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  1. I have a pair of CX-7 pedals that are making some scraping
    noises. I took them off, opened them up and cleaned and
    re-greased the bearings. I could not figure out how to
    remove the needle bearings in the end of the spindle.
    Alas, still making the noises, so I'd like to try to
    replace the bearings.

    Where can I get parts for these pedals, and more
    importantly, where can I get service information. I have
    the original paperwork for the pedals, but they are not
    detailed enough.

    I am looking for the kind of diagrams Shimano makes for
    their parts.

    John

  2. "John Rees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have a pair of CX-7 pedals that are making some scraping
    noises. I took them off, opened them up and cleaned and
    re-greased the bearings. I could not figure out how to
    remove the needle bearings in the end of the spindle.
    Alas, still making the noises, so I'd like to try to
    replace the bearings.

    Where can I get parts for these pedals, and more
    importantly, where can I get service information. I have
    the original paperwork for the pedals,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    they are not detailed enough.

    I am looking for the kind of diagrams Shimano makes for
    their parts.

    John


    Hi John -

    I'm currently "down" on Look pedals. I have three pair of
    them.

    The oldest are the first pair of clipless pedals I ever had
    and are some 10 or 12 years old; and the newest are A3.1
    Looks. I really like riding them, but servicing them seems
    an excersize in futility.

    First off, how did you get them apart? I cannot find a tool
    to fit the retainer that holds the spindle in. I was able
    to get one A3.1 pedal disassembled using a PVC connector
    that fit snugly over the retainer. The retainer was not in
    so tight that it would not come out by hand. The other
    pedal just wouldn't budge. My complaint was that the pedal
    was making a scraping/clicking noise as yours was. Wouldn't
    you know it? The pedal I could get apart was not the one
    making noise.

    Once I got the spindle out I found that I could neither get
    the needle bearings out, nor could I get the sealed bearing
    off of the spindle. It is pressed in place. There is a soft
    clip that prevents that bearing from coming off should it
    work loose, but it does not retain the bearing per se.

    This led me to try and dissasemble my other pedals. My
    oldest pair have a cap at the opposite end which, when
    removed, shows a nylock nut on the end of the spindle.
    Fine, just remove that and service the pedal. Wrong, it's
    heavily staked in place. Something would surely get wrecked
    trying to remove
    it.

    On the newer pedals it looked to me like you would need to
    have a specific bearing puller to grab the far side of the
    needle bearing cage and pull it out. I did not try modestly
    heating the pedal body and attempting to draw it out with
    any of the tools that I have that might have been pressed
    into such service. I merely filled the pedal body with
    grease and put it back together.

    My impression, looking at the three pedal sets that I have,
    is that Look has a "not user serviceable" approach to their
    products. Seems a pity for pedals that sell for as much as
    Looks do. Shimano gives you a tool with your pedals so that
    you can take them appart and service them. At least they
    used to - haven't bought any Shimano pedals in a few years.
    Next time I'm in need of road pedals I'll likely be looking
    at Shimanos....

    Regards,

    Tom

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    "John Rees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have a pair of CX-7 pedals that are making some scraping
    noises. I took them off, opened them up and cleaned and
    re-greased the bearings. I could not figure out how to
    remove the needle bearings in the end of the spindle.
    Alas, still making the noises, so I'd like to try to
    replace the bearings. Where can I get parts for these
    pedals, and more importantly, where can I get service
    information. I have the original paperwork for the pedals,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    they are not detailed enough. I am looking for the kind of
    diagrams Shimano makes for their parts.

    Tom Schmitz said:

    I'm currently "down" on Look pedals. I have three pair
    of them.

    The oldest are the first pair of clipless pedals I ever
    had and are some 10 or 12 years old; and the newest are
    A3.1 Looks. I really like riding them, but servicing them
    seems an excersize in futility.

    First off, how did you get them apart? I cannot find a
    tool to fit the retainer that holds the spindle in. I was
    able to get one A3.1 pedal disassembled using a PVC
    connector that fit snugly over the retainer. The retainer
    was not in so tight that it would not come out by hand.
    The other pedal just wouldn't budge. My complaint was that
    the pedal was making a scraping/clicking noise as yours
    was. Wouldn't you know it? The pedal I could get apart was
    not the one making noise.

    Once I got the spindle out I found that I could neither
    get the needle bearings out, nor could I get the sealed
    bearing off of the spindle. It is pressed in place.
    There is a soft clip that prevents that bearing from
    coming off should it work loose, but it does not retain
    the bearing per se.

    This led me to try and dissasemble my other pedals. My
    oldest pair have a cap at the opposite end which, when
    removed, shows a nylock nut on the end of the spindle.
    Fine, just remove that and service the pedal. Wrong, it's
    heavily staked in place. Something would surely get
    wrecked trying to remove
    it.

    On the newer pedals it looked to me like you would need to
    have a specific bearing puller to grab the far side of the
    needle bearing cage and pull it out. I did not try
    modestly heating the pedal body and attempting to draw it
    out with any of the tools that I have that might have been
    pressed into such service. I merely filled the pedal body
    with grease and put it back together.

    My impression, looking at the three pedal sets that I
    have, is that Look has a "not user serviceable" approach
    to their products. Seems a pity for pedals that sell for
    as much as Looks do. Shimano gives you a tool with your
    pedals so that you can take them appart and service them.
    At least they used to - haven't bought any Shimano pedals
    in a few years. Next time I'm in need of road pedals I'll
    likely be looking at Shimanos....

    Look sells a complete spindle with bearings that's not too
    expensive as a drop-in service piece.

    On some models there is a bearing assembly with a series of
    rollers in a sleeve pressed into the dead end of the pedal
    body. It's called a Bremen Cup, bearing houses sell them.
    You need to destroy the old one to get a grasp on it.

    A thorough cleaning with new lube occasionally, as any
    bearing, is good practice if your bearings are picking up
    dirt or have a rough feel. Looks are quick in that regard.
    Clean often and you won't need parts, as in everything else.

    The early model with a staked Nylok nut is reverse threaded
    on one side. Note you can't get reverse 6mm Nylok nuts
    easily and also note you will likely melt the nylon when you
    grind the stake off. The whole spindle assembly is the
    preferred replacement there.

    Look pedals remain a very good value and used ones are
    plentiful (even Shimano, Mavic and Campagnolo badged).

    Standard road cleat format (not CX-7) interchanges over
    twenty years of minor model changes (except for the single
    year 1990 Pro )with fixed or rotating cleats.

    Last, the nylon collar which keeps the spindle assembly in
    the body wants a dot of locktite or a dab of mastic cement.

    Looks are not perfect but they are pretty good for
    bike parts.
    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
    April, 1971

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