waterproof cycling jacket

bpr said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

Also, do you think these features are needed in a
waterproof cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood

Eh.

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* Underarm zippers

Absolutely.

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* Front pockets

Generally not the best. I ride a road bike, so front pockets
in the coat kind of suck.

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* Rear pockets

This is reasonably necessary.

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* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

I carry a trunk bag everywhere, so I've never needed
this. YMMV.

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Originally posted by Bpr
I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good
Gortex cycling jacket.

Also, do you think these features are needed in a waterproof
cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood
* Underarm zippers
* Front pockets
* Rear pockets
* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

Thanks for your input.

bpr

If you are capable enough you can make a jacket quite easily. There are great materials at a store in Seattle WA, USA (they have orders online). My husband is a larger size and it is nearly impossible to find jerseys, jacket etc. that are right for him. As far as the hood, zippers etc. On a Gortex jacket underarm zippers are a must, pockets are always a nice option, the hood you will probably never use unless you are a cyclist from the great NW, even then I rarely used one.
Good luck in your endeavors.

SB

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Quoted message said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

If you ride reasonably vigorously, I wouldn't bother with
Goretex/Activent, it doesn't keep up and is very pricy.

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Also, do you think these features are needed in a
waterproof cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood

Some people like them, I don't.

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* Underarm zippers

Good, venting is the key.

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* Front pockets

I find them handy.

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* Rear pockets

I have these on one jacket, they have a tendency to fill
with water when it rains.

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* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

This can be handy if you dont have any place to store
clothing. I'd rather bungee to a rack, bag, or pack if
I have one.

Another very useful feature on a rain jacket is a 2-way
zipper, it's really nice to open the bottom while keeping
the neck and shoulders sealed.

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* Rear pockets

I have these on one jacket, they have a tendency to fill
with water when it rains.

Really? That's nasty. My cheap-ish REI DWR nylon cycling
jacket (in vividly ugly hi-viz what-the-hell-do-you-mean-you-didn't-see-me-you-
blind-car-driving-left-hooking-weasel yellow-green) has
never had that problem. And it's certainly seen plenty of
rain out here in Seattle.

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Also, do you think these features are needed in a
waterproof cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood

How would this work? You wouldn't want it to go over your
helmet, because when you'd turn your head, you'd see the
inside of the hood, not the traffic. But to wear a hood
under a helmet sounds uncomfortable.

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* Underarm zippers

Needed.

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* Front pockets

Not important -- they aren't that accessible while on the
bike.

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* Rear pockets

One zippered rear pocket is useful.

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* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

Not useful -- I have no problem cramming my jacket into my
handlebar bag -- if totally desperate, I can roll it up and
stick it in a back jersey pocket.

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I have the burley rain jacket. it works pretty well the
older model has chest zippers too so you get good
ventilation. my only real complaint is some water gets past
the zipper. You can make nay non cotton material rainproof
using nikwax. it works great for beading up water on most
things and it is water based.

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On 22 Apr 2004 08:05:30 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,

(bpr) said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

if you want *waterproof* don't buy goretex! in windy
situations, the seams *will* leak.

i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good
ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain
Country(tm).

burley.comdefault.aspxOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

Also, do you think these features are needed in a
waterproof cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood
* Underarm zippers
* Front pockets
* Rear pockets
* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

Thanks for your input.

bpr

There is no such thing as a waterproof cycling jacket in
which you can also cycle comfortably. You must either accept
to get wet from the rain from the outside or accept to get
wet from the inside from your transpiration (like when using
a plastic bag).

Bert

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(bpr) said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

I luv my traditional, cheap, ol' cycling rain cape. Except
when I've gotta take it off to go into a store or something,
and then put it on again while it's still wet <ugh>. It also
stifles the abilty to do hand signals. But in the rain, I'm
more inclined to cautiously do box left turns anyways. For
coolness + dryness, nothing beats it. It also keeps some of
the bike dry-ish -- especially the drive train. One other
minus about rain capes is, they'll drape over handlebar-
mounted lights. The solution is to simply mount your lights
lower than on the handlebar.

