Kinder Scout - route suggestions please

Tim Jackson said:

Bad news: Sue and I are visiting her mother in Macclesfield
next weekend. :-(

Good news: I'm apparently allowed a day off to go for a
walk. I thought maybe Kinder Scout. Route suggestions
please? So far all I've got is maybe drive to Hayfield and
start from somewhere round there.

Ta.

Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn right
at the top and follow the edge!).

You might also consider Shutlingsloe via Macclesfield
Forest, or a pleasant amble around the Danebridge area -
very nice.

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Paul Rooney said:

Tim Jackson said:

Bad news: Sue and I are visiting her mother in
Macclesfield next weekend. :-(

Good news: I'm apparently allowed a day off to go for a
walk. I thought maybe Kinder Scout. Route suggestions
please? So far all I've got is maybe drive to Hayfield and
start from somewhere round there.

Ta.

Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn right
at the top and follow the edge!).

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken Clough
to Edale Cross. Then you can either wander over to Crowden
Tower to have a go at crossing the plateau to Kinder
Downfall or follow the edge via Kinder Low and Cluther
Rocks. Then come down William Clough but keep to the higher
path by the shooting cabin to drop down to the road just
before Hayfield rather than following the track down by the
dam to the road back to town.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

Paul Rooney wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:36:44 +0100....

Quoted message said:

You might also consider Shutlingsloe via
Macclesfield Forest,

Yes, I'll get round to that one of these days.

Quoted message said:

or a pleasant amble around the Danebridge area -
very nice.

I did a walk from Danebridge to the Roaches and back, via
Lud's Church, on a similar mother-in-law visit a couple of
years ago. Very pleasant, as you say. I can't recall the
name of the pub in Danebridge, but I remember it does decent
food. (I didn't eat there on that occasion, but we've been
there with Sue's family before now.)

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Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Paul Rooney said:

Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn
right at the top and follow the edge!).

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
Clough to Edale Cross. [snip]

Two replies in half an hour! Isn't Usenet wonderful?

Thanks chaps. I think I might do it Phil's way round, and
see what the conditions are like on the day before deciding
whether to go bogtrotting across the plateau or just stick
to the edges.

Where's the best place to park on a Bank Holiday weekend? My
map shows one car park in Hayfield itself, and another half
way up the road towards Kinder Reservoir. Or can you just
park on the roadside before you get to that second car park?

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Tim Jackson said:

Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....

Quoted message said:

Paul Rooney said:

Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn
right at the top and follow the edge!).

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
Clough to Edale Cross. [snip]

Two replies in half an hour! Isn't Usenet wonderful?

Thanks chaps. I think I might do it Phil's way round, and
see what the conditions are like on the day before deciding
whether to go bogtrotting across the plateau or just stick
to the edges.

Where's the best place to park on a Bank Holiday weekend?
My map shows one car park in Hayfield itself, and another
half way up the road towards Kinder Reservoir. Or can you
just park on the roadside before you get to that second
car park?

People do park on the roadside but cause congestion, and I
think, but can't be sure, that there are restrictions. The
car parks will be full earlyish on a bank holiday weekend
(though Sat is always quiteter
ime). Phil's way round is better.

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Quoted message said:

Paul Rooney said:

Tim Jackson said:

Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:36:44 +0100, Paul Rooney wrote:
> >
> >Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn
> >right at the top and follow the edge!).
>
> I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
> Clough to Edale Cross. [snip]

Two replies in half an hour! Isn't Usenet wonderful?

Thanks chaps. I think I might do it Phil's way round, and
see what the conditions are like on the day before
deciding whether to go bogtrotting across the plateau or
just stick to the edges.

Where's the best place to park on a Bank Holiday weekend?
My map shows one car park in Hayfield itself, and another
half way up the road towards Kinder Reservoir. Or can you
just park on the roadside before you get to that second
car park?

People do park on the roadside but cause congestion, and I
think, but can't be sure, that there are restrictions. The
car parks will be full earlyish on a bank holiday weekend
(though Sat is always quiteter
ime). Phil's way round is better.

