Question

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I read everywhere that if you eat too little you will keep
all your fat, starvation mode and all that.

So how come, when someone has a gastric bypass or similar,
they lose

weight

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very quickly? The whole reason for the weightloss is
the drastic

decrease

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in food consumption.

Why can't someone just not eat much, without having the
surgery, and

lose

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alot of weight. I was able to do that as a teenager of
course, but not

now

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in my 40's. But the people I see on TV that has the
gastric bypass are

my

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age or older some times, and they lose weight just fine
from decreased

food

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consumption. Is it perhaps because they don't each much
EVER again?

Can't

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be, because they lose lots of weight right away, in the
first month

even.

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I was just curious why this is. I wondered why you
couldn't achieve the same results without getting cut up,
ya know? Just eat very little and

lose

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lots of weight.

I think the advice about eating too little and not losing
refers to the body slowing down its metabolism when eating
less and not exercising. I think it's a matter of degree
though. Eating almost nothing certainly will result in
weight loss. Weight loss surgery is effective for losing
weight quickly. Eating too much will result in severe pain
and this is a strong incentive. However, the surgery
doesn't guarantee permanent loss. It is still possible to
regain the weight.

The main thing you should be looking at though is how to
lose weight and do it in a healthy way. You can lose weight
fast by starving yourself or getting surgery, but you can
also mess up your health. You're better off reducing your
food intake a little to lose weight slowly. This is more
sustainable and it's not recommended to lose more than 1-2
pounds a week to help make sure your skin can respond
properly to your weight loss.

I'm not speaking as an expert by any means, but I would
think that since you're bypassing a portion of the intestine
(that absorb nutrients), there would be less processing
occuring and less absorbed.

That's my thought on the subject. If anyone else knows more
about it, please correct me.

Julie

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xbOdnaJL9c-rfRvdRVn-
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Quoted message said:

I read everywhere that if you eat too little you will keep
all your fat, starvation mode and all that.

So how come, when someone has a gastric bypass or similar,
they lose

weight

Quoted message said:

very quickly? The whole reason for the weightloss is the
drastic decrease in food consumption.

Why can't someone just not eat much, without having the
surgery, and lose alot of weight. I was able to do that as
a teenager of course, but not

now

Quoted message said:

in my 40's. But the people I see on TV that has the
gastric bypass are my age or older some times, and they
lose weight just fine from decreased

food

Quoted message said:

consumption. Is it perhaps because they don't each much
EVER again?

Can't

Quoted message said:

be, because they lose lots of weight right away, in the
first month even.

I was just curious why this is. I wondered why you
couldn't achieve the same results without getting cut up,
ya know? Just eat very little and

lose

Quoted message said:

lots of weight.

There is one process that bypasses a portion of the
intestine, but several that don't. I'm not questioning which
way is healthiest, just the simple fact that I read you
would lose weight better by eating enough not to go into
starvation mode, yet these guys lose weight very fast, and
are starving themselves outright. They do eat frequent small
meals I guess, maybe that keeps the metabolism going.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:31:35 -0500, "Cheri" <[email hidden]>

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There is one process that bypasses a portion of the
intestine, but several that don't. I'm not questioning
which way is healthiest, just the simple fact that I read
you would lose weight better by eating enough not to go
into starvation mode, yet these guys lose weight very fast,
and are starving themselves outright. They do eat frequent
small meals I guess, maybe that keeps the metabolism going.

Actually, I think you might have it at the end. They are
eating a normal amount of calories (points) which leads to
loss rather than stuffing and overstuffing themselves which
after surgery would be nearly impossible (but not totally).
they are just eating those calories in small portions.

First, yes, those gastric bypass people end up eating not
only way less food, but in a different way. (tiny frequent
meals, supplements...) They either do that forever, or gain
the weight back. You don't hear a lot about the ones who
gain the weight back, but there are plenty. Also, on a very
low calorie diet, some of the weight lost is muscle weight,
which causes the person to have a drop in metabolism, which
means that person AGAIN must eat less for Life if they want
to stay slim. SURE you can eat way less for the rest of your
life and stay thin. Why would anyone Want to? You make a
committment to eat sensibly and exercise and you can eat
WELL for the rest of your life, and stay slim, AND healthy.
If you cut your calories enough to burn up some of your
muscle mass, it is counter productive. The good news is, you
can add the muscle back, even in your 50's (I know this from
experience). Then you can be a normal weight AND eat well.
That is a Good deal.

