Getting started

Have you checked eBay lately? There are frequently Flex
Point starter kits for sale. They might contain most of the
At Home materials you need for a much lower price. All you
need to understand the program is the Getting Started
booklet. Add to that the Food companion Books, a food scale
and measuring cups and you are good to get started.

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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OK, so I had decided I was going to start Weight Watchers
next Monday. I also decided that meetings just aren't for
me. I had more-or-less decided on Weight Watchers online
and was all set to join this morning.

Then I found out that *all* I was going to get for my
money was the use of the online tools, which from what I
read frankly don't seem all that sophisticated to me. I
emailed customer support to check, and I wouldn't get
*any* materials that can be used offline.

Frankly, I'm really disappointed. I spend too much time
online as it is, and I want the convenience of materials
that are handy even when I'm on vacation or when my hard
drive is out (like happened last year) or, you know,
just to research point totals when I'm making out my
grocery list at my kitchen table with the store ads in
front of me.

What does that $29.95 registration fee for WW Online buy
me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "bupkus".

I can order the Weight Watchers at home materials, which
seem pretty

pricey,

Quoted message said:

but at least get me the materials I need. But I can't
start on Monday

then.

Quoted message said:

Well, maybe I can if I order with rush shipping, but I'm
not going to do that.

Is there a place online where I can get enough
information to get

started --

Quoted message said:

how many points I should eat based on my weight, what
point values are for various foods, how to calculate
points, and the like?

Anny Who has a low tolerance for registration fees that
don't buy her anything

Hi Anny, and welcome to the group. I go to meetings, so I don't know much
about what happens online. However, you may find some of the links in the
weekly welcome notice (last posted last Sunday - you can search for it on
groups.google.comgroups.google.comOpen ↗ ), and some of the information in this welcome
notice useful:

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of
support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays,
I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find
useful. You may want to look for that later in the week, or
do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP = on
Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter,
Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

SIA - Spring Into Action Exercise Challenge:
angelfire.comsia.htmOpen ↗

WNM - Weight No More Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comwnm.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms:
wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current
weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will
decrease (logic is that your body will need less to
operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints
system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition
to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout
the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a
particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target
drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended
per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6
glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer
desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily
number of points. Points do not carry over from day to day.
You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your
discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an
additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are
earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the
day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be
a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of
information available, as well as the food point database
and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight:
133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK,
Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different. The
UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat
and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on
total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above
can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is
unusual in that most of the people who participate are
respectful, considerate folks who freely share their
experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers
show up to post advertising, false information, insults, and
the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are just
trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this
newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has
to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts
something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
93.5/73./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome
notice: geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
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Quoted message said:

OK, so I had decided I was going to start Weight Watchers
next Monday. I also decided that meetings just aren't for
me. I had more-or-less decided on Weight Watchers online
and was all set to join this morning.

Then I found out that *all* I was going to get for my
money was the use of the online tools, which from what I
read frankly don't seem all that sophisticated to me. I
emailed customer support to check, and I wouldn't get
*any* materials that can be used offline.

Frankly, I'm really disappointed. I spend too much time
online as it is, and I want the convenience of materials
that are handy even when I'm on vacation or when my hard
drive is out (like happened last year) or, you know,
just to research point totals when I'm making out my
grocery list at my kitchen table with the store ads in
front of me.

What does that $29.95 registration fee for WW Online buy
me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "bupkus".

I can order the Weight Watchers at home materials, which
seem pretty

pricey,

Quoted message said:

but at least get me the materials I need. But I can't
start on Monday

then.

Quoted message said:

Well, maybe I can if I order with rush shipping, but I'm
not going to do that.

Is there a place online where I can get enough
information to get

started --

Quoted message said:

how many points I should eat based on my weight, what
point values are for various foods, how to calculate
points, and the like?

Anny Who has a low tolerance for registration fees that
don't buy her anything

Anny Middon said:

OK, so I had decided I was going to start Weight Watchers
next Monday. I also decided that meetings just aren't for
me. I had more-or-less decided on Weight Watchers online
and was all set to join this morning.

Then I found out that *all* I was going to get for my money
was the use of the online tools, which from what I read
frankly don't seem all that sophisticated to me. I emailed
customer support to check, and I wouldn't get *any*
materials that can be used offline.

Frankly, I'm really disappointed. I spend too much time
online as it is, and I want the convenience of materials
that are handy even when I'm on vacation or when my hard
drive is out (like happened last year) or, you know, just
to research point totals when I'm making out my grocery
list at my kitchen table with the store ads in front of me.

What does that $29.95 registration fee for WW Online buy
me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "bupkus".

I can order the Weight Watchers at home materials,
which seem pretty pricey, but at least get me the
materials I need. But I can't start on Monday then.
Well, maybe I can if I order with rush shipping, but
I'm not going to do that.

