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  1. I posted a Cannondale R600 here and some other places a
    while back (btw, the bike is still for sale if anyone is
    interested)

    Anyways, I get an email from someone, purportedly, in
    Australia and they want to buy the bike. I agree to their
    offer, then I get this:

    "Thanks for the mail.I have informed my client that he will
    be the one that will be handling the shipping charges and he
    made it cleared that he will do as well. Moreso, he has let
    me know that the payment that will be made to your will
    include some excess which the shippper will use for the
    clearing of the bike.Moreso he has agreed to pay the asking
    price which is $800 as you have requested,so the amount that
    will be on the check will be $2000which states that after
    you might have receive the check you will have to deduct the
    cost of the bike from the money then send the balance which
    stand as the shipping fee,to my shipper for quick shipping
    arrangement.If this is okay by you get back to me with the
    your Full name and contact address including your Phone
    Number HOME /OFFICE that wil be on the check."

    This sounds like a smaller version of the I'm from
    Nigeria, and I need someone to help withdrawal 20 million
    dollars from a bank account. What do you suppose they send
    me the check, and then want me to send back the
    'difference' ASAP before I get a chance to make sure it
    clears. Geez, what a weasel

    John

  2. there all over the net I received about 10 replies from these people..from
    post on campy only and vintage velos..
    "John Rees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I posted a Cannondale R600 here and some other places a
    while back (btw, the bike is still for sale if anyone is
    interested)

    Anyways, I get an email from someone, purportedly, in
    Australia and they want to buy the bike. I agree to their
    offer, then I get this:

    "Thanks for the mail.I have informed my client that he
    will be the one that will be handling the shipping charges
    and he made it cleared that he will do as well. Moreso, he
    has let me know that the payment that will be made to your
    will include some excess which the shippper will use for
    the clearing of the bike.Moreso he has agreed to pay the
    asking price which is $800 as you have requested,so the
    amount that will be on the check will be $2000which states
    that after you might have receive the check you will have
    to deduct the cost of the bike from the money then send
    the balance which stand as the shipping fee,to my shipper
    for quick shipping arrangement.If this is okay by you get
    back to me with the your Full name and contact address
    including your Phone Number HOME /OFFICE that wil be on
    the check."

    This sounds like a smaller version of the I'm from
    Nigeria, and I need someone to help withdrawal 20 million
    dollars from a bank account. What do you suppose they send
    me the check, and then want me to send back the
    'difference' ASAP before I get a chance to make sure it
    clears. Geez, what a weasel

    John

  3. "maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Eel8c.76255$SR1.139909@attbi_s04...

    Quoted message said:

    there all over the net I received about 10 replies from
    these people..from post on campy only and vintage velos..
    "John Rees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I posted a Cannondale R600 here and some other places a
    while back (btw, the bike is still for sale if anyone is
    interested)

    Anyways, I get an email from someone, purportedly, in
    Australia and they want to buy the bike. I agree to
    their offer, then I get this:

    "Thanks for the mail.I have informed my client that he
    will be the one that will be handling the shipping
    charges and he made it cleared that he will do as well.
    Moreso, he has let me know that the payment that will be
    made to your will include some excess which the shippper
    will use for the clearing of the bike.Moreso he has
    agreed to pay the asking price which is $800 as you have
    requested,so the amount that will be on the check will
    be $2000which states that after you might have receive
    the check you will have to deduct the cost of the bike
    from the money then send the balance which stand as the
    shipping fee,to my shipper for quick shipping
    arrangement.If this is okay by you get back to me with
    the your Full name and contact address including your
    Phone Number HOME /OFFICE that wil be on the check."

    This sounds like a smaller version of the I'm from
    Nigeria, and I need someone to help withdrawal 20
    million dollars from a bank account. What do you suppose
    they send me the check, and then want me to send back
    the 'difference' ASAP before I get a chance to make sure
    it clears. Geez, what a weasel

    John


    I've made it a hobby of collecting these checks (see RBR
    thread here:
    forums.roadbikereview.comshowthread.php and
    scroll down for pics)with the pretense of going along with
    their scheme, It's actually a great deal of fun, and if you
    collect enough checks like I did, you can have them framed
    and impress your friends.

  4. John-<< Moreso, he has let me know that the payment that
    will be made to your will include some excess which the
    shippper will use for the clearing of the bike.Moreso he has
    agreed to pay the asking price which is $800 as you have
    requested,so the amount that will be on the check will be
    $2000which states that after you might have receive the
    check you will have to deduct the cost of the bike from the
    money then send the balance which stand as the shipping
    fee,to my shipper for quick shipping arrangement.If this is
    okay by you get back to me with the your Full name and
    contact address including your Phone Number HOME /OFFICE
    that wil be on the check."

