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  1. Hi Again NG

    A friend of mine has just told me he is off to the USA in a
    few days... now their Garmin GPS are a damn site cheaper
    than here, you are following my drift I can tell 😉)

    Are the garmin GPS sold there any different to the ones here
    in the U.K ?

    What I am basically asking is if he gets me one of the top
    end models with Barometer, compass etc will it be of no use
    in the U.K or a bargain not to be missed.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve

  2. Steve,

    It could be either! Thoughts below are if someone is going
    to get it. If you are shipping it see my final note.

    Okay the basemaps of the USA versions are USA basemaps so
    they will not give you any functionality here in Europe. But
    then you have to decide if that is important to you.

    If you buy a mapping unit such as the Vista or the MAp 76
    range or the 60C range etc then you will not have any
    mapping that is of use in Europe so its a waste of money
    going to the map version. HOWEVER! If you add to the basic
    unit streetmapping for Europe (metroguide), then you can use
    the main memory up to its maximum and you will have
    streetmapping detail and the basemap makes no difference.
    BUT The basemap is the map that you will see when you zoom
    out beyond about a 3 miles display scale so when you zoom
    out then you will not see any roads.

    To be honest if you are looking at buying the 60C or CS then
    the basemap on these is e degraded version of the normal
    Euro basemap and is almost worthless - so if I was buying a
    Garmin in the USA it would be a 60 or 60CS. (CS has
    barometer and compass). The memory on the 60 is 59mb so
    plenty of room for the metroguide (buy this in the USA as
    well) or for autorouting add the navigation kit (about $200)
    with the City Select Software.

    I wouldn't buy a car unit in the USA though if I were you
    because by the time you have bought the European software -
    which MUST be bought in the USA then its almost the same as
    in Europe plus you have the pain of not having any display
    of maps outside of the 3 miles zoom scale.

    On all units you can load the worldmap into the memory and
    this will give you just about the same basemap information
    but takes precious memory space - with the handhelds there
    is not much memory to play with.

    So in summary - yes and no but if yes buy a 60C or CS for
    the most 'international' 60c in usa about $380 in uk about
    £340 CS about $420 in USA in UK about £420

    Final Note to those who want to ship it to UK. Add about 27%
    to the cost of the US Dollar price as there is a cumulative
    additional %age as follows: Most online stores will add 3%
    for credit card insurance (but this makes cumulative even
    higher!), add cost of shipping, then add 3% of the cost of
    product plus shipping for duty, then add 17.5% of the cost
    of the unit PLUS shipping PLUS duty = about 27%

    EU customs now charge above on all imported goods having
    value over £18.00

    --
    Best Regards David Harrison-Wood www.gps4less.co.uk

    "Steve Tipper" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Again NG

    A friend of mine has just told me he is off to the USA in
    a few days...


    now

    Quoted message said:

    their Garmin GPS are a damn site cheaper than here, you
    are following my drift I can tell 😉)

    Are the garmin GPS sold there any different to the ones
    here in the U.K ?

    What I am basically asking is if he gets me one of the top
    end models with Barometer, compass etc will it be of no
    use in the U.K or a bargain not to be missed.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Steve Tipper
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Again NG

    A friend of mine has just told me he is off to the USA in a
    few days... now their Garmin GPS are a damn site cheaper
    than here, you are following my drift I can tell 😉)

    Are the garmin GPS sold there any different to the ones
    here in the U.K ?

    What I am basically asking is if he gets me one of the top
    end models with Barometer, compass etc will it be of no use
    in the U.K or a bargain not to be missed.

    It will be fine. The only potential pitfall is that units
    with maps will probably have an Americas base-map (as
    opposed to rest of the world / Atlantic) and may come with
    bundled maps of the US of A.

    If you do not want a mapping receiver there will be no
    difference.

    --

    dscs.demon.co.ukdscs.demon.co.uk

  4. I ordered my etrex summit from the states, it worked out
    after import duty £30 quid cheaper, as it has no mapping, it
    works perfectly well over here

    Cheers Paul

    "gps4less" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Steve,

    It could be either! Thoughts below are if someone is going
    to get it. If you are shipping it see my final note.

    Okay the basemaps of the USA versions are USA basemaps so
    they will not


    give

    Quoted message said:

    you any functionality here in Europe. But then you have to
    decide if


    that

    Quoted message said:

    is important to you.