Is there a place online where I can get enough information
to get started -- how many points I should eat based on my
weight, what point values are for various foods, how to
calculate points, and the like?

Anny Who has a low tolerance for registration fees that
don't buy her anything

all the WW material can be found on ebay. But you won't get
it in time to start monday. But what the hell, start today.
I know you won't know about points as such, but you can make
a start by cutting out all the junk and sweets.

All WW material is also available online. You can find out
how many points you should be eating and how to calculate
points. A quick play with excel will get you a spreadsheet
to help you record everything right.

Weigh yourself, measure yourself, take some pictures, and
your away - why wait. If you are going to start Monday then
start today and get a head start on your plans.

Ray - who also has a low tolerance to registration fees and
a lot more
--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

Good post - START NOW really is the bottom line. And, yes,
some many tools are already available.

Quoted message said:

Anny Middon said:

OK, so I had decided I was going to start Weight Watchers
next Monday. I also decided that meetings just aren't for
me. I had more-or-less decided on Weight Watchers online
and was all set to join this morning.

Then I found out that *all* I was going to get for my
money was the use of the online tools, which from what I
read frankly don't seem all that sophisticated to me. I
emailed customer support to check, and I wouldn't get
*any* materials that can be used offline.

Frankly, I'm really disappointed. I spend too much time
online as it is, and I want the convenience of materials
that are handy even when I'm on vacation or when my hard
drive is out (like happened last year) or, you know,
just to research point totals when I'm making out my
grocery list at my kitchen table with the store ads in
front of me.

What does that $29.95 registration fee for WW Online buy
me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "bupkus".

I can order the Weight Watchers at home materials, which
seem pretty pricey, but at least get me the materials I
need. But I can't start on Monday then. Well, maybe I
can if I order with rush shipping, but I'm not going to
do that.

Is there a place online where I can get enough information
to get started -- how many points I should eat based on my
weight, what point values are for various foods, how to
calculate points, and the like?

Anny Who has a low tolerance for registration fees that
don't buy her anything

all the WW material can be found on ebay. But you won't get
it in time to start monday. But what the hell, start today.
I know you won't know about points as such, but you can
make a start by cutting out all the junk and sweets.

All WW material is also available online. You can find out
how many points you should be eating and how to calculate
points. A quick play with excel will get you a spreadsheet
to help you record everything right.

Weigh yourself, measure yourself, take some pictures, and
your away - why wait. If you are going to start Monday then
start today and get a head start on your plans.

Ray - who also has a low tolerance to registration fees and
a lot more

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Quoted message said:

all the WW material can be found on ebay. But you won't
get it in time to start monday. But what the hell, start
today. I know you won't know about points as such, but you
can make a start by cutting out all the junk and sweets.

All WW material is also available online. You can find out
how many points you should be eating and how to calculate
points. A quick play with excel will get you a spreadsheet
to help you record everything right.

Weigh yourself, measure yourself, take some pictures, and
your away - why wait. If you are going to start Monday
then start today and get a head start on your plans.

Ray - who also has a low tolerance to registration fees
and a lot more
--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

I'm all admiration for people who can start a lifestyle
change at the drop of a hat and stick with it.

Unfortunately, that's not me. I need time to imagine myself
in my new lifestyle, to plan different ways of doing things,
to acclimate myself mentally and, more importantly,
emotionally to the changes.

When I decided to quit smoking, I scheduled a date several
days in advance. During those days I imagined myself not
smoking. I paid attention to the times when I smoked a lot
and thought what I'd do without a cigarette. I made the
mental switch that let me start thinking of myself as a
person who didn't smoke and not a smoker who wasn't smoking
right then.

I lay in bed the night before "the day" and smoked my last
cigarette. It wasn't easy, but that *was* my last cigarette.
It's been more than ten years now.

It's different changing my eating habits, I know. It's not
like I'll eat a chocolate bunny on Sunday and tell myself,
"Self, that's the last chocolate Easter bunny you'll ever
eat." But still I need time to visualize myself as a person
who does not mindlessly eat the whole basket of candy. I
need time to start thinking of myself as a person who does
not need food as a crutch.

Anny

"Anny Middon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

all the WW material can be found on ebay. But you won't
get it in time to start monday. But what the hell, start
today. I know you won't know about points as such, but
you can make a start by cutting out all the junk and
sweets.

All WW material is also available online. You can find
out how many points you should be eating and how to
calculate points. A quick play with excel will get you a
spreadsheet to help you record everything right.

Weigh yourself, measure yourself, take some pictures,
and your away - why wait. If you are going to start
Monday then start today and get a head start on your
plans.

Ray - who also has a low tolerance to registration fees
and a lot more
--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

I'm all admiration for people who can start a lifestyle
change at the drop of a hat and stick with it.

