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  1. Original post
    Rural Qld Cc
    Archived post
    #1

    Greetings, I'd like to pose a question re the Mongoose
    'Wing' series mountain bikes. I'm considering either the
    Wing Comp or the Wing Elite, but I'm not sure if the Elite
    is worth the extra money. I only had a couple of
    requirements in choosing a bike........I wanted alloy frame
    (so it's lighter to throw in and out of the car), suspension
    (to stop my bum getting bashed half way up my back) and dual
    lever gears (not sure what the tech term for these
    is.....the ones with one lever for up and a different lever
    for down). These 2 mongoose bikes are within the price range
    I'm prepared to part with and I think they'll stand up to
    any of the treatment I'm likely to throw at them. My riding
    will be restricted to a couple of paved bike paths and the
    few rocky/gravel/dirt/sandy paths that are available along
    the length of said paved paths. Some are steep downhill
    paths (steep enough that my [censored] Malvern Star mountain bike
    brakes couldn't stop my descent without nearly breaking my
    fingers trying to pull the levers hard enough.....), but are
    short.....mostly, they're paths that run from the
    footpath/bikepath to the start of the sand at the beach edge
    and are only a couple of hundred metres long at most.

    Just in case these models aren't available outside
    Australia, I'll post the details of the 2:

    Wing Comp: mongoosebikes.com.aucom
    mand/viewproduct/productserial/36/categoryserial/22
    - 7005 alloy main frame with 4 bar linkage rear suspension
    and Cr-Mo rear triangle
    - AQ-head system with zero stack 1-1/8" headset
    - MOZO USA R-150 forks and RS200 coil over rear shock
    - Shimano EF-29 21 speed shifters with Altus rear derailleur
    - Shimano TY40 crank set
    - ProMax alloy linear pull brakes
    - Alex SCE-17 rims with alloy double sealed hubs
    (cassette rear)

    Wing Elite: mongoosebikes.com.auco
    mmand/viewproduct/productserial/37/categoryserial/22
    - 7005 alloy main frame with 4 bar linkage rear suspension
    and Cr-Mo rear triangle
    - RST Gila T4 fork, RST-22 coil over rear shock with
    hydraulic damping
    - Shimano EF-29 24 speed shifters and Shimano Acera
    derailleurs
    - Truvati X-flow crankset
    - Tektro IO floating caliper mech. disc brakes
    - Alex DM-18 double wall rims with Formula cassette rear hub
    - Hutchison Mosquito tyres

    The difference in price is AUD$200. I realise the Elite has
    disc brakes (which I'm quite sure I don't need at this
    point), but with that aside, is the price difference worth
    it? At some point I'd like to do some 'real' off-road
    riding, so I'm wondering if the Elite will serve me better
    when I decide to do that.

    Thanks, Brenton

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  2. Westie
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    #2
    Rural QLD CC said:

    Greetings, I'd like to pose a question re the Mongoose
    'Wing' series mountain bikes. I'm considering either the
    Wing Comp or the Wing Elite, but I'm not sure if the Elite
    is worth the extra money.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The difference in price is AUD$200. I realise the Elite
    has disc brakes (which I'm quite sure I don't need at this
    point), but with that aside, is the price difference worth
    it? At some point I'd like to do some 'real' off-road
    riding, so I'm wondering if the Elite will serve me better
    when I decide to do that.

    What's the retail price? You told us the difference, but not
    the actual price.

    Biggest problem that you've got here is that a full
    suspension bike in this price range is not very good value
    for money if you want it to last more than a few months. Not
    only is the suspension of a low quality and inferior
    performance, all the other components are low quality and
    low performance too. Before you know it the brakes will be
    impossible to adjust, things will break and fall off, wheels
    will go out of true, bearings will go wobbly and the gear
    changing will give you continual headaches.

    Do one of two things: First; save more money and buy a
    better quality full suspension bike.

    Or two; I would suggest that you look at a hardtail bike at
    the same price. Without the cost of the rear suspension you
    get much better components. For the riding that you are
    doing you may not really need full suspension anyway.

    It would pay to have a look at secondhand bikes too. There
    are good buys to be found.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

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  3. Mrbonk
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    #3

    In Aussie dollars, the Comp is $600 and the Elite is $800.
    That's just my local price.....haven't phoned any of the
    major metro shops to find out their price yet.

    MrBonk www.mrbonk.com

    "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Rural QLD CC said:

    Greetings, I'd like to pose a question re the Mongoose
    'Wing' series mountain bikes. I'm considering either the
    Wing Comp or the Wing Elite, but I'm not sure if the
    Elite is worth the extra money.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The difference in price is AUD$200. I realise the Elite
    has disc brakes (which I'm quite sure I don't need at
    this point), but with that aside, is the price
    difference worth it? At some point I'd like to do some
    'real' off-road riding, so I'm wondering if the Elite
    will serve me better when I decide to do that.

    What's the retail price? You told us the difference, but
    not the actual price.