    If you buy a mapping unit such as the Vista or the MAp 76
    range or the 60C range etc then you will not have any
    mapping that is of use in Europe so


    its

    Quoted message said:

    a waste of money going to the map version. HOWEVER! If you
    add to the basic unit streetmapping for Europe
    (metroguide), then you can use the


    main

    Quoted message said:

    memory up to its maximum and you will have streetmapping
    detail and the basemap makes no difference. BUT The
    basemap is the map that you will


    see

    Quoted message said:

    when you zoom out beyond about a 3 miles display scale so
    when you zoom


    out

    Quoted message said:

    then you will not see any roads.

    To be honest if you are looking at buying the 60C or CS
    then the basemap


    on

    Quoted message said:

    these is e degraded version of the normal Euro basemap and
    is almost worthless - so if I was buying a Garmin in the
    USA it would be a 60 or


    60CS.

    Quoted message said:

    (CS has barometer and compass). The memory on the 60 is
    59mb so plenty


    of

    Quoted message said:

    room for the metroguide (buy this in the USA as well) or
    for autorouting


    add

    Quoted message said:

    the navigation kit (about $200) with the City Select
    Software.

    I wouldn't buy a car unit in the USA though if I were you
    because by the time you have bought the European software
    - which MUST be bought in the


    USA

    Quoted message said:

    then its almost the same as in Europe plus you have the
    pain of not


    having

    Quoted message said:

    any display of maps outside of the 3 miles zoom scale.

    On all units you can load the worldmap into the memory and
    this will give you just about the same basemap information
    but takes precious memory space - with the handhelds there
    is not much memory to play with.

    So in summary - yes and no but if yes buy a 60C or CS for
    the most 'international' 60c in usa about $380 in uk about
    £340 CS about $420


    in

    Quoted message said:

    USA in UK about £420

    Final Note to those who want to ship it to UK. Add about
    27% to the cost


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the US Dollar price as there is a cumulative additional
    %age as follows: Most online stores will add 3% for
    credit card insurance (but this makes cumulative even
    higher!), add cost of shipping, then add 3% of the cost
    of product plus shipping for duty, then add 17.5% of the
    cost of the unit


    PLUS

    Quoted message said:

    shipping PLUS duty = about 27%

    EU customs now charge above on all imported goods having
    value over £18.00

    --
    Best Regards David Harrison-Wood www.gps4less.co.uk

    "Steve Tipper" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Again NG

    A friend of mine has just told me he is off to the USA
    in a few days...


    now

    Quoted message said:

    their Garmin GPS are a damn site cheaper than here, you
    are following my drift I can tell 😉)

    Are the garmin GPS sold there any different to the ones
    here in the U.K


    ?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What I am basically asking is if he gets me one of the
    top end models


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Barometer, compass etc will it be of no use in the U.K
    or a bargain not


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be missed.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve


  5. What was the full cost in sterling by the time you got it
    here - good to have all info!

    --
    Best Regards David Harrison-Wood www.gps4less.co.uk

    "Paul Blake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I ordered my etrex summit from the states, it worked out
    after import duty £30 quid cheaper, as it has no mapping,
    it works perfectly well over here

    Cheers Paul

    "gps4less" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Steve,

    It could be either! Thoughts below are if someone is
    going to get it.


    If

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you are shipping it see my final note.

    Okay the basemaps of the USA versions are USA basemaps
    so they will not


    give

    Quoted message said:

    you any functionality here in Europe. But then you have
    to decide if


    that

    Quoted message said:

    is important to you.

    If you buy a mapping unit such as the Vista or the MAp
    76 range or the


    60C

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    range etc then you will not have any mapping that is of
    use in Europe so


    its

    Quoted message said:

    a waste of money going to the map version. HOWEVER! If
    you add to the basic unit streetmapping for Europe
    (metroguide), then you can use the


    main

    Quoted message said:

    memory up to its maximum and you will have streetmapping
    detail and the basemap makes no difference. BUT The
    basemap is the map that you will


    see

    Quoted message said:

    when you zoom out beyond about a 3 miles display scale
    so when you zoom


    out

    Quoted message said:

    then you will not see any roads.

    To be honest if you are looking at buying the 60C or CS
    then the basemap


    on

    Quoted message said:

    these is e degraded version of the normal Euro basemap
    and is almost worthless - so if I was buying a Garmin in
    the USA it would be a 60 or


    60CS.