Unfortunately, that's not me. I need time to imagine
myself in my new lifestyle, to plan different ways of
doing things, to acclimate myself mentally and, more
importantly, emotionally to the changes.

When I decided to quit smoking, I scheduled a date
several days in

advance.

Quoted message said:

During those days I imagined myself not smoking. I paid
attention to the times when I smoked a lot and thought
what I'd do without a cigarette. I made the mental switch
that let me start thinking of myself as a person

who

Quoted message said:

didn't smoke and not a smoker who wasn't smoking
right then.

I lay in bed the night before "the day" and smoked my last
cigarette. It wasn't easy, but that *was* my last
cigarette. It's been more than ten years now.

It's different changing my eating habits, I know. It's not
like I'll eat

a

Quoted message said:

chocolate bunny on Sunday and tell myself, "Self, that's
the last

chocolate

Quoted message said:

Easter bunny you'll ever eat." But still I need time to
visualize myself

as

Quoted message said:

a person who does not mindlessly eat the whole basket of
candy. I need

time

Quoted message said:

to start thinking of myself as a person who does not need
food as a

crutch.

Quoted message said:

One thing that you can do in preparation for your real start
on Mondy would be to right everything down that you put in
your mouth. Maybe that will give you an insight as to where
you can trim the extra calories. We tend to eat without
thinking about what we are eating. Writing things down helps
solve this problem. It also forces you to remember what you
ate at the last meal. Then on Monday make a serious
commitment to eating less sugar and junk, add more milk (FF
or LF will do), aim for 5 servings of fruits and veggies and
lots of water. These are things that you can do to eat
healthier without even being on the WW program. Good luck.

I understand your situation. I need meetings. This group can help you,
glad you decided to go for it, Lee
Anny Middon <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

OK, so I had decided I was going to start Weight Watchers
next Monday. I also decided that meetings just aren't for
me. I had more-or-less decided on Weight Watchers online
and was all set to join this morning.

Then I found out that *all* I was going to get for my
money was the use of the online tools, which from what I
read frankly don't seem all that sophisticated to me. I
emailed customer support to check, and I wouldn't get
*any* materials that can be used offline.

Frankly, I'm really disappointed. I spend too much time
online as it is, and I want the convenience of materials
that are handy even when I'm on vacation or when my hard
drive is out (like happened last year) or, you know,
just to research point totals when I'm making out my
grocery list at my kitchen table with the store ads in
front of me.

What does that $29.95 registration fee for WW Online buy
me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "bupkus".

I can order the Weight Watchers at home materials, which
seem pretty

pricey,

Quoted message said:

but at least get me the materials I need. But I can't
start on Monday

then.

Quoted message said:

Well, maybe I can if I order with rush shipping, but I'm
not going to do that.

Is there a place online where I can get enough
information to get

started --

Quoted message said:

how many points I should eat based on my weight, what
point values are for various foods, how to calculate
points, and the like?

Anny Who has a low tolerance for registration fees that
don't buy her anything

you already have your first NSV, you are examining who you are and how you
will work the program, goo for you, Lee
Anny Middon <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

all the WW material can be found on ebay. But you won't
get it in time to start monday. But what the hell, start
today. I know you won't know about points as such, but
you can make a start by cutting out all the junk and
sweets.

All WW material is also available online. You can find
out how many points you should be eating and how to
calculate points. A quick play with excel will get you a
spreadsheet to help you record everything right.

Weigh yourself, measure yourself, take some pictures,
and your away - why wait. If you are going to start
Monday then start today and get a head start on your
plans.

Ray - who also has a low tolerance to registration fees
and a lot more
--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

I'm all admiration for people who can start a lifestyle
change at the drop of a hat and stick with it.

Unfortunately, that's not me. I need time to imagine
myself in my new lifestyle, to plan different ways of
doing things, to acclimate myself mentally and, more
importantly, emotionally to the changes.

When I decided to quit smoking, I scheduled a date
several days in

advance.

Quoted message said:

During those days I imagined myself not smoking. I paid
attention to the times when I smoked a lot and thought
what I'd do without a cigarette. I made the mental switch
that let me start thinking of myself as a person

who

Quoted message said:

didn't smoke and not a smoker who wasn't smoking
right then.

I lay in bed the night before "the day" and smoked my last
cigarette. It wasn't easy, but that *was* my last
cigarette. It's been more than ten years now.

It's different changing my eating habits, I know. It's not
like I'll eat

a

Quoted message said:

chocolate bunny on Sunday and tell myself, "Self, that's
the last

chocolate

Quoted message said:

Easter bunny you'll ever eat." But still I need time to
visualize myself

as

Quoted message said:

a person who does not mindlessly eat the whole basket of
candy. I need

time

Quoted message said:

to start thinking of myself as a person who does not need
food as a

crutch.

Quoted message said:

Anny