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Career win #850!

Steve McGinty · 2004-05-03T12:43:26+00:00

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.php?id=photos/2004/may04/grimpeurs04/14 Regards! Stephen

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Published: 3 May 2004
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Steve McGinty
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3 May 2004, 12:43 UTC #1

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Tritonrider
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3 May 2004, 13:01 UTC #2

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Regards! Stephen

Simply amazing. It's just too bad that for most of her
career there was no one even in her league. I like to
think about what a GT between her and Beryl Burton with
both in their prime would've looked like. I think it'd be
a hell of a show. Bill C

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Carl Sundquist
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3 May 2004, 13:21 UTC #3

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Simply amazing. It's just too bad that for most of her
career there was

no
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one even in her league. I like to think about what a GT
between her and

Beryl
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Burton with both in their prime would've looked like. I
think it'd be a

hell of
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a show.
As you said, simply amazing.
However, when I think of BB, I think of a time trialist more
than a climber. I don't know how well BB could climb. Longo
is/was a very well rounded rider.
If you could quantify her intensity and focus, I wonder how
it would compare to Merckx, Armstrong? The comparative lack
of depth of top riders may work in her favor.

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Bestest Handsan
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3 May 2004, 14:42 UTC #4

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Regards! Stephen
If I were some kind of mad scientist, I'd see if I could
cross some Eddie Merckx with some Longo and come up with an
Uberkind. After all, the Axel Experiment was kind of
disappointing!

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Steve McGinty
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3 May 2004, 15:42 UTC #5

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However, when I think of BB, I think of a time trialist
more than a climber. I don't know how well BB could climb.
Longo is/was a very well rounded rider.
If you could quantify her intensity and focus, I wonder
how it would compare to Merckx, Armstrong? The comparative
lack of depth of top riders may work in her favor.
Logo is so well rounded that I'm not sure if BB could
take enough out of her in the TT and intermediate
stages to hang on in the mountain. From pictures I
think Longo is a bit smaller too. Here's some good BB
stuff. dailypeloton.comdisplayarticle.asp
?pk=2487 Bill C
I actually think the mountains might have been BBs making as
the thing that stopped her winning more world RR champs was
that the courses were relatively short and too easy for her
to get rid of the rest. That and tactical niavety as the
Worlds would usually be her only RR of the year.
Of course you can't compare across generations (but what's
stopped us in the past!) but BB was a true "amateur" working
full time and bringing up a family.
Two incredible athletes whichever way you look at it with
the common denominator of the longevity of their careers.
I wonder how many career wins BB had - given her total
dominance in UK TT's she probably averaged one or two
wins a week.
Regards! Stephen

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Curtis L . Russ
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3 May 2004, 16:42 UTC #6

On Mon, 03 May 2004 16:32:18 +0200, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>
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The classic mistake. Try Eddy's father with Jeannie's
mother.
Clarification please. Who's going to try Eddie's father AND
Jeannie's mother? Do we expect offspring from both attempts?
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

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Richard Adams
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3 May 2004, 18:43 UTC #7

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Regards! Stephen
If I were some kind of mad scientist, I'd see if I could
cross some Eddie Merckx with some Longo and come up with
an Uberkind. After all, the Axel Experiment was kind of
disappointing!
Probably end up with some poor girl the size of Longo who
looks like and weighs as much as Eddy.

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Tm
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3 May 2004, 18:43 UTC #8

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Eddy.
aka Fred Flintstone.

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Chris
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3 May 2004, 20:00 UTC #9

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If you could quantify her intensity and focus, I wonder
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compare
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to Merckx, Armstrong? The comparative lack of depth of top
riders may work in her favor.
What do you mean by that? It already had been for over 20
years.

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Carl Sundquist
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4 May 2004, 01:42 UTC #10

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in her favor.
What do you mean by that? It already had been for over
20 years.
In terms of outright success, yes. In terms of intensity and
focus, I don't know.

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Bestest Handsan
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4 May 2004, 03:21 UTC #11

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If I were some kind of mad scientist, I'd see if I could
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Eddie
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Merckx with some Longo and come up with an Uberkind.
After all, the

Axel
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Experiment was kind of disappointing!
Probably end up with some poor girl the size of Longo who
looks like and weighs as much as Eddy.
Well, I did say mad scientist... not a smart one!

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Richard Adams
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4 May 2004, 04:44 UTC #12

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If I were some kind of mad scientist, I'd see if I could
cross some
Eddie
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Merckx with some Longo and come up with an Uberkind.
After all, the
Axel
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Experiment was kind of disappointing!
Probably end up with some poor girl the size of Longo who
looks like and weighs as much as Eddy.
Well, I did say mad scientist... not a smart one!
There was a cartoon I saw somewhere where a couple brought
their baby daughter back to the clinic where she was
'engineered' to have traits from Albert Einstein and a super
model. Turned out the kid looked like Alfred and had the
smarts of the super model. Probably a Quigmans..

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Chris
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8 May 2004, 02:16 UTC #13

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If you could quantify her intensity and focus, I
wonder how it would

compare
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to Merckx, Armstrong? The comparative lack of depth of
top riders may

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in her favor.
What do you mean by that? It already had been for over
20 years.
In terms of outright success, yes.
That is what I meant.
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In terms of intensity and focus, I don't know.
Hmm, I thought that was equally obvious that it never
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Carl Sundquist
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8 May 2004, 03:27 UTC #14

"Steve McGinty" <[email hidden]> wrote
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I actually think the mountains might have been BBs making
as the thing that stopped her winning more world RR champs
was that the courses were relatively short and too easy
for her to get rid of the rest. That and tactical niavety
as the Worlds would usually be her only RR of the year.
Of course you can't compare across generations (but what's
stopped us in the past!) but BB was a true "amateur"
working full time and bringing up a family.
I think Maria Canins did also.

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Carl Sundquist
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8 May 2004, 03:27 UTC #15

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> If you could quantify her intensity and focus, I
> wonder how it would
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> in her favor.
What do you mean by that? It already had been for over
20 years.
In terms of outright success, yes.
That is what I meant.
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In terms of intensity and focus, I don't know.
Hmm, I thought that was equally obvious that it never
had to be.
I do not consider success to be necessarily synonymous with
intensity and focus. But that does not preclude its
potential.

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Carl Sundquist
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8 May 2004, 04:33 UTC #16

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I do not consider success to be necessarily synonymous
with intensity and focus. But that does not preclude its
potential.
Sorry, that should read, "But that does not preclude _their_
potential."

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