Museeuw vs. PVP

Tom Kunich said:

It is pretty funny that those who say "Damn! Musseuw would
have won again without that flat" don't take into account
that PVP would certainly have beaten Museeuw in a two up
sprint save for that flat.

Huh? Museeuw flatted out of the lead group, which allowed
him to be caught by Van Petegem. PVP couldn't have caught
the lead group on his own. Or at least, he didn't, even with
Museeuw to work with.

The race-aftermath commentary on this group is even more
omnisciently incoherent than usual today. It's good to
see you gang have been training hard and are in fine
form for July.

Where's Henry anyway? He would have liked this, but he
disappeared over a month ago and www.lhchang.com is gone.
SDSteve? Anybody? Bueller?

Benjamin Weiner said:

Tom Kunich said:

It is pretty funny that those who say "Damn! Musseuw
would have won again without that flat" don't take into
account that PVP would certainly have beaten Museeuw in
a two up sprint save for that flat.

Huh? Museeuw flatted out of the lead group, which allowed
him to be caught by Van Petegem. PVP couldn't have caught
the lead group on his own. Or at least, he didn't, even
with Museeuw to work with.

The race-aftermath commentary on this group is even more
omnisciently incoherent than usual today. It's good to
see you gang have been training hard and are in fine form
for July.

tom sometimes will say things to get a certain response he
wants. pvp had his own flat while off the front on an
attack and yet managed to get back to the group on his own,
drop them, catch museeuw (what happened to wesseman btw?).
who knows what he would have done without his own bad luck
flat? maybe he's looking for something like that? if you
spend too much time trying to guess what he wants you'll go
batty, though.

hh

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Benjamin Weiner said:

Tom Kunich said:

It is pretty funny that those who say "Damn! Musseuw
would have won

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without that flat" don't take into account that PVP
would certainly

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beaten Museeuw in a two up sprint save for that flat.

Huh? Museeuw flatted out of the lead group, which
allowed him to be caught by Van Petegem. PVP couldn't
have caught the lead group on his own. Or at least, he
didn't, even with Museeuw to work with.

The race-aftermath commentary on this group is even more
omnisciently incoherent than usual today. It's good to
see you gang have been training hard and are in fine
form for July.

tom sometimes will say things to get a certain response he
wants. pvp had his own flat while off the front on an
attack and yet managed to get back to the group on his
own, drop them, catch museeuw (what happened to wesseman
btw?). who knows what he would have done without his own
bad luck flat? maybe he's looking for something like that?
if you spend too much time trying to guess what he wants
you'll go batty, though.

hh

Tom would often think things had happened that had not. Very
frustrating.

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It is pretty funny that those who say "Damn! Musseuw would
have won again without that flat" don't take into account
that PVP would certainly have beaten Museeuw in a two up
sprint save for that flat.

There no "certainly" in cycling, otherwise Museeuw
wouldn't have flatted in the last 100s meters of the last
pavee section.

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Tom would often think things had happened that had not.
Very frustrating.

It's all in the drugs Brian. Everyone that rides a bike
except you of course, is on drugs. That's why you have to
settle for riding wth 12 year olds in order to find someone
you can beat every once in awhile.

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tom sometimes will say things to get a certain response he
wants. pvp had his own flat while off the front on an
attack and yet managed to get back to the group on his
own, drop them, catch museeuw (what happened to wesseman
btw?). who knows what he would have done without his own
bad luck flat? maybe he's looking for something like that?
if you spend too much time trying to guess what he wants
you'll go batty, though.

I think he wants to convince people he is smart and persuade
them to his point of view. However, if he succeeds on either
count, then the reader is surely batty to start with.

But I must be batty since I spent time trying to
figure that out.

NS

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Tom would often think things had happened that had
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frustrating.

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It's all in the drugs Brian. Everyone that rides a bike
except you of course, is on drugs. That's why you have to
settle for riding wth 12 year olds in order to find
someone you can beat every once in awhile.

That is funny coming from the best known cat 5 for lifer.

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That is funny coming from the best known cat 5 for lifer.

You must have learned a lot about bicycle racing in your
long pro career. Oh, wait, you're just some flunky
amatuer bicycle racer who needs to believe that somehow a
Cat 3 knows more than a Cat 4. Does it hurt to have a
brain that puny?

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That is funny coming from the best known cat 5 for lifer.

You must have learned a lot about bicycle racing in your
long pro career. Oh, wait, you're just some flunky
amatuer bicycle racer who needs to believe that somehow a
Cat 3 knows more than a Cat 4. Does it hurt to have a
brain that puny?

Now now girls...handbags at dawn. ..

From what I could see PvP was miles stronger than JM and in fact he looked stronger than anyone else in the race. Like last year he just rode through the other riders like an adult in a kids race. There is no doubt in my mind that if he had not flatted that he would have won again.