    This sounds like a smaller version of the I'm from
    Nigeria, and I need someone to help withdrawal 20 million
    dollars from a bank account. What do you suppose they send
    me the check, and then want me to send back the
    'difference' ASAP before I get a chance to make sure it
    clears. Geez, what a weasel

    John

    It is a scam...They want you to get the check, write
    another, send it away, and the original one bounces. The
    same was presented to me by some dude called
    'godsplan50'...stay away.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. Dave Thompson said:

    I've made it a hobby of collecting these checks (see RBR
    thread here:
    forums.roadbikereview.comshowthread.php and
    scroll down for pics)with the pretense of going along with
    their scheme, It's actually a great deal of fun, and if
    you collect enough checks like I did, you can have them
    framed and impress your friends.

    I love it!!

    I get a phoney offer of this type every couple of months,
    and it never occurred to me to play along with the
    hucksters, costing them time, postage, and whatever they pay
    for their bogus checks; but I'll do so now!

    Thanks for a great idea, Dave!

  6. "LioNiNoiL at NetScApE_DoT_NeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:V7b9c.48971$Bg.4007@fed1read03...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Thompson said:

    I've made it a hobby of collecting these checks (see RBR
    thread here:
    forums.roadbikereview.comshowthread.php
    and scroll down for pics)with the pretense of going
    along with their scheme, It's actually a great deal of
    fun, and if you collect enough checks like I did, you
    can have them framed and impress your friends.

    I love it!!

    I get a phoney offer of this type every couple of months,
    and it never occurred to me to play along with the
    hucksters, costing them time, postage, and whatever they
    pay for their bogus checks; but I'll do so now!

    Thanks for a great idea, Dave!


    Their time is not too costly, they spend most of it in
    internet cafes doing their deeds. What does cost them is
    the phoney checks and the FedEx from where ever to here. I
    called FedEx once after I received a check from Nigeria
    and was told that FedEx Next Day (the way the checks are
    often sent) is close to $50.00! So I figure if enough
    people play along until they get a check, these guys will
    feel it in their wallet. Plus it does make for some
    interesting e-mails.

  7. (Qui si parla Campagnolo ) said:

    It is a scam...They want you to get the check, write
    another, send it away, and the original one bounces. The
    same was presented to me by some dude called
    'godsplan50'...stay away.

    Yes, but that a small part of what they want. They also want
    your name, address, phone number, and bank account number,
    so they can clean you out.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I posted a Cannondale R600 here and some other places a
    while back (btw, the bike is still for sale if anyone is
    interested)

    Anyways, I get an email from someone, purportedly, in
    Australia and they want to buy the bike. I agree to their
    offer, then I get this:

    "Thanks for the mail.I have informed my client that he
    will be the one that will be handling the shipping charges
    and he made it cleared that he will do as well. Moreso, he
    has let me know that the payment that will be made to your
    will include some excess which the shippper will use for
    the clearing of the bike.Moreso he has agreed to pay the
    asking price which is $800 as you have requested,so the
    amount that will be on the check will be $2000which states
    that after you might have receive the check you will have
    to deduct the cost of the bike from the money then send
    the balance which stand as the shipping fee,to my shipper
    for quick shipping arrangement.If this is okay by you get
    back to me with the your Full name and contact address
    including your Phone Number HOME /OFFICE that wil be on
    the check."

    This sounds like a smaller version of the I'm from
    Nigeria, and I need someone to help withdrawal 20 million
    dollars from a bank account. What do you suppose they send
    me the check, and then want me to send back the
    'difference' ASAP before I get a chance to make sure it
    clears. Geez, what a weasel

    John

    wow you got a creative one, scammers are hardly putting any
    effort into it at all these days here, I get emails like:

    Dear Sir(s), I am from Indonesia and my client has very like
    you products and would like to purchase your bicycles
    shipped by air. If you will provide this service please
    package product and ship to the following address, I will
    provide credit card and pay all shipping.
    -----

    Generally speaking, Indonesian or not, people specify at the
    very least, the color of the bike they want if not the size,
    model and price 🙂
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-
    online.com

  9. The Nigeria scammers are at it again! NOTE: ANY time you
    receive payment for something you're selling, especially if
    they try to overpay you, call the issuing check institution
    to see if it's fraud! I'm sure these jackasses have ripped
    off more than a few people, fortunately I called and figured
    it out first. Perhaps they need a real job.......

