Durable 650c tires?

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My main road bike has 650c wheels. (I'm small) However, my tires aren'=

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holding up to winter riding with the gravel and junk on the road. I'm currently using Tri-comps.
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these wheels, so I don't want ultra-light. I'd just like to put on som=

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miles without getting flats.

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All,

My main road bike has 650c wheels. (I'm small) However, my tires aren't holding up to winter
riding with the gravel and junk on the road. I'm currently using Tri-comps.

Anybody have suggestions for a more durable 650c tire? I'm not racing

with

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these wheels, so I don't want ultra-light. I'd just like to put on some miles without
getting flats.

Volume is your best defense. Michelin's newer 650-23 is significantly bigger than their 650-20. If
there were a 650-25 I would heartily recommend it.

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All,

My main road bike has 650c wheels. (I'm small) However, my tires aren't holding up to winter
riding with the gravel and junk on the road. I'm currently using Tri-comps.

Anybody have suggestions for a more durable 650c tire? I'm not racing

with

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these wheels, so I don't want ultra-light. I'd just like to put on some miles without getting
flats.

Volume is your best defense. Michelin's newer 650-23 is significantly bigger than their 650-20. If
there were a 650-25 I would heartily recommend it.

Vredstien Fortezza Tri Comps. They are listed as 650 x 23 but seem rather largish. I have used them
last year on my 650 wheeled bike. Nice ride. No flats in about 2800 miles (mostly commuting in and
out of Boston - well known for crappy roads).

I'm not particularly small (5'9" 155lbs), so I expect these tires will last at least as
well for you.

Harvey

Thank you Sheldon!

-simon

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Volume is your best defense. Michelin's newer 650-23 is significantly bigger than their 650-20. If
there were a 650-25 I would heartily recommend it.

Andrew, I'm currently using the Vredestein Fortenzza tri-comps. These are supposed to be 23 wide
already. I agree that the wider the tire the better. I will have less pressure on any one piece of
the tire, leading to less punctures. However, I don't believe volume of air has anything to do with
puncture flats. (it might help pinch flats, but that's not what I'm getting. Can you help explain
this better?

thanks! -simon

"Harvey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Vredstien Fortezza Tri Comps. They are listed as 650 x
23 but seem

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rather largish. I have used them last year on my 650 wheeled bike. Nice ride. No flats in about
2800 miles (mostly commuting in and out of Boston - well known for crappy roads).

Harvey,

I'm already using the Tri-comps. I usually run them at 140psi to avoid pinch flats. How high do you
run yours?

thanks, simon

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My main road bike has 650c wheels. (I'm small) However, my tires

aren't

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holding up to winter riding with the gravel and junk on the road. I'm currently using
Tri-comps.

Anybody have suggestions for a more durable 650c tire? I'm not racing

with

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these wheels, so I don't want ultra-light. I'd just like to put on

some

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miles without getting flats.

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Volume is your best defense. Michelin's newer 650-23 is significantly bigger than their 650-20.
If there were a 650-25 I would heartily recommend it.

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Vredstien Fortezza Tri Comps. They are listed as 650 x 23 but seem rather largish. I have used
them last year on my 650 wheeled bike. Nice ride. No flats in about 2800 miles (mostly commuting
in and out of Boston - well known for crappy roads).

I'm not particularly small (5'9" 155lbs), so I expect these tires will last at least as well
for you.

OK, but Sheldon found the larger 28mm tire and posted it here already.
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I'm currently using the Vredestein Fortenzza tri-comps. These are supposed to be 23 wide already.
I agree that the wider the tire the better. I will have less pressure on any one piece of the
tire, leading to less punctures. However, I don't believe volume of air has anything to do with
puncture flats. (it might help pinch flats, but that's not what I'm getting. Can you help explain
this better?

thanks! -simon

My experience has been that I get very few puncture flats in general (maybe 1 every 5000 miles -
usually in the winter). I believe this mainly has to do with keeping half an eye out on what I am
about to ride over (training imposed by years of riding cheapish tubulars when I was a junior and
could not afford better). Maybe you just need to get more used to glancing at the road 10 feet in
fornt of you every second or 2.

Stay Inflated....Harvey

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"Harvey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Vredstien Fortezza Tri Comps. They are listed as 650
x 23 but seem

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rather largish. I have used them last year on my 650 wheeled bike. Nice ride. No flats in about
2800 miles (mostly commuting in and out of Boston - well known for crappy roads).

Harvey,

I'm already using the Tri-comps. I usually run them at 140psi to avoid pinch flats. How high do
you run yours?

thanks, simon

Typically 120psi, but I am not that careful about checking the pressure regularly. By the time I
notice they are a bit soft they have less than 100psi in them.

Harvey

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help pinch flats, but that's not what I'm getting.

Someone swore by either tire rubbers or Mr. Toughie, i forgot which, so I use both, which seemed to
help a lot.

(Tire scrapers hold bent coathanger-like wire lightly aganst, or very near, the tire's riding
surface, where it passes between the fork, or seatstays. If just near tread, as I've resorted to,
then, after passing broken glass on the road, I reach down and push each scraper against the tire
for about a tire revolution, to roll out glass shards before they get worked farther in toward the
tube, by each road contact of that tire section. I was able to fit a pair around fenders, after a
ridiculous effort.)

Do you regularly bike by a place where kids break bottles? I knew kids that would aim at roadside
signs while driving and drinking weekends. Maybe there's one particularly bad section you could
avoid. (Frat Row).

Forester mentions regularly picking glass shards out of the tread with an awl or knife. I've
done this.

I always got more flats when my tread was worn down.

Brian Cady