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When iron is supplemented the cognitive performance inproves:
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Ever heard of "Hemochromatosis" in men?
No man should take iron unless the levels are tested first.
Otherwise ... Bring back bloodletting! <or leeches>
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If the disease is not detected early and treated, iron may
accumulate in body tissues and may eventually lead to
serious problems such as
a.. arthritis
b.. liver disease, including an enlarged liver, cirrhosis,
cancer, and liver failure
c.. damage to the pancreas, possibly causing diabetes
d.. heart abnormalities, such as irregular heart rhythms
or congestive heart failure
e.. impotence
f.. early menopause
g.. abnormal pigmentation of the skin, making it look
gray or bronze
h.. thyroid deficiency
i.. damage to the adrenal gland
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Quoted message said:When iron is supplemented the cognitive performance
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Tom, is that you? As the research was with those who were
measured for iron stores and found low, you concern is ill
founded. One can, and I did, post the equally long list of
problems that go with low iron. The page to which you direct
us is for those whave a genetic disease which causes iron to
be stored in abnormally high levels. Leaches are back, used
to remove excess blood in reattached limbs etc. where full
blood flow is not yet reestablished.
Quoted message said:No man should take iron unless the levels are tested first.
Otherwise ... Bring back bloodletting! <or leeches>digestive.niddk.nih.govhemochromatoOpen ↗
sis/index.htmIf the disease is not detected early and treated, iron may
accumulate in body tissues and may eventually lead to
serious problems such asa.. arthritis
b.. liver disease, including an enlarged liver,
cirrhosis, cancer, and liver failurec.. damage to the pancreas, possibly causing diabetes
d.. heart abnormalities, such as irregular heart rhythms
or congestive heart failuree.. impotence
f.. early menopause
g.. abnormal pigmentation of the skin, making it look
gray or bronzeh.. thyroid deficiency
i.. damage to the adrenal gland
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No, I'm not Tom. I'm a cautious researcher.
Note that the research tested for low iron levels first.
People need to be cautioned to do this.
Hemochromotosis (call it iron overload if you wish) is not
necessarily a genetic disease. Males are much more
susceptible to this problem, since they don't have the
natural blood replacement experienced in females. If you
give blood every other week, then it isn't a problem.
It just doesn't make sense to arbitrarily take iron without
knowing the condition of the individual first. Reading your
posts, I get the impression that you are trying to sell us
on iron supplementation. Yes, an individual with low iron
should use supplementation. But you will only know that by
testing first.
GT
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Quoted message said:
Tom, is that you? As the research was with those who were
measured
for
Quoted message said:iron stores and found low, you concern is ill founded. One
can, and I did, post the equally long list of problems
that go with low
iron.
Quoted message said:The page to which you direct us is for those whave a
genetic disease
which
Quoted message said:causes iron to be stored in abnormally high levels.
Leaches are
back,
Quoted message said:used to remove excess blood in reattached limbs etc.
where full
blood flow
Quoted message said:is not yet reestablished.
Quoted message said:No man should take iron unless the levels are
tested first.
Otherwise
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:... Bring back bloodletting! <or leeches>
digestive.niddk.nih.govhemochromatoOpen ↗
sis/index.h
tm
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:
If the disease is not detected early and treated,
iron may
accumulate
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:in body tissues and may eventually lead to serious
problems such asa.. arthritis
b.. liver disease, including an enlarged liver,
cirrhosis,
cancer,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:and liver failure
c.. damage to the pancreas, possibly causing diabetes
d.. heart abnormalities, such as irregular heart
rhythms or congestive heart failuree.. impotence
f.. early menopause
g.. abnormal pigmentation of the skin, making it look
gray or
bronze
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:h.. thyroid deficiency
i.. damage to the adrenal gland
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inproves:eurekalert.orgfoasOpen ↗
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I have done a bit of reading on the disorder and have never
seen it described other then a genetic disorder. I don't
advocate iron supplements unless a medical sort has found by
test there is some reason to do so, which can as easily be
made up by eating liver etc. just as readily. I don't agree
that there is so much iron overload as to make a practice,
again without the guidence of a medical sort, as a routine
thing one does when the spirit moves; by bloodletting. Is
that you Tom? I did a mini tutural on iron status, it's
disorders, symptoms of same, causes of same, and treatment
of same a couple of weeks ago. It covered the entire range
of info on the topic from anemic to overload. If you ain't
Tom, in which case you know full well why the original was
posted, most often I post iron related info as a counter
balance to one who does so compulsivly in support of a home
grown theory about iron and disease and diet and other bits
and pieces of an interesting but otherwise toss away notion.