The 25 bux for the rain cape is, for me, a better investment
than a hi-tech fabric jacket. Maybe it's something for you
to explore. Or not. It's up to you. But it's an option that
might be worth considering.

good ride, Tom

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bpr said:

* Detachable hood
* Underarm zippers
* Front pockets
* Rear pockets
* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

My new jacket comes with a "rain tail." It deploys down
from the back over the seat, keeping it (and my butt) dry
in wet weather. (Normally it is velcroed out of sight
inside the jacket.)

It seems like a good idea (especially since I do not have
fenders to heep the splatter off my back), though I haven't
had occasion to try it out yet.

Dennis P. Harris said:

On 22 Apr 2004 08:05:30 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,

(bpr) said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as
effective. So I was wondering if anyone has a
recommendation for a good Gortex cycling jacket.

if you want *waterproof* don't buy goretex! in windy
situations, the seams *will* leak.

Good quality Goretex garments have taped/sealed seams which
don't leak.

However, I don't think Goretex is of much value for cycling.
It doesn't breathe enough to make a difference. You'll be
just as sweaty as with a vinyl raincoat. A better solution
is a totally waterproof (and cheaper) fabric with big vents,
such as...

Quoted message said:

i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good
ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain
Country(tm).

burley.comdefault.aspxOpen ↗

On dealing with rain, listen to our friends from the Pacific
Northwest!

Matt O.

Quoted message said:

There is no such thing as a waterproof cycling jacket in
which you can also cycle comfortably. You must either
accept to get wet from the rain from the outside or accept
to get wet from the inside from your transpiration (like
when using a plastic bag).

My burley did pretty good. If I did not have my backpack on
it would have been great. but that was at temps of 55 and
below.any warmer and I usually don't use a jacket. but it
did not have a hood so my neck always got wet.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:51:32 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,

(Tom Keats) said:

The 25 bux for the rain cape is, for me, a better
investment than a hi-tech fabric jacket.

they're useless if it rains a lot, or if it's very windy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good
ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain
Country(tm).

burley.comdefault.aspxOpen ↗

On dealing with rain, listen to our friends from the
Pacific Northwest!

yep (G) ventilation is the real key the more the better.
last years burley coat had breast vents too. I really like
it. I just vary what I wear under it to keep from getting
too hot. the only reason I would sweat was from my backpack
on top of it. portland oregon home of liquid sunshine.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:51:32 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,

(Tom Keats) said:

The 25 bux for the rain cape is, for me, a better
investment than a hi-tech fabric jacket.

they're useless if it rains a lot,

Nope. Mine's endured many Vancouver downpours with nary a
problem. I even prefer to ride than walk in the rain,
because I stay so much drier. Periodic applications of
ScotchGard seems to help a lot. I just wish the neck zipper
was accessible from the inside.

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or if it's very windy.

A 'string' waist belt and hooking the thumb loops onto
the brake levers keeps it quite secure in the wind. In
more horizontal rain, a cheap pair of gaiters keeps my
ankles and shins dry, if I'm doing a grocery run and
wearing long pants. With the vented back, wind actually
assists cooling quite nicely. As for speed - I write that
off in the rain anyway.

good ride, Tom

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Quoted message said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as effective.
So I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a
good Gortex cycling jacket.

I have found that Goretex always breath better than Ultrex,
Texapore or Entrant GII and other breathable waterproof
fabric. While Goretex maybe waterproof, you probably need
to expect some dampness since the fabric will not be quick
to vent with high aerobic exercise, like climbing a hill
with your bike. So what to do??

I own 3 rain jackets. For really bad downpour in the winter
months of the wet coast of Vancouver, I use a Goretex jacket
and will try to maintain my cadence so that, I don't sweat
profusely. For spring and summer time, I use a lighter nylon
jacket that has a coating of DWR (Durable Water Repellent)
and that works great. Both of these jackets have underarm
zippers and back vents built-in, which I considered them
essential, especially when I sweat easily. I am now
experimenting with an Arcteryx Gamma SV softshell jacket for
wet and snowy winter riding this year and it is so far the
best warm and breatheable jacket. This jacket is by no means
waterproof, but it is very water resistant and it is also
damn breatheable, much more so than my 3 ply Goretex. I
never felt wetter in this jacket than with my Goretex, which
I consider the next best thing and it is super wind
resistant, just like my pair of Aerotex gloves!

