Post-hill recovery?

Well first, I don't ride like that. i beat a tough hill the
same way the cooter beat the hare. I sneak up it, without
the burn and recover what little I did use so I can beat the
next hill. And the next...

and the next.

the next...

and so on.

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"May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear
for the hills!"

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:34:42 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

In your case, wait a couple of days. Do it again. A couple
of more days, then again.... In a few weeks you'll barely
notice the hill 🙂

Sounds like you are simply not in shape for quick recovery
from such an effort. Go slow tomorrow. The more you push
yourself like you did today, the easier it will be the
next time.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I stood up. I even upshifted.

Then I huffed...

And I puffed...

And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

Which hill was that? One I know?

Last night, on what was supposed to be a short recovery
ride, I came across the URI Women's Rowing team running
repeats up and back down Torrey Rd. That gave me the bad
idea to do the same thing on my bike, so I did 2 rounds up
and down it. I did want to see how my smaller cassette would
work, and it was ok; I could go up in the 30x21 if I really
pushed hard, but did most of it in the 30x23. I wouldn't
want to try that hill at the end of a long ride, though...

Quoted message said:

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my
lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely
had the ability to stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn
for 5 or 10 minutes while the burn in my legs competed
with the burn in my lungs.

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10
meter) long, barely up hill, unable to go. I tried to go,
and almost fell in a deep, paved drainage ditch. I had to
stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a hill that I
could roll a bowling ball up.

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Take a long flat to recover. It usually takes me 2 or 3
times as long to recover as the climb was.

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Rick Onanian said:

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

by forgetting to pedal and having my upper body thrust into
the stem. no freewheel, no freewheel. bad dave. bad dave.
well, that hasn't happened in years.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

Rick Onanian wrote:

{most excellent story snipped}

Quoted message said:

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Ambulance ride?

Going in small circles for 45 minutes?

Vomitting good for shaping abs?

Will let you know if I ever do?

Bill "sitter 'n a spinner" S.

Rick Onanian said:

I stood up. I even upshifted.

Then I huffed...

And I puffed...

And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my
lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely
had the ability to stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn
for 5 or 10 minutes while the burn in my legs competed
with the burn in my lungs.

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10
meter) long, barely up hill, unable to go. I tried to go,
and almost fell in a deep, paved drainage ditch. I had to
stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a hill that I
could roll a bowling ball up.

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
--
Rick Onanian

I recover by heading to the nearest pub for a beer.

Pete

Rick Onanian said:

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my
lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean....

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass....

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Well, the best thing to do is not blow your wad on the hill
in the first place. If you have decided to "pop the cork" on
a hill, pick a gear that lets you maintain a reasonable
cadence. If you're forced to stand the whole climb, you're
going to cook your legs, and legs take a lot longer to
recover than lungs.

But assuming you've succumbed to the moment, and your legs
are now quivering masses of jello, the only thing you can do
is slow down and spin until they are ready to go again.
Recovery can take several minutes to a few days.

I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to
avoid muscle fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date,
about 10,000' behind my target. If my legs get cooked,
I'll have to lay off the hills for a few days and fall
further behind my quota.
--
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Quoted message said:

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Since it's springtime, I have been feeling obliged to take
the tough hill on the way home, rather than do the staircase
of Eastgate Way, which is hard enough, but has little flat
bits to catch your breath on, before the next
climb.

There's a long light at the top, and it's there that I
usually recover. I shed whatever jacket I was wearing, slurp
water, and wait for the green.

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Claire Petersky said:

and wait for the green.

is that like waiting for tunnel vision to go away? my visual
artifacts are gray not green. green might describe the
vomit, tho.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:54:47 -0700, Terry Morse <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to avoid
muscle fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date, about
10,000' behind my target. If my legs get cooked, I'll have
to lay off the hills for a few days and fall further behind
my quota.

Wow Terry. I do about 400K/yr., but if you have done almost
300K so far that puts you on track to do 900K or so for the
year. Phew! Bicycling had some stat that some twit claims to
hold the record for most climbing in a year at something
like 415K or something. Bunk if you ask me. Anyway, I guess
the hip is doing OK this year. How many times up Page
Mill/week? How many miles so far this year? I am nearing
200K on climbing, at just about 2500 miles. I try to keep
things so I do 7000-8000 ft of climbing per 100 miles.
Tomorrow I am going over to Felton to escort a friend over
to this side of the hill; will route to do 8000 ft or so and
90-100 mile so close to average.

- rick 'climbing OLH and Page Mill once per week is the
goal'

Quoted message said:

I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to
avoid muscle fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date,
about 10,000' behind my target. If my legs get cooked,
I'll have to lay off the hills for a few days and fall
further behind my quota.

Dang Terry, people accuse me of doing nothing but climbing,
but you're in a whole different league! Of course, you
probably put in *way* more miles than I do. A word of advice-
if you want to keep up the miles, don't go into the retail
bicycle business. It's tough to ride as much as you want
when you're working 80+ hours/week and trying to see what
your family looks like once in a while.

286,098 feet. Oh wait, that was nearly two hours ago... what
are you up to now?

Dang dang dang. I'll be very lucky if I hit 400,000 for the
entire year. You da man!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Quoted message said:

Rick Onanian said:

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in
my lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean....

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass....

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

Well, the best thing to do is not blow your wad on the
hill in the first place. If you have decided to "pop the
cork" on a hill, pick a gear that lets you maintain a
reasonable cadence. If you're forced to stand the whole
climb, you're going to cook your legs, and legs take a lot
longer to recover than lungs.