    Quoted message said:

    (CS has barometer and compass). The memory on the 60 is
    59mb so plenty


    of

    Quoted message said:

    room for the metroguide (buy this in the USA as well) or
    for autorouting


    add

    Quoted message said:

    the navigation kit (about $200) with the City Select
    Software.

    I wouldn't buy a car unit in the USA though if I were
    you because by the time you have bought the European
    software - which MUST be bought in the


    USA

    Quoted message said:

    then its almost the same as in Europe plus you have the
    pain of not


    having

    Quoted message said:

    any display of maps outside of the 3 miles zoom scale.

    On all units you can load the worldmap into the memory
    and this will


    give

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you just about the same basemap information but takes
    precious memory space - with the handhelds there is not
    much memory to play with.

    So in summary - yes and no but if yes buy a 60C or CS
    for the most 'international' 60c in usa about $380 in uk
    about £340 CS about


    $420

    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:

    USA in UK about £420

    Final Note to those who want to ship it to UK. Add about
    27% to the


    cost

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    the US Dollar price as there is a cumulative additional
    %age as


    follows:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Most online stores will add 3% for credit card insurance
    (but this makes cumulative even higher!), add cost of
    shipping, then add 3% of the cost


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    product plus shipping for duty, then add 17.5% of the
    cost of the unit


    PLUS

    Quoted message said:

    shipping PLUS duty = about 27%

    EU customs now charge above on all imported goods having
    value over


    £18.00

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    --
    Best Regards David Harrison-Wood www.gps4less.co.uk

    "Steve Tipper" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Again NG

    A friend of mine has just told me he is off to the USA
    in a few


    days...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    now

    Quoted message said:

    their Garmin GPS are a damn site cheaper than here,
    you are following


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    drift I can tell 😉)

    Are the garmin GPS sold there any different to the
    ones here in the


    U.K

    Quoted message said:

    ?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What I am basically asking is if he gets me one of the
    top end models


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Barometer, compass etc will it be of no use in the U.K
    or a bargain


    not

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be missed.

    Thanks in advance

    Steve



  6. Paul Blake <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I ordered my etrex summit from the states, it worked out
    after import duty £30 quid cheaper, as it has no mapping,
    it works perfectly well over here


    The op said his friend is going over to the US, so shipping
    etc doesn't enter into it.

    I brought my Vista back and it cost me £195 equivalent,
    about £73 less than the going rate on the .net. It also
    included the PC connect cable......

    I bought the Metro USA CD, installed it on son-in-law's
    Laptop so he can use it over there, and that cost me $99,
    about £55.

    The US base map doesn't bother me because I have Mapsource
    UK R & R, of which the Vista can store about 2/3 in its
    24Mb. That has been very useful when in the car.
    --
    Gordon

  7. "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Paul Blake <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I ordered my etrex summit from the states, it worked out
    after import


    duty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    £30 quid cheaper, as it has no mapping, it works
    perfectly well over here


    The op said his friend is going over to the US, so
    shipping etc doesn't enter into it.

    In case it wasn't clear I assumed that in my original
    response but needed to add the caveat at the end for those
    of us who do not forsee a trip to the state in the near
    future. The cable comes with all of the Garmin handhelds
    except the eTrex and the Geko 101 and the 12 (don't think I
    missed any).

    Quoted message said:


    I brought my Vista back and it cost me £195 equivalent,
    about £73 less than the going rate on the .net. It also
    included the PC connect cable..

    You can get the Vista for about £140 from www.tvnav.com so
    the deal to buy in the USA is even better if you find the
    right place.

    The cable comes with all of the Garmin handhelds except
    the eTrex and the Geko 101 and the 12 (don't think I
    missed any).....

    Quoted message said:


    I bought the Metro USA CD, installed it on son-in-law's
    Laptop so he can use it over there, and that cost me $99,
    about £55.

    The US base map doesn't bother me because I have Mapsource
    UK R & R, of which the Vista can store about 2/3 in its
    24Mb. That has been very useful when in the car.

    R&R is no longer available from GArmin and the R&R UK is
    quite old now. But still very useful as there are not that
    many major changes and its better than nothing on the
    basemap. The problem will always be if you have a mapping
    unit then you won't have any maps unless you install either
    the worldmap or the other Mapsource products such as R&R
    and Metro.

    As I said - you pays yer money .........etc

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Gordon

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