Mountain bike toeclips

"Charles Li" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Hey, question for everyone/anyone-

I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm looking to get some more speed out of
my bike with toeclips (not to mention being sick of losing
my pedals from under my feet on drops). I'm looking to
spend as little money as possible, so should I buy clips
to put on my pedals

I wouldn't. I used them for ages on-road and off. Glad to
switch. Clipless are better. Platform pedals are better off-
road too. I guess it depends on what you ride and your
preferences. One problem with clipless is they're either too
tight for safe release, or too loose for maximum efficiency.
I used to ride them not super tight, and then tighten them
up for climbs. It's OK, but there are better choices.

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I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm

looking

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to get some more speed out of my bike with toeclips (not
to mention being sick of losing my pedals from under my
feet on drops). I'm looking to

spend

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as little money as possible, so should I buy clips to put
on my pedals or just buy replacement caged pedals?

that might depend on how well your current pedals are set up
for clips, and what is available in your area. two prices i
remember are about eight bucks for clips and straps at the
LBS, and thirty bucks for pedals complete with clips and
straps at REI.

fwiw, i like riding pedals, clips, and "somewhat" snug
straps. the trick imo is to use somewhat flat-soled tennis
shoes (some people use skate shoes) so that you can be a bit
snug and still yank 'em out in an emergency. kind of a trade-
off with walking traction though.

i tried riding clipless but just couldn't get my reaction
time down fast enough to suit me.

"Charles Li" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey, question for everyone/anyone-

I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm

looking

Quoted message said:

to get some more speed out of my bike with toeclips (not
to mention being sick of losing my pedals from under my
feet on drops). I'm looking to

spend

Quoted message said:

as little money as possible, so should I buy clips to put
on my pedals or just buy replacement caged pedals?

Thanks,

Chuck

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Quoted message said:

Hey, question for everyone/anyone-

I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm looking to get some more speed out of
my bike with toeclips (not to mention being sick of losing
my pedals from under my feet on drops). I'm looking to
spend as little money as possible, so should I buy clips
to put on my pedals or just buy replacement caged pedals?

Thanks,

Chuck

Unless you feel like picking your teeth up off of the
sidewalk, go clipless. They are even more dangerous off-
road. If you don't think you can handle clipless, stay with
the platforms. I've ridden platforms, toe-straps, and
clipless pedals. You'd have to pay me a hell of a lot to use
either of the former ever again.

Just my $0.02

- Boyd S.

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"Charles Li" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Hey, question for everyone/anyone-

I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm looking to get some more speed out of
my bike with toeclips (not to mention being sick of
losing my pedals from under my feet on drops). I'm
looking to spend as little money as possible, so should
I buy clips to put on my pedals or just buy replacement
caged pedals?

Thanks,

Chuck

Unless you feel like picking your teeth up off of the
sidewalk, go

clipless.

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They are even more dangerous off-road.

LOL.

I'm just waiting for the Toeclip Mafia to point out the
error of your generalization.

Charles Li said:

Hey, question for everyone/anyone-

I have a trek 3700, I do some commuting and some
joyriding, and I'm looking to get some more speed out of
my bike with toeclips (not to mention being sick of losing
my pedals from under my feet on drops). I'm looking to
spend as little money as possible, so should I buy clips
to put on my pedals or just buy replacement caged pedals?

Are your pedals plastic? I don't think they can take toe
clips if they are. Also, consider "Power Grips" - I used
them for a few years before going clipless. They hook up the
same as toe clips, but I like the way you can tighten them
as-needed by turning your heels in. I imagine they cost
about the same as toe clips, and they hook up the same.

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Boydbrain Speerschneider <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> had this
to say about toeclips:

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They are even more dangerous off-road.

Yes, they are quite death-defying...for lamers who lack
coordination.

JD

Mini toeclips will do.

I MTB 2004

"David" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I wouldn't. I used them for ages on-road and off. Glad to
switch. Clipless are better. Platform pedals are better
off-road too. I guess it depends on what you ride and your
preferences. One problem with clipless

That was supposed to be "one problem with toe-clips"

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Boydbrain Speerschneider
<bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> had this to say about
toeclips:

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They are even more dangerous off-road.

Yes, they are quite death-defying...for lamers who lack
coordination.

JD

Lamers Who Lack Coordination (LWLCs) are exactly the type of
people who seem to gravitate towards toeclips. They have
this weird idea that toeclips are safer and easier to use
than clipless pedals.

I work in a bike store. The only riders I've seen buy
toeclips there are LWLCs and Retro-Grouch Kooks (RGKs). For
the most part, the RGKs are also LWLCs.

- Boyd S.

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Boydbrain Speerschneider
<bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> had this to say
about toeclips:

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They are even more dangerous off-road.

Yes, they are quite death-defying...for lamers who lack
coordination.

JD

Lamers Who Lack Coordination (LWLCs) are exactly the type
of people who

seem

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to gravitate towards toeclips. They have this weird
idea that toeclips are safer and easier to use than
clipless pedals.