There are lines on the road up Kinder Bank. The car park in
the centre of Hayfield at the Visitor Centre is P&D but not
extortionate, compared to what I'm used to down here
anyway, I presume the other one will be too.

It is. I have not been there for a couple of years but since
they made the car park P&D the roadside parking filled up
before the car park!

There may be restrictions on the roadside parking now but
there were not once you got past the houses (and pub IIRC).

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Tim Jackson wrote

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I can't recall the name of the pub in Danebridge, but I
remember it does decent food.

The Ship ? There's also The Boar at Wildboarclough.

WRT Kinder, the climb up Blackden Brook is by some
considerable margin the best ascent, IME, but you have to be
happy with a little bit of exposure toward the top. Climbing
up the stream when it gets steep is immense fun.

Chris

Paul Rooney said:

Tim Jackson said:

Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:36:44 +0100, Paul Rooney wrote:
>
>Hayfield and William Clough is a popular route (turn
>right at the top and follow the edge!).

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
Clough to Edale Cross. [snip]

Two replies in half an hour! Isn't Usenet wonderful?

Thanks chaps. I think I might do it Phil's way round, and
see what the conditions are like on the day before
deciding whether to go bogtrotting across the plateau or
just stick to the edges.

Where's the best place to park on a Bank Holiday weekend?
My map shows one car park in Hayfield itself, and another
half way up the road towards Kinder Reservoir. Or can you
just park on the roadside before you get to that second
car park?

People do park on the roadside but cause congestion, and I
think, but can't be sure, that there are restrictions. The
car parks will be full earlyish on a bank holiday weekend
(though Sat is always quiteter
ime). Phil's way round is better.

There are lines on the road up Kinder Bank. The car park in
the centre of Hayfield at the Visitor Centre is P&D but not
extortionate, compared to what I'm used to down here anyway,
I presume the other one will be too.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the
"Westminster Gasworks"

Tim Jackson <[email hidden]> wrote

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I did a walk from Danebridge to the Roaches and back, via
Lud's Church, on a similar mother-in-law visit a couple of
years ago. Very pleasant, as you say. I can't recall the
name of the pub in Danebridge, but I remember it does
decent food. (I didn't eat there on that occasion, but
we've been there with Sue's family before now.)

The Ship?

And there's a fiche farm nearby.
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Gordon said:

And there's a fiche farm nearby.

Are they nicer grilled or fried with a little butter ?

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Gordon said:

And there's a fiche farm nearby.

Are they nicer grilled or fried with a little butter ?

Or, if you're not very hungry you can always have a
microfiche!

Regards: Jim Ford

Chris Gilbert wrote on 27 Apr 2004 01:33:35 -0700....

Quoted message said:

WRT Kinder, the climb up Blackden Brook is by some
considerable margin the best ascent, IME, but you have to
be happy with a little bit of exposure toward the top.
Climbing up the stream when it gets steep is immense fun.

<checks map>

Thanks, noted, but I'll be arriving from the opposite
direction so maybe another time.

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Jim Ford wrote on 27 Apr 2004 11:55:46 GMT....

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Quoted message said:

Gordon said:

And there's a fiche farm nearby.

Or, if you're not very hungry you can always have a
microfiche!

With microchips?

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John Laird <[email hidden]> wrote

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Gordon said:

And there's a fiche farm nearby.

Are they nicer grilled or fried with a little butter ?

I used to bake them in foil when I got them from the farm in
the Yorkshire Dales.
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Gordon said:

And there's a fiche farm nearby.

Are they nicer grilled or fried with a little butter ?

Or, if you're not very hungry you can always have a
microfiche!

Regards: Jim Ford

Wondered if anyone would pick up on that. :-)

I remember when it was first introduced, with microfiche
viewers in the office, and the managers saying how much less
storage space it required compared with stacks of line
printer paper.

Then a software support man said "If I have to carry one of
those viewers round every site I visit I'll need a truss -
and you can't scribble mods on them like you can on a paper
printout"!
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Another possible would be to park in Hope on Edale Road,
walk up to Win Hill, then follow the path to Crookstone
Out Moor and up onto the remoter eastern end of Kinder
near Jaggers Clough. Round the south edge for a spell,
then down Ollerbrook Clough. Across the Vale of Edale, up
to Hollins Cross, then follow the ridge (ignoring the
cement works) over Back Tor to Lose Hill, then down to
Hope back to your car.