    "Dave Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "LioNiNoiL at NetScApE_DoT_NeT" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:V7b9c.48971$Bg.4007@fed1read03...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Thompson said:

    I've made it a hobby of collecting these checks (see
    RBR thread here: forums.roadbikereview.comsho
    wthread.php?t=1612 and scroll down for pics)with the
    pretense of going along with their scheme, It's
    actually a great deal of fun, and if you collect
    enough checks like I did, you can have them framed and
    impress your friends.

    I love it!!

    I get a phoney offer of this type every couple of
    months, and it never occurred to me to play along with
    the hucksters, costing them time, postage, and whatever
    they pay for their bogus checks; but I'll do so now!

    Thanks for a great idea, Dave!


    Their time is not too costly, they spend most of it in
    internet cafes doing their deeds. What does cost them is
    the phoney checks and the FedEx from where ever to here. I
    called FedEx once after I received a check from Nigeria
    and was told that FedEx Next Day (the way the checks are
    often sent) is close to $50.00! So I figure if enough
    people play along until they get a check, these guys will
    feel it in their wallet. Plus it does make for some
    interesting e-mails.

  10. "Ryan Bates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Nigeria scammers are at it again! NOTE: ANY time you
    receive payment for something you're selling, especially
    if they try to overpay you, call the issuing check
    institution to see if it's fraud! I'm sure these jackasses
    have ripped off more than a few people, fortunately I
    called and figured it out first. Perhaps they need a real
    job.......


    No legitimate buyer is going to send you a check and *trust*
    you to send him the difference! So anytime that you get an
    offer of a cashiers check 'from a client' with instructions
    to send the 'excess funds' via Western Union or MoneyGram,
    it's a given that it is a scam! If you do receive a check,
    like Ryan Bates says; call the issuing institution for
    confirmation. If you deposit the check, your bank will give
    you the money because it assumes that the check is good.
    When the check gets returned to your bank as being *bad*,
    your bank will impound that amount of money from your
    account. If it can be determined that you knowingly
    deposited a fraudulent check, you could be prosecuted.

  11. Dave Thompson said:

    "Ryan Bates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Nigeria scammers are at it again! NOTE: ANY time you
    receive payment for something you're selling, especially
    if they try to overpay you, call the issuing check
    institution to see if it's fraud! I'm sure these jackasses
    have ripped off more than a few people, fortunately I
    called and figured it out first. Perhaps they need a real
    job.......

    No legitimate buyer is going to send you a check and
    *trust* you to send him the difference! So anytime that
    you get an offer of a cashiers check 'from a client' with
    instructions to send the 'excess funds' via Western Union
    or MoneyGram, it's a given that it is a scam! If you do
    receive a check, like Ryan Bates says; call the issuing
    institution for confirmation. If you deposit the check,
    your bank will give you the money because it assumes that
    the check is good. When the check gets returned to your
    bank as being *bad*, your bank will impound that amount of
    money from your account. If it can be determined that you
    knowingly deposited a fraudulent check, you could be
    prosecuted.

    If it sounds too good to be true. . .

    They keep doing it because there are a lot of gullible
    people without a lick of sense. Why get a real job if idiots
    will pay you for nothing?

    jim

  12. "JimLane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Thompson said:

    "Ryan Bates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The Nigeria scammers are at it again! NOTE: ANY time you
    receive payment for something you're selling, especially
    if they try to overpay you, call the issuing check
    institution to see if it's fraud! I'm sure these
    jackasses have ripped off more than a few people,
    fortunately I called and figured it out first. Perhaps
    they need a real job.......

    No legitimate buyer is going to send you a check and
    *trust* you to send


    him

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the difference! So anytime that you get an offer of a
    cashiers check


    'from a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    client' with instructions to send the 'excess funds' via
    Western Union


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MoneyGram, it's a given that it is a scam! If you do
    receive a check,


    like

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ryan Bates says; call the issuing institution for
    confirmation. If you deposit the check, your bank will
    give you the money because it assumes


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the check is good. When the check gets returned to your
    bank as being


    *bad*,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your bank will impound that amount of money from your
    account. If it can


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    determined that you knowingly deposited a fraudulent
    check, you could be prosecuted.

    If it sounds too good to be true. . .

    They keep doing it because there are a lot of gullible
    people without a lick of sense. Why get a real job if
    idiots will pay you for nothing?

    jim

    I agree.

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