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  1. Colin Blackburn said:
    Velvet said:

    I'm a bit confused now - you lot are talking inches, I
    was talking teeth ? I should really go and read sheldon's
    site, shouldn't I. I'm sure the answer to my confusion
    lies within it somewhere...

    Sheldon has a calculator. Stick in the teeth (amongst
    other details) and you'll get the inches.

    Colin

    Hmm, then again, I might have to re-count the teeth on the
    smallest front chainring. I counted 28, but shimano website
    reckons 30 for it's tiagra triple.

    If it's really a 30, then the lowest gear is 31.7 inches...

    I'm feeling a lot less wimpy all of a sudden - unless I'm
    deluding myself that it's harder to ride up hills on my bike
    than other peoples...

    Velvet

  2. Velvet said:
    Colin Blackburn said:
    Velvet said:

    I'm a bit confused now - you lot are talking inches, I
    was talking teeth ? I should really go and read
    sheldon's site, shouldn't I. I'm sure the answer to my
    confusion lies within it somewhere...

    Sheldon has a calculator. Stick in the teeth (amongst
    other details) and you'll get the inches.

    Colin

    Yes, I've just found it. Looks like I have 29.5-114, which
    seems to be quite a bit higher than gearings others have
    quoted. I'm less surprised now that I can't sit and spin
    up hills and run out of gears. I actually DO run out of
    gears :-)

    Velvet

    My lowest gears are around 30", so your lowest is not
    that unusual.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Yes, I've just found it. Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be
    quite a bit higher than gearings others have quoted. I'm less surprised
    now that I can't sit and spin up hills and run out of gears. I actually
    DO run out of gears :-)

    My lowest is 39 -- but I do live in Southampton, which is
    really a pretty flat place to live. I never run out of
    gears. Though on the Dorset Coast Audax, I was down to
    about 4kmh at the top of Abbotsbury Hill so I was getting
    pretty close.

  4. Simonb said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I've just found it. Looks like I have 29.5-114, which
    seems to be quite a bit higher than gearings others have
    quoted. I'm less surprised now that I can't sit and spin
    up hills and run out of gears. I actually DO run out of
    gears :-)

    My lowest is 39 -- but I do live in Southampton, which is
    really a pretty flat place to live. I never run out of
    gears. Though on the Dorset Coast Audax, I was down to
    about 4kmh at the top of Abbotsbury Hill so I was getting
    pretty close.

    Yes, you see, I live on the north downs. Half-way up a
    valley/hillside.
    Anywhere from my front door involves hills of one kind or
    another, and
    it's not possible to find a gentle incline without also
    having to deal
    with at least steep hill at some point in the ride, whether
    out, during,
    or return form. And that's going up a steep hill - can't go
    down then
    have a gentle gradient back up, they just don't seem to
    exist around here.

    Velvet

  5. MSeries said:

    My lowest gears are around 30", so your lowest is not that
    unusual.

    It's not unusual[1] to have a 30" gear at the bottom, but
    that doesn't make it right in any particular case. If you're
    not out to go especially fast, aren't auditioning for
    superhero status and have sustained climbing to do with
    luggage (not an unreasonable expectation for trundly touring
    use) then it is a bit high. That profile mirrors my use, and
    I'm very happy to have a 22" bottom gear, even though I
    don't use it *that* much. 30" is somewhere between 3rd and
    4th on mine, I'd be struggling on some of the hills around
    here if my gears stopped there.

    Pete.

    [1] <boom>Doctor, Doctor, I keep finding myself humming "The
    Green Green Grass of Home"; I think it may be Tom Jones
    Syndrome...; I've not heard of that, is it rare?; It's
    not unusual...</boom>
    --
    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext.
    33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
    Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
    dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  6. Peter Clinch said:
    MSeries said:

    My lowest gears are around 30", so your lowest is not
    that unusual.

    It's not unusual[1] to have a 30" gear at the bottom, but
    that doesn't make it right in any particular case.

    I know, when the OP said

    " Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be quite a bit
    higher than gearings others have quoted."

    I wanted to point out to him/her that there ARE others who
    have gearing similar to his/hers. Thats all.

  7. MSeries said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    MSeries said:

    My lowest gears are around 30", so your lowest is not
    that unusual.

    It's not unusual[1] to have a 30" gear at the bottom, but
    that doesn't make it right in any particular case.

    I know, when the OP said

    " Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be quite a
    bit higher than gearings others have quoted."

    I wanted to point out to him/her that there ARE others who
    have gearing similar to his/hers. Thats all.

    :-) That's a hers, ta... I'm intrigued by this gearing
    :thing, so will
    be starting a separate thread to see what gear ranges people
    have, on what sort of bikes, and what sort of terrain.

    Velvet

  8. "Velvet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MSeries said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    MSeries wrote:

    >My lowest gears are around 30", so your lowest is not
    >that unusual.

    It's not unusual[1] to have a 30" gear at the bottom,
    but that doesn't make it right in any particular case.

    I know, when the OP said

    " Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be quite a
    bit higher than gearings others have quoted."