You could always cut the walk short by heading back down
Jaggers, or if it's not long enough for you get your compass
out and cross the plateau to the north edge. Brilliant!

Lewis

Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....

Quoted message said:

[Kinder Scout]

Quoted message said:

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
Clough to Edale Cross. Then you can either wander over to
Crowden Tower to have a go at crossing the plateau to
Kinder Downfall or follow the edge via Kinder Low and
Cluther Rocks. Then come down William Clough but keep to
the higher path by the shooting cabin to drop down to the
road just before Hayfield rather than following the track
down by the dam to the road back to town.

Did it on Saturday, Phil's way round (more or less).
Excellent weather brought out huge numbers of people coming
up the Pennine Way from Edale and on the southern edge of
the plateau.

I had a play on Edale Rocks, then along the southern edge as
far as Grindslow Knoll, with an out-and-back detour from Pym
Chair to the two cairns which are candidates for the 636m
highest spot. The peat wasn't very squelchy at all, despite
last week's rain. Saw a couple of hares (one still with its
white coat) and lots of grouse while crossing the peat.

From Grindslow Knoll I headed north up the grough system
which feeds Grinds Brook, to Seal Edge on the northern edge
of the plateau. Then west along the edge and navigated a
grough feeding Fair Brook, getting into the Kinder River
system just below Kinder Gates and so to Kinder Downfall.
Very little water in the waterfall - disappointing as I was
hoping for a decent photo, but I suppose you can't have both
that and easy going across the plateau!

No problems parking on the roadside, near where the higher
path recommended by Phil (the Snake Path) comes out.

I had a really good day out. Many thanks to all who replied.

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Tim Jackson said:

Phil Cook wrote on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:48:43 +0100....

Quoted message said:

[Kinder Scout]

Quoted message said:

I prefer to go the other way. Coldwell Clough, Oaken
Clough to Edale Cross. Then you can either wander over to
Crowden Tower to have a go at crossing the plateau to
Kinder Downfall or follow the edge via Kinder Low and
Cluther Rocks. Then come down William Clough but keep to
the higher path by the shooting cabin to drop down to the
road just before Hayfield rather than following the track
down by the dam to the road back to town.

Did it on Saturday, Phil's way round (more or less).
Excellent weather brought out huge numbers of people coming
up the Pennine Way from Edale and on the southern edge of
the plateau.

I had a play on Edale Rocks, then along the southern edge
as far as Grindslow Knoll, with an out-and-back detour
from Pym Chair to the two cairns which are candidates for
the 636m highest spot. The peat wasn't very squelchy at
all, despite last week's rain. Saw a couple of hares (one
still with its white coat) and lots of grouse while
crossing the peat.

From Grindslow Knoll I headed north up the grough system
which feeds Grinds Brook, to Seal Edge on the northern edge
of the plateau. Then west along the edge and navigated a
grough feeding Fair Brook, getting into the Kinder River
system just below Kinder Gates and so to Kinder Downfall.
Very little water in the waterfall - disappointing as I was
hoping for a decent photo, but I suppose you can't have
both that and easy going across the plateau!

No problems parking on the roadside, near where the higher
path recommended by Phil (the Snake Path) comes out.

I had a really good day out. Many thanks to all who
replied.

Sounds like a good day. We covered a few miles of Offa's
Dyke on Monday as part of a longer walk, and didn't meet a
single person all day once we were off the road. Amazing for
a bank holiday.

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Glad you enjoyed the walk, went out Sunday to Edale on the
train and walked up to Hollins Cross, Mam Tor, then along
the head of the valley to the SW shoulder of Kinder near
Kinder Low to come down Jacob's Ladder.

Had a look at the massive air shaft going down into the
train tunnel underneath the moor.

My mate went into the peat up to his groin on Brown Knoll,
took me a few minutes to pull him out. Had a few pints in
Edale village then back to the train, weather was superb,
spent a lot of the day just sun bathing!