity with each step.

    In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer -
    rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,
    est. 1975

    Mindful Running: mindfulness.commr.asp
    faqs.orgrunning faq

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