I work in a bike store. The only riders I've seen buy
toeclips there are LWLCs and Retro-Grouch Kooks (RGKs).
For the most part, the RGKs are also LWLCs.

Awesome response!

(not for the reason you would most likely think though)

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[email hidden] (JD) wrote in
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Boydbrain Speerschneider
<bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> had this to say
about toeclips:

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They are even more dangerous off-road.

Yes, they are quite death-defying...for lamers who lack
coordination.

JD

Lamers Who Lack Coordination (LWLCs) are exactly the type
of people who seem to gravitate towards toeclips. They
have this weird idea that toeclips are safer and easier to
use than clipless pedals.

Yeah, the Toeclip Mafia are complete lamers. We have this
idea that we are allowed to use what works best for us,
though we pose more than ride.

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I work in a bike store. The only riders I've seen buy
toeclips there are LWLCs and Retro-Grouch Kooks (RGKs).
For the most part, the RGKs are also LWLCs.

You work in a bike store, so you must know everything and
have ridden with everyone in the World. Please stay in your
sad little realm.

JD

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Boydbrain Speerschneider
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^^^^^^^^^ Wow, making fun of a name that was given to me
at birth. I name I never chose. That's *real* mature. I
haven't heard that one since the 3rd grade. Grow up.

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Boydbrain Speerschneider
<bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> had this to say
about toeclips:
> They are even more dangerous off-road.

Yes, they are quite death-defying...for lamers who lack
coordination.

JD

Lamers Who Lack Coordination (LWLCs) are exactly the type
of people who seem to gravitate towards toeclips. They
have this weird idea that toeclips are safer and easier
to use than clipless pedals.

Yeah, the Toeclip Mafia are complete lamers. We have this
idea that we are allowed to use what works best for us,
though we pose more than ride.

Perhaps toeclips work best for you because you lack the
coordination required to use clipless pedals. But, since I
don't know everything, I could be wrong. Please enlighten me
(*holding breath*).

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I work in a bike store. The only riders I've seen buy
toeclips there are LWLCs and Retro-Grouch Kooks (RGKs).
For the most part, the RGKs are also LWLCs.

You work in a bike store, so you must know everything and
have ridden with everyone in the World. Please stay in
your sad little realm.

JD

No need to for personal attacks here. We are all adults here
(I assume), so act like it. I didn't say that because I work
in an LBS that I "know everything and have ridden with
everyone in the world". All I did was offer up my experience
as to who purchases toe straps. I stand by that statement.

- Boyd S.

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I work in a bike store. The only riders I've seen buy
toeclips there are LWLCs and Retro-Grouch Kooks (RGKs).
For the most part, the RGKs are also LWLCs.

You work in a bike store, so you must know everything and
have ridden with everyone in the World. Please stay in
your sad little realm.

JD

Surely you realise that once a bike part has been superceded
it becomes unsafe to use, like a sun lamp from the 1940's?
Why the very bike you ride today will one day have to be
buried in a lead lined box, just in case someone tried to
ride down the local shops to pick up some cigarette papers
on it and got themselves killed dead.

cheers

g

socks said:

fwiw, here is the memory that makes me (a RGK i guess) go
back to clips:

i was riding down a somewhat steep and rutted fire-road
(slowly) when my front tire slipped off into a rut and
over the bars i went ... except, just on instinct i
somehow managed to yank both feet from the clips, swing my
arms up, head back, feet forward ... and land with a big
thump on my feet.

Same thing happened to me on my FIRST mountain bike ride,
though I was going extremely fast and landed at a full run!

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that happened back when everybody rode clips, and i kind
of wondered if i'd get that good with clipless, but i
never did.

Its happened me countless times. I believe the maneuver is
called a "stepover", though I can't say I ever did it
intentionally (it just happened).

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* - not counting the broken wrist suffered with clipless.

Ouch! I say go with whatever works best for your. Clearly
not clipless in your case!

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BB said:

On Fri, 7 May 2004 11:14:52 -0700, socks wrote:

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* - not counting the broken wrist suffered with clipless.

Ouch! I say go with whatever works best for your. Clearly
not clipless in your case!

i think that's the real lesson. i kept trying clipless even
though i wasn't getting it, and it took the break to
convince me to give it up. so, the take-away is to do what
feels good and don't force something that isn't working
(for you).

socks said:

i think that's the real lesson. i kept trying clipless
even though i wasn't getting it, and it took the break to
convince me to give it up. so, the take-away is to do what
feels good and don't force something that isn't working
(for you).

True, up to a point - some people take longer than others to
get used to clipless but do get used to them. I had a
helluva time with them the first year. All those stupid, slow-
motion, rolling-down-the-hill-sideways crashes. But after
awhile I got used to it, and now it drives me nuts to ride
with anything else (especially flats).

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Boydbrain Speerschneider <bspeerscREMOVE_ME@ME_TOOyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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All I did was offer up my experience as to who purchases
toe straps.

Experience from your sad, little World. How does it feel to
be an encapsulated birdbrain?

JD