    Biggest problem that you've got here is that a full
    suspension bike in


    this

    Quoted message said:

    price range is not very good value for money if you want
    it to last more than a few months. Not only is the
    suspension of a low quality and


    inferior

    Quoted message said:

    performance, all the other components are low quality and
    low performance too. Before you know it the brakes will be
    impossible to adjust, things will break and fall off,
    wheels will go out of true, bearings will go


    wobbly

    Quoted message said:

    and the gear changing will give you continual headaches.

    Do one of two things: First; save more money and buy a
    better quality full suspension bike.

    Or two; I would suggest that you look at a hardtail bike
    at the same


    price.

    Quoted message said:

    Without the cost of the rear suspension you get much
    better components.


    For

    Quoted message said:

    the riding that you are doing you may not really need full
    suspension anyway.

    It would pay to have a look at secondhand bikes too. There
    are good buys


    to

    Quoted message said:

    be found.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

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  4. Westie
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    #4
    MrBonk said:

    In Aussie dollars, the Comp is $600 and the Elite is $800.
    That's just my local price.....haven't phoned any of the
    major metro shops to find out their price yet.

    Yep. That confirms it. At that price range you're simply not
    going to get a full suspension bike that will hold together
    or even work very well while it holds together. Forget the
    full sus at that price and go for a decent hardtail. Start
    by having a look at reputable brands like, to name a few,
    GT, Giant, Specialized, Jamis, Trek, or Haro. Much better
    value to be had for the hard earned dollar. Some places
    might even have specials on last years models too. They can
    be a good buy because you get a good bike much cheaper just
    because the shop wants to make room for the new models.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

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  5. Mrbonk
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    #5

    Ok, so to get a full suspension bike that works well while
    it holds together, what sort of price range am I looking at?

    MrBonk www.mrbonk.com

    "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MrBonk said:

    In Aussie dollars, the Comp is $600 and the Elite is
    $800. That's just my local price.....haven't phoned any
    of the major metro shops to find out their price yet.

    Yep. That confirms it. At that price range you're simply
    not going to get


    a

    Quoted message said:

    full suspension bike that will hold together or even work
    very well while


    it

    Quoted message said:

    holds together. Forget the full sus at that price and go
    for a decent hardtail. Start by having a look at reputable
    brands like, to name a few, GT, Giant, Specialized, Jamis,
    Trek, or Haro. Much better value to be had for the


    hard

    Quoted message said:

    earned dollar. Some places might even have specials on
    last years models too. They can be a good buy because you
    get a good bike much cheaper just because the shop wants
    to make room for the new models.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

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  6. Joel Crum
    Archived post
    #6

    "MrBonk" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7als4$19jcj$1@ID-
    184392.news.uni-berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so to get a full suspension bike that works well
    while it holds together, what sort of price range am I
    looking at?

    If you stay in the 800-dollar price range but buy used you
    can get a really top quality full suspension bike. That's
    how I got my current ride, and I'm very happy with it.

    --
    - Joel C.

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  7. Mattb
    Archived post
    #7
    Joel Crum said:

    "MrBonk" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7als4$19jcj$1@ID-
    184392.news.uni-berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so to get a full suspension bike that works well
    while it holds together, what sort of price range am I
    looking at?

    If you stay in the 800-dollar price range but buy used you
    can get a really top quality full suspension bike. That's
    how I got my current ride, and I'm very happy with it.

    Aussie dollars? MrBonk, you may need to double that figure
    for a used FS taking the exchange rate into account. You may
    also want to have someone more experienced look it over
    (like a pro mechanic) as there's more that could go wrong on
    a FS that may not be visually obvious to you.

    Matt

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  8. Mrbonk
    Archived post
    #8

    Ok, thanks all for the advice. I'll check out what's around
    on ebay and in my local area, although I'm quite certain
    there won't be anything in that range at my local dealers.
    Time for a trip to some city shops!

    MrBonk www.mrbonk.com

    "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Joel Crum said:

    "MrBonk" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7als4$19jcj$1@ID-
    184392.news.uni-berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so to get a full suspension bike that works well
    while it holds together, what sort of price range am I
    looking at?

    If you stay in the 800-dollar price range but buy used
    you can get a really top quality full suspension bike.
    That's how I got my current ride, and I'm very happy
    with it.

    Aussie dollars? MrBonk, you may need to double that figure
    for a used FS taking the


    exchange

    Quoted message said:

    rate into account. You may also want to have someone more
    experienced look it over (like a pro mechanic) as there's
    more that could go wrong on a FS that may not be visually
    obvious to you.

    Matt

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  9. crazy6r54
    Archived post
    #9

    Mongoose Pro is the right word. I test road them both along
    with GT i Drive pricepoint. All for a friend / owner of a
    LBS that doesn't ride. I came out liking the Pro.

    I MTB 2004

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  10. Joel Crum
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    #10

    "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7br99$1tur6$1@ID-
    86156.news.uni-berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Aussie dollars?

    I purchased my bike in American dollars. Yesterday the
    exchange rate was 1 USD to .733703 AUD, so my 800 dollar
    figure translates to 1,090 AUD. But I didn't shop around,
    and I'm guessing things are a little cheaper over-all in
    Australia.

    I whole heartedly concur with the "get a pro to look at it"
    advice. I didn't and the front shock turned out to have a
    broken spring. Fortunately, that's only a 38USD repair.

    --
    - Joel C.

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