Fastest ride yet

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:51:38 -0400, David Kerber

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With a little help from a southwest breeze, I set a
personal best for average speed on one of my regular
routes. The wind direction was such that most of the time
when I was going into it, I was going downhill, and on the
return leg I was going up the hills with the wind. That
combination helped me average 17.1 for 14.7 miles. I've
done better in races, but I've never averaged quite that
fast on a routine ride.

Congrats! Now I'll _never_ catch up to you. 😉

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As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

On Saturday, I rode 33 miles at an average of 14
mph...pretty good for me with so few miles under my belt
this season. Through the whole ride, I felt like I had a bad
headwind, but I must have had a pretty good tailwind for
much of it; at one point, I stopped, and observed the way
the wind was blowing, and it was definitely a headwind.
Resigned to it, but still feeling good from my good ride so
far, I continued into the wind, and found I was still faster
than usual.

So, maybe there IS hope for me.
--
Rick Onanian

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As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

you suck when we get winds I get some of it going to work
and coming home. since I go two directions both ways. and I
always get the wind going uphill. that really sucks (G)

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On Saturday, I rode 33 miles at an average of 14
mph...pretty good for me with so few miles under my belt
this season. Through the whole ride, I felt like I had a
bad headwind, but I must have had a pretty good tailwind
for much of it; at one point, I stopped, and observed the
way the wind was blowing, and it was definitely a
headwind. Resigned to it, but still feeling good from my
good ride so far, I continued into the wind, and found I
was still faster than usual.

So, maybe there IS hope for me.

Considering that you're 20 years younger than me, you'll
catch me before long; it's just a matter of your
conditioning catching up with that trainer work I did during
the winter. Last year at this time I was just about where
you are now, because I didn't have the trainer. My early-
season rides averaged around 14 to 14.5, and by the end of
the summer I was at 16.5 on the same 12 to 20-mile routes.

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As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

you suck when we get winds I get some of it going to work
and coming home. since I go two directions both ways. and
I always get the wind going uphill. that really sucks (G)

Actually it sounds like it blows.

<ducks>

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:49:11 -0400, David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net>

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Considering that you're 20 years younger than me, you'll
catch me before long; it's just a matter of your
conditioning catching up with that trainer work I did
during the winter. Last year at this time I was just
about where you are now, because I didn't have the
trainer. My early- season rides averaged around 14 to
14.5, and by the end of the summer I was at 16.5 on the
same 12 to 20-mile routes.

Great job, David!

-B

David Kerber said:

With a little help from a southwest breeze, I set a
personal best for average speed on one of my regular
routes. The wind direction was such that most of the time
when I was going into it, I was going downhill, and on the
return leg I was going up the hills with the wind. That
combination helped me average 17.1 for 14.7 miles. I've
done better in races, but I've never averaged quite that
fast on a routine ride.

As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

I ride a section thru the valley pretty often; a tail wind
gets me an average of 25 mph for about 8 miles, a head wind
is more like 15 mph. It matters little, I usually take that
road in both directions during the course of the ride.

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I ride a section thru the valley pretty often; a tail
wind gets me an average of 25 mph for about 8 miles, a
head wind is more like 15 mph. It matters little, I
usually take that road in both directions during the
course of the ride.

If it were level, it would pretty much even out (not
exactly, though). But in my case, the way the wind was
helping me up the hills seemed to give me a boost in my
overall average.

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Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

With a little help from a southwest breeze, I set a
personal best for average speed on one of my regular
routes. The wind direction was such that most of the time
when I was going into it, I was going downhill, and on the
return leg I was going up the hills with the wind. That
combination helped me average 17.1 for 14.7 miles. I've
done better in races, but I've never averaged quite that
fast on a routine ride.

As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

_ One time when I was living in Boulder CO, I happened to
time my late afternoon 40 mile loop east of the city such
that I had tailwinds the entire time. I happened to catch
the winds around the very common afternoon thunderstorms
just right. My avg speed was something around 25 mph... A
ride like that sticks in your memory for a long time.