But assuming you've succumbed to the moment, and your legs
are now quivering masses of jello, the only thing you can
do is slow down and spin until they are ready to go again.
Recovery can take several minutes to a few days.

I do a lot of climbing and have to be very careful to
avoid muscle fatigue. 286,098 vertical ft. year-to-date,
about 10,000' behind my target. If my legs get cooked,
I'll have to lay off the hills for a few days and fall
further behind my quota.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA bike.terrymorse.combike.terrymorse.comOpen ↗

Rick Onanian said:

I stood up. I even upshifted.

Then I huffed...

And I puffed...

And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

Oh oh. You've done it. Now you're addicted.

Quoted message said:

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my
lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely
had the ability to stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn
for 5 or 10 minutes while the burn in my legs competed
with the burn in my lungs.

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10
meter) long, barely up hill, unable to go. I tried to go,
and almost fell in a deep, paved drainage ditch. I had to
stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a hill that I
could roll a bowling ball up.

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

I _don't_ stand there at the top. I roll on, spinning
lightly. I think it may help flush the lactic acid out of my
muscles, or someting. But I don't want to cool down.

And pacing is important. The only time I usually ride to
absolute exhaustion is at the end of a time trial. And I
don't do those any more.

So I'd advise riding just a tad easier (say, one gear lower
on that particular hill) and keep moving.

But hey - Congratulations!

--
-------------+ Frank Krygowski [To reply, omit what's
between "at" and "cc"]

Rick Onanian said:

I stood up. I even upshifted.

Then I huffed...

And I puffed...

And I KICKED THAT HILL'S ASS!

After cresting the hill, if there was any usable air in my
lungs, I would have screamed like Howard Dean. I scarcely
had the ability to stand. I stood there on somebody's lawn
for 5 or 10 minutes while the burn in my legs competed with
the burn in my lungs.

A flat/slightly downhill mile later, a short, shallow
ascent kicked my ass. I stood halfway up a 40 foot (10
meter) long, barely up hill, unable to go. I tried to go,
and almost fell in a deep, paved drainage ditch. I had to
stand there for at least 5 minutes, for a hill that I could
roll a bowling ball up.

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?
--
Rick Onanian

Beat it, but don't beat so hard on it. Bernie

Quoted message said:

I recover by heading to the nearest pub for a beer.

Pete

My kind of riding partner!

Rick Warner said:

Wow Terry. I do about 400K/yr., but if you have done
almost 300K so far that puts you on track to do 900K or so
for the year. Phew!

Yeah, I'm shooting for 1M ft. for the year. I got a slow
start in January, so I need to pick it up in the dry months.

Quoted message said:

Bicycling had some stat that some twit claims to hold the
record for most climbing in a year at something like 415K
or something. Bunk if you ask me.

Somebody told me about that "record". What a joke. Several
Western Wheelers had more than that last year on group rides
alone, myself included. With one Wednesday ride and one
Saturday ride weekly, one can tally up about 500K.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I guess the hip is doing OK this year.

Not bad at all, thanks. The ski trips left it a bit tender
for a week or so, but nothing to write a song about.

Quoted message said:

How many times up Page Mill/week?

Maybe only once or twice. I don't do Page Mill that often,
since it doesn't lead easily to another close-by hill. I
like to do hill combinations. Old La Honda, Kings, Alpine
West is a nice set with almost no flat miles in between.

Quoted message said:

How many miles so far this year?

3,723.

Quoted message said:

Tomorrow I am going over to Felton to escort a friend over
to this side of the hill; will route to do 8000 ft or so
and 90-100 mile so close to average.

Sounds nice, better than tomorrow's Primavera Century. Do
you want some company?
--
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Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Dang dang dang. I'll be very lucky if I hit 400,000 for
the entire year. You da man!

I'm sure you could still whip my tail in a contest of speed.
It's like they always say: if you can't go fast, go far.
--
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dang dang dang. I'll be very lucky if I hit 400,000 for
the entire

year.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You da man!

I'm sure you could still whip my tail in a contest of
speed. It's like they always say: if you can't go
fast, go far.

Not so sure of that. I'm getting much better at longer
distances, worse at speed and absolute power. I used to
worship the really steep sections, and could often ride away
from people a lot lighter. Not anymore! Last year will have
been the last time for me doing Sonora Pass on a 39/27.
Originally I'd assumed that meant I'd be on a triple, but
with DuraAce 10 triple now scheduled for 2006, I'l probably
go for an FSA compact with a
34/27. That ought to buy me a few years...

As usual, I'm scheduled for Sonora Pass on the last Sunday
in June. Between now and then I've got the Grizzly Peak
century, but really nothing with really nasty stuff. I'm
thinking about doing Ebbetts as soon as it's open. The clock
is running; I'll be in France for the latter part of the
TDF, at during one four-day period, will possibly be
climbing Alpe d'Huez each day at the end of a ride (we'll be
staying up at the top). I really enjoy that climb, but we'll
see what I think of it on days 3 & 4...

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:34:42 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

wrote in message : said:

How do you recover after beating a tough hill?

By riding down the other side of it :-)

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Mike Jacoubowsky said:

As usual, I'm scheduled for Sonora Pass on the last Sunday
in June. Between now and then I've got the Grizzly Peak
century, but really nothing with really nasty stuff. I'm
thinking about doing Ebbetts as soon as it's open.

Keep me in mind for the Sonora Ride, I'm pretty sure I
can make it. Ebbetts when it opens sounds like fun, too.
I'm planning a Sierra passes trip the weekend of June
12th, also. I want to see how many passes I can cram
into two days.

The Sequoia is Sunday, June 6th (when your shop is closed).
The 200k is going to be hilly. Preliminary estimates put it
at 10,540 ft.
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