Well, on my way towards London I see a bloke pushing his fridge up the road. I check behind, convertible mercedes approaching me. Cover brakes. Just as well, I get cut up & pushed to the kerb. I give the car a small slap as it goes past. It stops. I cycle past. It roars behind me I go onto wrong side of road. It roars onto wrong side of road behind me, then decides murder probably isn't a good idea. By which time I am stopped on the pavement. One very angry driver "You are crazy" .. "You nearly killed me" I respond. "You hit my car". "You pretty much hit me, and I wanted to let you know you were too close. If I can touch your car, you're too close. And your car isn't damaged".This point he puts his seatbelt back on. Probably put his gun back under the chair too (not a nice part of London).
It's not like I'm crawling along, most cars are courteous even around here. But a hell of a lot of drivers really don't give a monkey's about others lives ... Anyway .. got caught in the rain later, and I really didn't care at that point.
I wonder if it's the grotty weather today, making some motorists too impatient to get from A to B without getting their precious cages wet on thye outside? Even cyclign in my little bit of Norfolk I had a couple of encounters where the motorists were a tad too close for comfort.
I have cursed them. Revenge will be had when they least expect it.
Cheers, helen s
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Well, on my way towards London I see a bloke pushing his fridge up the road. I check behind, convertible mercedes approaching me. Cover brakes. Just as
Talking about Mercedes drivers... last night in Evelyn Street I saw one in a queue of traffic reading his Daily Telegraph. He deigned to leisurely fold it up when the lights changed and he moved off. Reading the paper when you're driving a car, and I bet you he was reading it sitting on the front passenger seat too, is a recipe for running a child down.
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Well, on my way towards London I see a bloke pushing his fridge up the
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I check behind, convertible mercedes approaching me. Cover brakes. Just as well, I get cut up & pushed to the kerb....
Isn't this similar to passing a parked car, where you need to be defensively positioned well in advance so that there is no risk of someone trying to squeeze you as you overtake the obstruction.
Well, on my way towards London I see a bloke pushing his fridge up the road. I check behind, convertible mercedes approaching me. Cover brakes. Just as
Talking about Mercedes drivers... last night in Evelyn Street I saw one in a queue of traffic reading his Daily Telegraph. He deigned to leisurely fold it up when the lights changed and he moved off. Reading the paper when you're driving a car, and I bet you he was reading it sitting on the front passenger seat too, is a recipe for running a child down.
yeah, and some cyclists ride on the pavement, and jump red lights.
fact is, there is a minority of drivers and cyclists who are [censored] - interested only in themselves.
of course the minority of drivers is numerically much greater than the minority of cyclists - not to mention the fact that they are in charge of a tonne of metal, at much greater speeds when compared to the cyclist.
the roads are dangerous places - and neither cycling, nor driving communities are guilt-free...
I wonder if it's the grotty weather today, making some motorists too impatient to get from A to B without getting their precious cages wet on thye outside? Even cyclign in my little bit of Norfolk I had a couple of encounters where the motorists were a tad too close for comfort.
I have cursed them. Revenge will be had when they least expect it.
Cheers, helen s
I too had a bad day as well with impatient motorists, maybe the weather is a factor. Reminds me of something I heard once...
Officer: Do you realise you were speeding sir? Driver: Yes, I was trying to get home before the fog got any worse!
the roads are dangerous places - and neither cycling, nor driving communities are guilt-free...
You forgot pedestrians...
as in:
"You see your honour I was walking along the street waving my knife around and this other pedestrian came out of nowhere and ran straight into my knife. I didn't seem him honest, guv. He was wearing dark clothing and was unlit to boot. Well naturally I panicked, I didn't know what to do. I noticed his wallet had fallen out so I picked it up, I had every intention of contacting him later but me phone was bust and im illiterate."
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Well, on my way towards London I see a bloke pushing his fridge up the
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I check behind, convertible mercedes approaching me. Cover brakes. Just
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well, I get cut up & pushed to the kerb....
Isn't this similar to passing a parked car, where you need to be
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positioned well in advance so that there is no risk of someone trying to squeeze you as you overtake the obstruction.
Another biker today covered his brakes as we approached each other on a reasonably fast path. I keep wondering whether it's my cycling or his confidence that is lacking .... ?