_ Booker C. Bense

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David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

With a little help from a southwest breeze, I set a
personal best for average speed on one of my regular
routes. The wind direction was such that most of the time
when I was going into it, I was going downhill, and on
the return leg I was going up the hills with the wind.
That combination helped me average 17.1 for 14.7 miles.
I've done better in races, but I've never averaged quite
that fast on a routine ride.

As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

_ One time when I was living in Boulder CO, I happened to
time my late afternoon 40 mile loop east of the city such
that I had tailwinds the entire time. I happened to catch
the winds around the very common afternoon thunderstorms
just right. My avg speed was something around 25 mph... A
ride like that sticks in your memory for a long time.

It could be a depressing memory, if you never get to repeat
that speed!

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_ One time when I was living in Boulder CO, I happened to
time my late afternoon 40 mile loop east of the city such
that I had tailwinds the entire time. I happened to catch
the winds around the very common afternoon thunderstorms
just right. My avg speed was something around 25 mph... A
ride like that sticks in your memory for a long time.

It could be a depressing memory, if you never get to repeat
that speed!

I once got stuck riding my tandem home in a full-on tropical
storm (Humberto - about 8 years ago IIRC). It was a ride to
remember - 40+mph with the rain hitting us in the BACK. Cars
gave us lots of clearance that afternoon!

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of
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_ One time when I was living in Boulder CO, I happened
to time my late afternoon 40 mile loop east of the city
such that I had tailwinds the entire time. I happened
to catch the winds around the very common afternoon
thunderstorms just right. My avg speed was something
around 25 mph... A ride like that sticks in your memory
for a long time.

It could be a depressing memory, if you never get to
repeat that speed!

I once got stuck riding my tandem home in a full-on
tropical storm (Humberto - about 8 years ago IIRC). It was
a ride to remember - 40+mph with the rain hitting us in
the BACK. Cars gave us lots of clearance that afternoon!

Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I could spin
my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind resistance!

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David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I could
spin my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind resistance!

You almost certainly could, at least if you ride a road
bike. At 40 mph the overcoming the rolling resistance could
take as little as 50 watts, although that might be slightly
optimistic on most surfaces. In general, rolling resistance
increases only linearly as you go faster, so at higher
speeds it becomes relatively insignificant.

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David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I could
spin my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind resistance!

You almost certainly could, at least if you ride a road
bike. At 40 mph the overcoming the rolling resistance
could take as little as 50 watts, although that might be
slightly optimistic on most surfaces. In general, rolling
resistance increases only linearly as you go faster, so at
higher speeds it becomes relatively insignificant.

It's just the rpm I'd have to spin my 175mm cranks at, which
I would worry about; I don't have real fast legs, and
(without actually doing the math) it would probably take 125
rpm to hit 40 mph.

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David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I could
spin my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind resistance!

You almost certainly could, at least if you ride a road
bike. At 40 mph the overcoming the rolling resistance
could take as little as 50 watts, although that might be
slightly optimistic on most surfaces. In general, rolling
resistance increases only linearly as you go faster, so
at higher speeds it becomes relatively insignificant.

It's just the rpm I'd have to spin my 175mm cranks at,
which I would worry about; I don't have real fast legs, and
(without actually doing the math) it would probably take
125 rpm to hit 40 mph.

In our tandem's top gear of 54x13, it's only about 120rpm
(a very easy cadence actually, especially with a tropical
storm doing 90% of the work). I can hit 200rpm on a
stationary bike (though doubt I'm making much efficient
power doing it).

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David Kerber <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:

> Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I
> could spin my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind
> resistance!

You almost certainly could, at least if you ride a road
bike. At 40 mph the overcoming the rolling resistance
could take as little as 50 watts, although that might
be slightly optimistic on most surfaces. In general,
rolling resistance increases only linearly as you go
faster, so at higher speeds it becomes relatively
insignificant.