Quoted message said:Hemochromotosis (call it iron overload if you wish) is not
necessarily a genetic disease. Males are much more
susceptible to this problem, since they don't have the
natural blood replacement experienced in females. If you
give blood every other week, then it isn't a problem.It just doesn't make sense to arbitrarily take iron without
knowing the condition of the individual first. Reading your
posts, I get the impression that you are trying to sell us
on iron supplementation. Yes, an individual with low iron
should use supplementation. But you will only know that by
testing first.GT
<[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
net.com...Quoted message said:
Tom, is that you? As the research was with those who were
measured
forQuoted message said:iron stores and found low, you concern is ill founded.
One can, and I did, post the equally long list of
problems that go with low
iron.Quoted message said:The page to which you direct us is for those whave a
genetic disease
whichQuoted message said:causes iron to be stored in abnormally high levels.
Leaches are
back,Quoted message said:used to remove excess blood in reattached limbs etc.
where full
blood flowQuoted message said:is not yet reestablished.
Quoted message said:No man should take iron unless the levels are tested
first.
OtherwiseQuoted message said:Quoted message said:... Bring back bloodletting! <or leeches>
digestive.niddk.nih.govhemochromatOpen ↗
osis/index.h
tmQuoted message said:Quoted message said:
If the disease is not detected early and treated,
iron may
accumulateQuoted message said:Quoted message said:in body tissues and may eventually lead to serious
problems such asa.. arthritis
b.. liver disease, including an enlarged liver,
cirrhosis,
cancer,Quoted message said:Quoted message said:and liver failure
c.. damage to the pancreas, possibly causing diabetes
d.. heart abnormalities, such as irregular heart
rhythms or congestive heart failuree.. impotence
f.. early menopause
g.. abnormal pigmentation of the skin, making it look
gray or
bronzeQuoted message said:Quoted message said:h.. thyroid deficiency
i.. damage to the adrenal gland
-------------------------
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> When iron is supplemented the cognitive performance
> inproves:
>
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Whatever...
Do your thing.
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Quoted message said:
I have done a bit of reading on the disorder and have
never seen it described other then a genetic disorder. I
don't advocate iron supplements unless a medical sort has
found by test there is some
reason
Quoted message said:to do so, which can as easily be made up by eating liver
etc. just
as
Quoted message said:readily. I don't agree that there is so much iron
overload as to
make a
Quoted message said:practice, again without the guidence of a medical sort, as
a routine
thing
Quoted message said:one does when the spirit moves; by bloodletting. Is that
you Tom?
I did
Quoted message said:a mini tutural on iron status, it's disorders, symptoms
of same,
causes of
Quoted message said:same, and treatment of same a couple of weeks ago. It
covered the
entire
Quoted message said:range of info on the topic from anemic to overload. If
you ain't
Tom, in
Quoted message said:which case you know full well why the original was
posted, most
often I
Quoted message said:post iron related info as a counter balance to one
who does so
compulsivly
Quoted message said:in support of a home grown theory about iron and disease
and diet
and
Quoted message said:other bits and pieces of an interesting but otherwise
toss away
notion.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Hemochromotosis (call it iron overload if you wish) is
not
necessarily
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:a genetic disease. Males are much more susceptible
to this
problem,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:since they don't have the natural blood replacement
experienced in females. If you give blood every other
week, then it isn't a
problem.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:
It just doesn't make sense to arbitrarily take iron
without knowing the condition of the individual first.
Reading your posts, I get
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:impression that you are trying to sell us on iron
supplementation. Yes, an individual with low iron should
use supplementation. But
you
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:will only know that by testing first.
GT
<[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
net.com...Quoted message said:
Tom, is that you? As the research was with those
who were
measured
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:for
Quoted message said:iron stores and found low, you concern is ill founded.
One can, and I did, post the equally long list of
problems that go with
low
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:iron.
Quoted message said:The page to which you direct us is for those whave a
genetic
disease
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:which
Quoted message said:causes iron to be stored in abnormally high levels.
Leaches are
back,Quoted message said:used to remove excess blood in reattached limbs etc.
where full
blood flowQuoted message said:is not yet reestablished.
>No man should take iron unless the levels are tested
>first.
OtherwiseQuoted message said:>... Bring back bloodletting! <or leeches>
>Quoted message said:digestive.niddk.nih.govhemochromatOpen ↗
osis/index.
h
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:tm
Quoted message said:>
>If the disease is not detected early and treated,
>iron may
accumulateQuoted message said:>in body tissues and may eventually lead to serious
>problems such
as
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>
> a.. arthritis
>
>
> b.. liver disease, including an enlarged liver,
> cirrhosis,
cancer,Quoted message said:>and liver failure
>
>
> c.. damage to the pancreas, possibly causing
> diabetes
> d.. heart abnormalities, such as irregular heart
> rhythms or congestive heart failure
>
>
> e.. impotence
>
>
> f.. early menopause
>
>
> g.. abnormal pigmentation of the skin, making it
> look gray or
bronzeQuoted message said:>
>
> h.. thyroid deficiency
>
>
> i.. damage to the adrenal gland
>
>
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>> When iron is supplemented the cognitive performance
>> inproves:
>>
>>
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