under water

As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

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by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

I was watching a documentary on the training of U.S. Navy
"Seals" and one of their training tests is the ability to
swim 50 meters underwater. They jumped into the pool at one
end of a 25 meter pool, leveled out into a more or less
underwater breast stroke, and had to go to the end, turn
around, and come back to touch the wall at the starting end---
all without taking a breath. I decided to try it and could
get to the end of the 25 meter pool, but there was no way I
could turn and come back.

Pat in TX

The World Records at this moment are166 mtr (men) and 100
mtr (women)............

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As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this

group

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to learn more about swimming techniques, training etc. For
those not familiar with the sport: it's all about trying
to get as far as possible either with or without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

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by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

I was watching a documentary on the training of U.S. Navy
"Seals" and one

of

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their training tests is the ability to swim 50 meters
underwater. They jumped into the pool at one end of a 25
meter pool, leveled out into a

more

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or less underwater breast stroke, and had to go to the
end, turn around,

and

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come back to touch the wall at the starting end---all
without taking a breath. I decided to try it and could get
to the end of the 25 meter

pool,

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but there was no way I could turn and come back.

Pat in TX

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I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance = underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did = you get?

As a kid at the YMCA our swim coach told us that underwater
swimming used to be an event. However, he then told us of
guys that would sorta passout and then keep swimming and
drown. True or not? Don't know. However, I do notice that
underwater swimming is still not a swimming event even
though it is a rather obvious choice.

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...I do notice that underwater swimming is still not a
swimming event even though it is a rather obvious choice.

It used to be an Olympic event. 'First to the Wall - 100
Years of Olympic Swimming': recounts the 1900 event of
Underwater Swimming where you got two points for each meter
swum and one point for each second underwater. A Frenchman
won by swimming 60 meters in 1:08.4.

There was also the 1904 Plunge for Distance event, where you
had sixty seconds or until your head surfaced to glide as
far as you could. An American went 62'-6" in 19.05 seconds.

Fred S. said:

As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

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by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

A few people I swim with can do 50 yards of fly without
breathing.

Fred S. said:

As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

A little over 100 meters, no fins, but that was far back in
the mists of time.

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by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous, especially without experienced and trained
supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

For those intrested to see the video of the 166 mtr WR, check this out:

(8,75 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWorld%20Record%20166Open ↗
%20meter%20256kbWM9.wmv

(3,2 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%203,2mb.wmvOpen ↗

(1,9 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%201,9mb.wmvOpen ↗

Fred

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The World Records at this moment are166 mtr (men) and 100
mtr (women)............

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berlin.de...

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As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I
recently joined this

group

Quoted message said:

to learn more about swimming techniques, training etc.
For those not familiar with the sport: it's all about
trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance

underwater

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for fun or whatever. What I'm curious about is how far
did you get?

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>by the way, doing max underwater swims can be
>extremely dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

I was watching a documentary on the training of U.S.
Navy "Seals" and

one

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of

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their training tests is the ability to swim 50 meters
underwater. They jumped into the pool at one end of a 25
meter pool, leveled out into a

more

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or less underwater breast stroke, and had to go to the
end, turn around,

and

Quoted message said:

come back to touch the wall at the starting end---all
without taking a breath. I decided to try it and could
get to the end of the 25 meter

pool,

Quoted message said:

but there was no way I could turn and come back.

Pat in TX

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As a kid at the YMCA our swim coach told us that
underwater swimming used

to be

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an event. However, he then told us of guys that would
sorta passout and

then

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keep swimming and drown. True or not? Don't know.

If your will is strong enough, you might end up with a very
low % of oxygen in your body/brain so you lose motor
control, blow off air, lose buoyancy and drown. Most
accidents however occur just after surfacing with people
losing motor control and slipping back underwater, without
the power to safe themselves. That's why it is SO important
to do these things supervised by well trained buddies.

Fred

Hi

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A few people I swim with can do 50 yards of fly without
breathing.

Crumbs! Why would they want to do that? Fly gives you a
chance to breathe every stroke - if you're doing it right.

Underwater, pushing off from the shallow end, I can do 25
metres of legs-only breastroke kick (arms by the sides for
maximum streamlining) in a 33 metre pool and am working up
to the full length. Hard-going though.

Cheers

Martin

Wow! Thanks for posting that. Marianne

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For those intrested to see the video of the 166 mtr WR,
check this out:

(8,75 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWorld%20Record%201Open ↗
66%20meter%20256kbWM9.wmv

(3,2 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%203,2mb.wmvOpen ↗

(1,9 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%201,9mb.wmvOpen ↗

Fred

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The World Records at this moment are166 mtr (men) and
100 mtr (women)............

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I
recently joined this

group

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to learn more about swimming techniques, training etc.
For those not familiar with the sport: it's all about
trying to get as far as

possible

Quoted message said:

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either with or without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance

underwater

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Quoted message said:

for fun or whatever. What I'm curious about is how far
did you get?