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Also, do you think these features are needed in a
waterproof cycling jacket:

* Detachable hood

This is not necessary. There is an accessory available from
Sugoi, Pearl Izumi and MEC that is made of Goretex and goes
on to cover the vent holes of your helmet to make it
waterproof. This is more ideal than the jacket hood since it
gives you full side to side vision -- a must if you need to
ride in heavy traffic.

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* Underarm zippers

YES, for me.. Also a plus is the back vent and a pair of
thumb knots. Remember that if you don't have thumb knots,
these vents are useless!! The thumb knots allow air to be
scooped in from under your wrist and the gets circulated
and out these vents. Most people use their Goretex
jackets without the thumb knots and wondered why the
jackets don't breath!

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* Front pockets

Front hidden pockets are useful, especially to store your
keys and money.

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* Rear pockets

I do have it on my jacket. I usually store a couple of
powerbars, but when it rains, it interferes with my back
vent and I don't like that.

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* Built-in pouch to store jacket (with waist strap)

It depends on how many ply Goretex you are buying. Typically
cheapee 2 ply jackets are foldable. The good 3 ply ones are
not as easily foldable, but these are the ones to get if you
want quality and durability. But, if you are not planning to
always cycle in a heavy downpour -- just enough to find
shelter -- you might want to consider getting yourself a
softshell. Softshell jackets are nice, form fitting and the
newer ones are very super water resistant, warm and way more
breatheable than Goretex.

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* Rear pockets

I have these on one jacket, they have a tendency to fill
with water when it rains.

Good Goretex cycling jackets have these as standard
equipment.

1, Rear pocket or pockets with seam taped and laminated
zippers for ultimate water proofness.

2, Rear pocket or pockets come with a rain hood with a
drawstring to keep rain out.

Most Goretex cycling jackets I considered these days are
just junk. More are concerned about flashy looks and
foldability rather than on weather performance.

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Harris said:

On 22 Apr 2004 08:05:30 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc,

(bpr) said:

I need to buy a waterproof (not just windproof) cycling
jacket. My preference is to get Gortex since I've never
found any of the waterproof knock-offs to be as
effective. So I was wondering if anyone has a
recommendation for a good Gortex cycling jacket.

if you want *waterproof* don't buy goretex! in windy
situations, the seams *will* leak.

i recommend the burley rainsuit. waterproof, rugged, good
ventilation. it's the choice of cyclists here in Rain
Country(tm).

burley.comdefault.aspxOpen ↗

Again.. People seemed to make an outright false and
unsubstantiated claims. A good and properly made Goretex
cycling jacket has *ALL* the seams taped. Another feature
that made Arcteryx brand so famous is laminated zippers,
found only on top end jackets and some panniers made by
Arkel. When both are combined, the jacket won't leak.

The problem is, Goretex jackets are hard to sell nowadays,
unlike when it was introduced in the early 80s. Everybody
seemed to have one and if they are properly cared for,
last a long time. So, some companies I found cut corners
to make the jackets "cheaper" and thus give the good name
Goretex a bad name.

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However, I don't think Goretex is of much value for
cycling. It doesn't breathe enough to make a difference.
You'll be just as sweaty as with a vinyl raincoat. A
better solution is a totally waterproof (and cheaper)
fabric with big vents, such as...

It also depends on whether the jacket itself have the
supplied thumb knots or not and if the user of the jacket is
using them properly.

Most jackets don't come with thumb knots, but they are
essential in making the jacket breath better in high aerobic
exercises.

When used properly, they allow openings underneath both of
your wrists and these served as air ducts. As you cycle, air
gets scooped into these ducts and circulate around your
body, carrying body heat away and then out the supplied
vents (underarm and back). The more vents, the better the
circulation. If the circulation is too much, adjust the
vents' opening.

Unfortunately, most people just velcro these up, so how do
you figure air is going to circulate inside your jacket??
Essentially, your jacket becomes an oven and thus the
feeling of dampness from your sweat. Opening these vents up
just serve no purpose whatsoever.

Venting does a fine job to a certain point, but I cycle in
the wet coast of Vancouver and I sweat profusely, my Goretex
jacket has never failed me. I also used it on the Queen
Charlotte Islands, world's rank
#2 as being the wettest and survived.