MTB tyres

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and

whenever

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I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

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back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

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good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

Try asking in alt.mountain-bike. Most riders here are, in
the main, roadies. MTB-ers will (probably) have a better
idea... Good luck, Dave.

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and

whenever

Quoted message said:

I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

Quoted message said:

back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

Quoted message said:

good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

Panaracer fire XC or Continental Vertical pro would be
my recommendation for all purpose tyres that don't clog
too badly.

HTH Russ

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(') said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and whenever I go anywhere
vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and the mud doesn't
come back out of the tread until I've been riding home on
the road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre
that's reasonably light, and will give me good grip in
muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind you get in
Derbyshire :P).

Back in the day the Panaracer Smoke/Dart combination took a
lot of beating. These days the Velociraptor set is a good
alternative. What both sets have in common is that they have
a specialised front tyre and a specialised back tyre. Do not
believe the people who will try to sell you tyres which are
suitable for both front and back. In seriously claggy
conditions no tyre is suitable for both front and back
because the front and back wheels of a mountain bike are
doing very different jobs and have very different needs. The
tread on the front tyre needs to be aligned parallel to the
centreline of the wheel, because it has to resist slipping
sideways; the tread on the back tyre has to be much more at
right angles to the centreline of the wheel, because it's
got to grip and push you forward. You also, in my opinion,
tend to need a fatter tyre on the back because you will run
it at lower pressure when the going gets really claggy in
order to get a good sized contact patch.

Most MTB tyres sold in this country are fundamentally
designed for Californian conditions, where it is *much*
drier. My Cannondale came with a pair of Hutchison Scorpions
which were completely useless on any surface you'll find in
the west of Scotland - fine for desert, I expect, but we
don't have those.

--
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jasmine.org.uk~simonOpen ↗

;; not so much a refugee from reality, more
a bogus ;; asylum seeker

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Dave (') said:

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and

whenever

Quoted message said:

I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

Quoted message said:

back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

Quoted message said:

good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

Try asking in alt.mountain-bike. Most riders here are,
in the main, roadies. MTB-ers will (probably) have a
better idea...

Better still, ask on
<URL:http://www.singletrackworld.com/>. Different
conditions need different tyres, and most of the Merkins
are riding in dramatically drier conditions thant we do.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
jasmine.org.uk~simonOpen ↗

Due to financial constraints, the light at the end
of the tunnel has been switched off.

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and

whenever

Quoted message said:

I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

Quoted message said:

back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

Quoted message said:

good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

I buy velociraptor copy/derivatives in Nelsons - these are
good general purpose tyres for use in Mid Wales. At less
than £14 a pair they are also good value. I put new ones on
my MTB every October whether I need them or not. I once left
it until December because I can be a cheapskate - the nice
new edges made a profound difference. Merlin sell pairs of
real Velociraptors for not too much a pair.

John

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Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and whenever I go anywhere
vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and the mud doesn't
come back out of the tread until I've been riding home on
the road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre
that's reasonably light, and will give me good grip in
muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind you get in
Derbyshire :P).

Derbyshire? We spent a weekend there, it wuz like a hard
rock area to us!

Down 'ere we have mud that builds up on your wheels until
they can't turn without forcing a mud extrusion out between
each side of the wheel and the fork, and when you try to
carry the bike it's now too heavy to lift.

Most good tyre ranges include a pair of mud tyres; they're
all good, but for unclogging you don't want the knobs too
close together. In theory you could try different brands,
and compare notes with other riders, until you find the best
for your conditions - if your conditions are the same all
over your area and don't vary much with the weather.

Down 'ere, the best tyre for riverside mud is useless on
chalky mud and the best for gloopy mud is suicidal in slippy
mud. Don't ask about the smelly greenish sort...

You'll also want a pair of semi-slicks for when the mud
dries up, but it might not do that every year.

--
Sue ];(🙂

Ponies seem practical for knee-deep bridleways.

"Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the bike when they made it AFAIK. These tyres are steel
beaded and

whenever

Quoted message said:

I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

Quoted message said:

back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

Quoted message said:

good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

Panaracer fire XC or Continental Vertical pro would be my
recommendation

for

Quoted message said:

all purpose tyres that don't clog too badly.

HTH Russ

Must admit I use the Conti vertical pro and have only been
caught out once over Cannock Chase. Mind you on a seriously
muddy day over there it is very clay(ee??) and very sticky,
so I don't think anything would be any great use there.
Having said that, they are so specific that you wouldn't
want to be doing too much road riding on them as they wear
down at a fair old rate on tarmac. Cheers, Dave.

"Doki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've currently got Kenda Crosscountry tyres, which are
what Giant stuck on the bike when they made it AFAIK.
These tyres are steel beaded and

whenever

Quoted message said:

I go anywhere vaguely muddy they clog very quickly, and
the mud doesn't

come

Quoted message said:

back out of the tread until I've been riding home on the
road for a few miles. Any ideas on a decent tyre that's
reasonably light, and will give

me

Quoted message said:

good grip in muddy conditions (seem to be the only kind
you get in Derbyshire :P).

Me and my buddies are Panaracer XC Fire Pro converts, good
all-rounders.

Muddy? Derbyshire? Not the Peaks surely? We go to Derbyshire
to get away from the mud, sure there will be a bit in places
over the winter but there is usually more rocky and non-
clinging wet peat than nasty mud. I think you need to review
your routes and over winter avoid any non rocky sections
favoured by 4 x 4 tosspots.

If you want some pukka tyres desinged for mud I have a pair
of old but little used Panaracer Spikes hanging in the
garage you can have for the cost of postage. The only
drawback is that the front one makes riding on paved
surfaces interesting to say the least ;-)
--
Regards, Pete

"Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I think you need to review your routes and over winter
avoid any non rocky sections favoured by 4 x 4 tosspots.

Try the classic Ladybower route as desribed in this months
MBR mag. I prefer to do it in the reverse of their route and
the only muddy bit is the climb from Aston to the Roman road
and possibly a short bit climbing from Fairholmes to
Whinston Tor. If you ride in the direction they describe
don't ride the A57 to the pub, pointless. After rejoining
the A57 turn left at the lights rather than right and re-
enter to the east side of the ressie, before going over the
causeway, then climb on the track that runs parralel to the
A57, you will then pick up their route above the pub.
--
Regards, Pete