>>by the way, doing max underwater swims can be
>>extremely dangerous,
especially without experienced and trained
supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

I was watching a documentary on the training of U.S.
Navy "Seals" and

one

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of

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their training tests is the ability to swim 50 meters
underwater.

They

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jumped into the pool at one end of a 25 meter pool,
leveled out into a

more

Quoted message said:

or less underwater breast stroke, and had to go to the
end, turn

around,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

come back to touch the wall at the starting end---all
without taking a breath. I decided to try it and could
get to the end of the 25 meter

pool,

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but there was no way I could turn and come back.

Pat in TX

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Wow! Thanks for posting that. Marianne

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For those intrested to see the video of the 166 mtr WR,
check this out:

(8,75 Mb) planetfreedive.dkWorld%20Record%2Open ↗
0166%20meter%20256kbWM9.wmv

(3,2 Mb)
planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%203,2mb.wmvOpen ↗

(1,9 Mb)
planetfreedive.dkWR%20166%201,9mb.wmvOpen ↗

Fred

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The World Records at this moment are166 mtr (men) and
100 mtr (women)............

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berlin.de...
>
> As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I
> recently joined

this

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group
> to learn more about swimming techniques, training
> etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's all
> about trying to get as far as

possible

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> either with or without fins.
>
> I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a
> long distance

underwater

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> for fun or whatever. What I'm curious about is how
> far did you get?
>
> >>by the way, doing max underwater swims can be
> >>extremely dangerous,
> especially without experienced and trained
> supervision<<
>
> Fred S. Netherlands
>
>
>
> I was watching a documentary on the training of U.S.
> Navy "Seals"

and

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one

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of
> their training tests is the ability to swim 50
> meters underwater.

They

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> jumped into the pool at one end of a 25 meter pool,
> leveled out into

a

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more
> or less underwater breast stroke, and had to go to
> the end, turn

around,

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and
> come back to touch the wall at the starting end---
> all without taking

a

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> breath. I decided to try it and could get to the end
> of the 25

meter

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pool,
> but there was no way I could turn and come back.
>
> Pat in TX
>
>

Also quite impressive (by the same guy)

planetfreedive.dkstig 204m.wmvOpen ↗

204 mtr. with a monofin on 1 breath

My personal best is 100 yards (SC-Y). (Long ago in a
swimming land far, far away)

I used a dolphin kick with no arms after the inital breast
stroke pull off of each wall. Thought my chest was going to
explode by the end.

"Fred S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... As I am
mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently joined
this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

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by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

Michael Sollner said:

My personal best is 100 yards (SC-Y). (Long ago in a
swimming land far, far away)

I used a dolphin kick with no arms after the inital breast
stroke pull off of each wall. Thought my chest was going to
explode by the end.

I used breaststroke the whole way, and I went very, very
slow. I went so slow that I was meditating.

martin

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"Fred S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... As I am
mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently joined
this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

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I used breaststroke the whole way, and I went very, very
slow. I went so slow that I was meditating.

martin

That is a good approach Martin!

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Michael Sollner said:

My personal best is 100 yards (SC-Y). (Long ago in a
swimming land far, far away)

I used a dolphin kick with no arms after the inital
breast stroke pull off of each wall. Thought my chest was
going to explode by the end.

I used breaststroke the whole way, and I went very, very
slow. I went so slow that I was meditating.

snip

sounds like my breastroke during a 400 IM !

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As I am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this group to learn more about swimming techniques,
training etc. For those not familiar with the sport: it's
all about trying to get as far as possible either with or
without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
dangerous, especially without experienced and trained
supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

No fins, about 90 yards with no hyperventilation (eventually
wised up on that.) I think most people could add close to
50% to their distance provided they were silly enough to
hyperventilate beforehand.

- Al

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Michael Sollner said:

My personal best is 100 yards (SC-Y). (Long ago in a
swimming land far, far away)

I used a dolphin kick with no arms after the inital
breast stroke pull off of each wall. Thought my chest was
going to explode by the end.

I used breaststroke the whole way, and I went very, very
slow. I went so slow that I was meditating.

martin

That was my approach too, although I didn't go as far!

- Al

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"Fred S." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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"]news:[email hidden]... As I
am mostly interested in (pool) freediving, I recently
joined this group to learn more about swimming
techniques, training etc. For those not familiar with the
sport: it's all about trying to get as far as possible
either with or without fins.

I can imagine that you guys have tried to swim a long
distance underwater for fun or whatever. What I'm curious
about is how far did you get?

Quoted message said:

>by the way, doing max underwater swims can be extremely
>dangerous,

especially without experienced and trained supervision<<

Fred S. Netherlands

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I think most people could add close to 50% to their
distance

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provided they were silly enough to hyperventilate
beforehand.

in your opinion that is.