    I wanted to point out to him/her that there ARE others
    who have gearing similar to his/hers. Thats all.


    :-) That's a hers, ta... I'm intrigued by this gearing
    :thing, so will
    be starting a separate thread to see what gear ranges
    people have, on what sort of bikes, and what sort of
    terrain.

    MTBs often have setups that go about 20 to 100, road bikes
    with a 53/39 double tend to go in the region of 45 to 120.
    --
    Mark South Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net <<Tiens!
    Ce poulet a une grenade!

  9. Velvet said:

    Anywhere from my front door involves hills of one kind
    or another, and it's not possible to find a gentle
    incline without also having to deal with at least steep
    hill at some point in the ride, whether out, during, or
    return form.

    My empathetic commiserations.

    --
    Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeith "Wrecked,
    solitary, here."

  10. Velvet [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, you see, I live on the north downs. Half-way up a
    valley/hillside.
    Anywhere from my front door involves hills of one kind or
    another, and
    it's not possible to find a gentle incline without also
    having to deal
    with at least steep hill at some point in the ride, whether
    out, during,
    or return form. And that's going up a steep hill - can't go
    down then
    have a gentle gradient back up, they just don't seem to
    exist around here.

    You could get an MTB and just ride across the fields. ;-)

    Jon

  11. Jon Senior said:

    Velvet [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, you see, I live on the north downs. Half-way up a
    valley/hillside.
    Anywhere from my front door involves hills of one kind or
    another, and
    it's not possible to find a gentle incline without also
    having to deal
    with at least steep hill at some point in the ride,
    whether out, during,
    or return form. And that's going up a steep hill - can't
    go down then
    have a gentle gradient back up, they just don't seem to
    exist around here.

    You could get an MTB and just ride across the fields. ;-)

    Jon

    Nope, not for me, MTB'ing. And besides, around here the
    fields are full of hills too! I've yet to fall off onto
    tarmac proper, so I may change my idea, but for the moment I
    love cycling on roads. Ban all cars and it'd be perfect :-)

    Velvet

  12. Got them on my tandem. They are great. I have poor short
    term memory so they are invaluable. I change gear according
    to cadence.

    The most important reason for having them is that I like
    gadgets........

    --
    replace deadspam with btinternet to reply Tom Anderson
    Leighton Buzzard England

  13. MSeries said:

    I know, when the OP said

    " Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be quite a
    bit higher than gearings others have quoted."

    I wanted to point out to him/her that there ARE others who
    have gearing similar to his/hers. Thats all.

    Plus those of us who replied are likely complete
    sprocketheads who spend hours putting every combination of
    cog available in the entire world and the surrounding spaces
    into our custom gearing spreadsheets and wondering /why/ no-
    one makes an 11.5 tooth cog...

    You wouldn't believe the amount of time it took me to decide
    on an 11-34 cassette for my trike rather than a 9-32 :-)

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  14. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MSeries said:

    I know, when the OP said

    " Looks like I have 29.5-114, which seems to be quite a
    bit higher than gearings others have quoted."

    I wanted to point out to him/her that there ARE others
    who have gearing similar to his/hers. Thats all.

    Plus those of us who replied are likely complete
    sprocketheads who spend hours putting every combination of
    cog available in the entire world and


    the

    Quoted message said:

    surrounding spaces into our custom gearing spreadsheets
    and wondering


    /why/

    Quoted message said:

    no-one makes an 11.5 tooth cog...

    I'm sad to say that I do in fact possess one of these :-(

  15. Mark South said:

    I'm sad to say that I do in fact possess one of these :-(

    A custom gearing spreadsheet or an 11.5 tooth sprocket?

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  16. Quoted message said:

    Hmm, then again, I might have to re-count the teeth on the smallest front chainring.

    It might be easier to clean the chainring and look at the markings. 😉

    d.

  17. Quoted message said:

    :-) That's a hers, ta... I'm intrigued by this gearing:thing, so will be starting a separate thread to see what gear ranges people have, on what sort of bikes, and what sort of terrain.

    My smallest gear is around 40" (42x28). The steepest hill I have ever been up on thsi bike had a 28% sign at the top to warn people on the way down - if there had been a sign at the bottom as well I'd have taken a different route. Fortunately it was only short hill (a few hundred metres) but it still *bloody* hurt.

    d.

  18. davek said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hmm, then again, I might have to re-count the teeth on the
    smallest front chainring.

    It might be easier to clean the chainring and look at the
    markings. 😉

    I thought it would be marked, but I can't see it on the
    smallest ring, and it's really sparkling clean (the bike's
    not yet reached 300 miles out on the roads LOL). Hard to see
    though when it's hidden behind two others which is why I
    ended up counting teeth.

    Any idea exactly where it'd be marked on a set of shimano
    tiagra chainrings?

    Velvet

  19. davek said:


    It might be easier to clean the chainring and look at the
    markings. 😉

    Ah, I've actually found it now. I can't count :-) It *is*
    a 52,42,30.

    Velvet

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