Lights

BrakePiston <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Do you have to have lights on during the night? Is there a
: fine if you don't?

Yes. Yes.

: Do they have to be always fitted? I.e. middle of the day

No.

: What about clip on lights?

What about them?

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Quoted message said:

: Do they have to be always fitted? I.e. middle of the day

No.

Just as well - imagine speding big dollar on an all carbon
road bike only to have to weigh it down with lights!

Quoted message said:

What does the law say about lights for bikes?

Do you have to have lights on during the night? Is there a
fine if you don't?

Assuming you are in the UK...

Highway Code rule 46 "At night your cycle MUST have front
and rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red rear
reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if manufactured after
1/10/85). White front reflectors and spoke reflectors will
also help you to be seen. Law RVLR regs 18 & 24"

See also ctc.org.ukstandards.aspxOpen ↗ It puts
it in plain English

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What does the law say about lights for bikes?

Do you have to have lights on during the night? Is there a
fine if you don't?

Assuming you are in the UK...

Highway Code rule 46 "At night your cycle MUST have front
and rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red
rear reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if
manufactured after 1/10/85). White front reflectors and
spoke reflectors will also help you to be seen. Law RVLR
regs 18 & 24"

I've yet to come across clipless pedals with amber
reflectors. Does this make them illegal? Not that I've ever
seen the police ducking to look at my pedals as I go past.

[runs off to look at bike]

No, it hasn't got a red rear reflector either.

Iain Jones said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What does the law say about lights for bikes?

Do you have to have lights on during the night? Is there
a fine if you don't?

Assuming you are in the UK...

Highway Code rule 46 "At night your cycle MUST have front
and rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red
rear reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if
manufactured after 1/10/85). White front reflectors and
spoke reflectors will also help you to be seen. Law RVLR
regs 18 & 24"

I've yet to come across clipless pedals with amber
reflectors. Does this make them illegal?

I believe so - though of course only at night.

Seriously, psychologists say that reflectors on pedals are
worth umpteen reflectors elsewhere. They stand out more
because of their up-down motion.

google.co.uksearchOpen ↗
inl/ITAI/Moberly.pdf+biomotion+pedal+reflector&hl=en&ie=UTF-
8

or google for 'biomotion' and 'pedestrian'. It has to be
said there isn't much that's specific to cyclists.

Some say drivers shouldn't go so fast that their stopping
distance exceeds the distance they can see to be clear.
The above link reckons that many drivers couldn't see a
dark-clothed pedestrian in time, if they were travelling
over 15mph.

Quoted message said:

Not that I've ever seen the police ducking to look at my
pedals as I go past.

I'd have thought the insurance companies might take more
interest than the police, if some poor automobile gets
scratched in an accident. Though I may be wrong as I never
heard of a case where this was raised as an issue.

Kit

Quoted message said:

[runs off to look at bike]

No, it hasn't got a red rear reflector either.

Lots of lights have integral ones.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:40:20 +0000 (UTC), Iain Jones
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Quoted message said:

I've yet to come across clipless pedals with amber
reflectors. Does this make them illegal?

Yes, if the bike was sold after 1/10/85 and is ridden at
night.

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Just zis Guy said:

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:40:20 +0000 (UTC), Iain Jones
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Quoted message said:

I've yet to come across clipless pedals with amber
reflectors. Does this make them illegal?

Yes, if the bike was sold after 1/10/85 and is ridden
at night.

My clipless (Shimano M324, platform pedals one side) can
actually take reflectors, but they didn't come in the box -
the instructions said they were "optional". Anyone know
where I could get them from? (It might say on the
instructions, but they're elsewhere at the moment)

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Keith Willoughby said:

My clipless (Shimano M324, platform pedals one side) can
actually take reflectors, but they didn't come in the box
- the instructions said they were "optional". Anyone know
where I could get them from? (It might say on the
instructions, but they're elsewhere at the moment)

Reflective bits on shoes or bottoms of trousers, or those
winter shoe covers are very effective. The shoe covers can
be really effective because of their size. I've followed a
couple of cyclists with them.

Even if not modifying clothing, you can get velcro on or
snap on bands to go round your ankles which offer quite a
large reflective area. I've found the velcro ones to come
off sometimes though (perhaps need defluffing), and have not
tried the snap on ones.

I have reflective trousers which I use in poor visibility,
or if its slightly cold - not so much use on a 'bent though
except for being seen from the side. Useful for pulling out.
They work well on the upright though.

- Richard

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Just as well - imagine speding big dollar on an all carbon
road bike only to have to weigh it down with lights!

The lighter the bike the heavier the lock(s) you have to
carry to stop it being nicked. This is known as Weight
Compensation.

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