It's just the rpm I'd have to spin my 175mm cranks at,
which I would worry about; I don't have real fast legs,
and (without actually doing the math) it would probably
take 125 rpm to hit 40 mph.

In our tandem's top gear of 54x13, it's only about 120rpm
(a very easy cadence actually, especially with a tropical
storm doing 90% of the work). I can hit 200rpm on a
stationary bike (though doubt I'm making much efficient
power doing it).

On my trainer, even at zero resistance, I can only hit 140
to 145 rpm. How long are your crank arms?

I went back, and if I'm estimating the tire rolling
diameter correctly, 40 mph would actually be about 111 rpm
on my setup.

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In our tandem's top gear of 54x13, it's only about 120rpm
(a very easy cadence actually, especially with a tropical
storm doing 90% of the work). I can hit 200rpm on a
stationary bike (though doubt I'm making much efficient
power doing it).

On my trainer, even at zero resistance, I can only hit 140
to 145 rpm. How long are your crank arms?

I went back, and if I'm estimating the tire rolling
diameter correctly, 40 mph would actually be about 111 rpm
on my setup.

On the tandem, the cranks are 170mm (though spinning my
other bikes'
172.5s is pretty much the same). I've never measured the RPM
I got on a spin cycle, but I'm sure it's well over 200
(since the flywheel keeps things going around even if
your pedal stroke gets VERY choppy). I was watching my
knees blur in amazement wondering what would happen if
one of them failed somehow (this caused me to slow down
immediately).

My normal cadence is between 90 and 100rpm, so going to 120
isn't really difficult.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of
the $695 ti frame

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:31:07 -0400, David Kerber

ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

Quoted message said:

I once got stuck riding my tandem home in a full-on
tropical storm (Humberto - about 8 years ago IIRC). It
was a ride to remember - 40+mph with the rain hitting us
in the BACK. Cars gave us lots of clearance that
afternoon!

Were you coasting with the wind? I don't think I could spin
my 52x11 up to 40mph even with no wind resistance!

Time for us all to go to 56 x 8 (machine the 8 into the end
of the freehub body).
--
Rick Onanian

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I've never measured the RPM I got on a spin cycle, but I'm
sure it's well over 200 (since the flywheel keeps things
going around even if your pedal stroke gets VERY choppy).
I was watching my knees blur in amazement wondering what
would happen if one of them failed somehow (this caused me
to slow down immediately).

A buddy pulled out of his Time pedal while sprinting at the
track, crashed, and ended up in the hospital for a few days.

YMMV,

Chris Neary [email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could you
ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I loved" -
Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Saturday May 1st I had my best time of the year with a
blazing 15.4 average over 34.1 miles!!! Yes it was the tour-de-
warwick, and the return part of the loop gave me a nice
tailwind for the last 6 miles... Musta been something in the
air that week... D

Rick Onanian said:

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:51:38 -0400, David Kerber

ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

With a little help from a southwest breeze, I set a
personal best for average speed on one of my regular
routes. The wind direction was such that most of the time
when I was going into it, I was going downhill, and on the
return leg I was going up the hills with the wind. That
combination helped me average 17.1 for 14.7 miles. I've
done better in races, but I've never averaged quite that
fast on a routine ride.

Congrats! Now I'll _never_ catch up to you. 😉

Quoted message said:

As I've said before, tailwinds are a beautiful thing!

On Saturday, I rode 33 miles at an average of 14
mph...pretty good for me with so few miles under my belt
this season. Through the whole ride, I felt like I had a
bad headwind, but I must have had a pretty good tailwind
for much of it; at one point, I stopped, and observed the
way the wind was blowing, and it was definitely a headwind.
Resigned to it, but still feeling good from my good ride so
far, I continued into the wind, and found I was still
faster than usual.

So, maybe there IS hope for me.