Passing a parked car involves looking into the vehicle more than keeping a door space clear. If the car is empty then there is no need to give a doors width. I always cover my brakes when I'm unsure or purely petrified. Today I knew that I'd be able to stop and still tap the car next to me. It was very close, but I still had a bunnyhop onto the kerb to perform when needed. Didn't use it, just tried to wake up the driver ...... it worked .. he was angry 😉
Another biker today covered his brakes as we approached each other on a reasonably fast path. I keep wondering whether it's my cycling or his confidence that is lacking .... ?
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Passing a parked car involves looking into the vehicle more than keeping a door space clear. If the car is empty then there is no need to give a doors width.
You will eventually get caught by the idiot who's lying down on the front seats either fiddling in the glove box or the foot well who then flings the door open.
I too had a bad day as well with impatient motorists, maybe the weather is a factor. Reminds me of something I heard once...
Officer: Do you realise you were speeding sir? Driver: Yes, I was trying to get home before the fog got any worse!
A former colleague of mine actually did something very similar to this. When stopped for speeding, he tried to excuse himself by saying that he didn't know what the speed limit was because it was too foggy to see the signs ...
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Passing a parked car involves looking into the vehicle more than keeping a door space clear....
I would rather look at the road than into cars!
You should be looking at all threats.
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If you keep a door space clear then you don't have to bother with looking into cars.
People opening doors is not all a parked car can do. It can drive out in front of you. A person can step from behind it. Something could be thrown from it. Etc. Looking into and through the windows can mean you see all of these threats.
And it doesn't top you looking at the road, although the road generally isn't a threat, it's the things on it and around it that are. -- "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.comOpen ↗
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Passing a parked car involves looking into the vehicle more than keeping a door space clear. If the car is empty then there is no need to give a doors width.
You will eventually get caught by the idiot who's lying down on the front seats either fiddling in the glove box or the foot well who then flings the door open.
Or in the case I saw, lying down across teh front seats in order to use both legs to catapult the door open at incredible speed.
I knew he was in teh car, because I'd seen his head disapear below the line of the windows, so was well out, but I didn't think even a motorist would be so mad as to fling a door open while he physically can't see out the vehicle, let alone do so with all teh force he could muster with two legs. If I'd been another car, he wouldn't have had a door left (there's not room for anything much wider than a bike to pass the parked cars taht wide on that street).
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People opening doors is not all a parked car can do. It can drive out in front of you. A person can step from behind it. Something could be thrown from it. Etc. Looking into and through the windows can mean you see all of these threats.
Did you know that the human eye detects *movement* far more vividly from the *periperal* vison?
With this biological fact in mind it makes sense to concentrate on your chosen path and let your periperal vision alert you to movements to the left or right which could constitute threats.
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People opening doors is not all a parked car can do. It can drive out in front of you. A person can step from behind it. Something could be thrown from it. Etc. Looking into and through the windows can mean you see all of these threats.
Did you know that the human eye detects *movement* far more vividly from the *periperal* vison?
Yes I do.
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With this biological fact in mind it makes sense to concentrate on your chosen path and let your periperal vision alert you to movements to the left or right which could constitute threats.
That makes a certain amount of sense but you can suffer from target fixation and also your peripheral vision is one of the first things to go when fatigued. Best trick I was ever taught was when learning to ride a motorcycle. I was taught to continually scan for threats. So look at the parked cars, look at the surface, look at the road along way ahead, look right, look left, look into side roads, look at the cars overtaking, and repeat ad nauseam.
Requires a bit of practice but after a while you do it without thinking about it and it means you pretty much cover everything. -- "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.comOpen ↗
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Best trick I was ever taught was when learning to ride a motorcycle. I was taught to continually scan for threats.
You know the angry stare as well then ... scares cagers into not pulling out in front of you.
"The Point" works well. You see someone in a side road or at a roundabout and they start to edge out. Arm straight out and point straight at them. Calls the attention of all the other drivers around to them and makes them feel quite small. -- "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.comOpen ↗
"The Point" works well. You see someone in a side road or at a roundabout and they start to edge out. Arm straight out and point straight at them. Calls the attention of all the other drivers around to them and makes them feel quite small.