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xbOdnaJL9c-rfRvdRVn-
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Quoted message said:

I read everywhere that if you eat too little you will keep
all your fat, starvation mode and all that.

So how come, when someone has a gastric bypass or similar,
they lose

weight

Quoted message said:

very quickly? The whole reason for the weightloss is the
drastic decrease in food consumption.

Why can't someone just not eat much, without having the
surgery, and lose alot of weight. I was able to do that as
a teenager of course, but not

now

Quoted message said:

in my 40's. But the people I see on TV that has the
gastric bypass are my age or older some times, and they
lose weight just fine from decreased

food

Quoted message said:

consumption. Is it perhaps because they don't each much
EVER again?

Can't

Quoted message said:

be, because they lose lots of weight right away, in the
first month even.

I was just curious why this is. I wondered why you
couldn't achieve the same results without getting cut up,
ya know? Just eat very little and

lose

Quoted message said:

lots of weight.

I have a co-worker who had the surgery. He barely eats any
thing. Drinks a lot of coffee to keep himself going. He's a
heath disaster waiting to happen. He's lost 150+ pounds in
the matter of months. I can't see how that is healthy in
the long run.

He did say that many discover that they can eat the same
amount of food that they used to. They just never stop
eating all day long. Soon the weight is back again.

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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First, yes, those gastric bypass people end up eating not
only way less food, but in a different way. (tiny frequent
meals, supplements...) They either do that forever, or
gain the weight back. You don't hear a lot

about

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the ones who gain the weight back, but there are plenty.
Also, on a very low calorie diet, some of the weight lost
is muscle weight, which causes

the

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person to have a drop in metabolism, which means that
person AGAIN must

eat

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less for Life if they want to stay slim. SURE you can eat
way less for

the

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rest of your life and stay thin. Why would anyone Want to?
You make a committment to eat sensibly and exercise and
you can eat WELL for the rest of your life, and stay slim,
AND healthy. If you cut your calories enough to burn up
some of your muscle mass, it is counter productive. The
good news is, you can add the muscle back, even in your
50's (I know this from experience). Then you can be a
normal weight AND eat well. That is a

Good

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deal.

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xbOdnaJL9c-rfRvdRVn-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I read everywhere that if you eat too little you will
keep all your fat, starvation mode and all that.

So how come, when someone has a gastric bypass or
similar, they lose

weight

Quoted message said:

very quickly? The whole reason for the weightloss is the
drastic

decrease

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in food consumption.

Why can't someone just not eat much, without having the
surgery, and

lose

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

alot of weight. I was able to do that as a teenager of
course, but not

now

Quoted message said:

in my 40's. But the people I see on TV that has the
gastric bypass are

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

age or older some times, and they lose weight just fine
from decreased

food

Quoted message said:

consumption. Is it perhaps because they don't each much
EVER again?

Can't

Quoted message said:

be, because they lose lots of weight right away, in the
first month

even.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was just curious why this is. I wondered why you
couldn't achieve the same results without getting cut
up, ya know? Just eat very little and

lose

Quoted message said:

lots of weight.

I am not sure but I would rather be fat than cut on, Lee who has had 18 or
so surgeries on her eyes alone
Cheri <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I read everywhere that if you eat too little you will keep
all your fat, starvation mode and all that.

So how come, when someone has a gastric bypass or similar,
they lose

weight

Quoted message said:

very quickly? The whole reason for the weightloss is the
drastic decrease in food consumption.

Why can't someone just not eat much, without having the
surgery, and lose alot of weight. I was able to do that as
a teenager of course, but not

now

Quoted message said:

in my 40's. But the people I see on TV that has the
gastric bypass are my age or older some times, and they
lose weight just fine from decreased

food

Quoted message said:

consumption. Is it perhaps because they don't each much
EVER again?

Can't

Quoted message said:

be, because they lose lots of weight right away, in the
first month even.

I was just curious why this is. I wondered why you
couldn't achieve the same results without getting cut up,
ya know? Just eat very little and

lose

Quoted message said:

lots of weight.