Old-Timers Question. . .

Oh yeah,

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And what? You can't even see the shifters in that photo.

Don't the Deore 6-speed levers have a friction setting? I'm
not good on this subject- I always ran Suntour.

Miles

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J'm Sm'th said:

Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets
here, is there any way I can disable the ratchet in the
old 6-speed shifter, reducing it to 'friction' mode?

Depends on the shifters. My old XT thumbies had a small
switch on the top for switching to friction mode. If you
have to ask though, I'm guessing you don't have that
option. So perhaps pulling them apart and pulling out the
ratchet system(?)

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 03:06:08 GMT, J'm Sm'th
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Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets
here, is there any way I can disable the ratchet in the old
6-speed shifter, reducing it to 'friction' mode?

Can't help on that - I'm surprised 6 speed thumbies are even
indexed, never mind lacking a friction option.

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*intake of breath* keep an eye on those bottom bracket
welds, now....

Pete

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Wow. Those 6 competing frame colors really help drive the
"Frankenbike" concept home. Trippy, man. To get the big,
dumb question out of the way, I guess your shifter doesn't
have that little nub along the side that you can slide
betwixt friction and index shifting? /s

Quoted message said:

So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is
operational, albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling
problem centers around pressing an old [censored] 6-speed
thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive train [yes,
Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].

If you don't have the little switch that slides to from
index to friction, you might be able to dissassemble them,
but it's kinda tricky.

The "clicks" caused by a small ball bearing (very small)
that settles into detents on a disc. On the older
Suntour shifters, you could flip the disc over, so the
ball just pressed on the smooth surface instead of the
detents, and you'd end up with the sweetest smoothest
friction thumbie ever. Not sure if works the same on the
Shimano, but if you're not married to the shifters, it
might be worth a shot.

Cheers,

-Andrew

J'm Sm'th said:

So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is
operational, albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling
problem centers around pressing an old [censored] 6-speed
thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive train [yes,
Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].

Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets
here, is there any way I can disable the ratchet in the
old 6-speed shifter, reducing it to 'friction' mode?

[For those interested, '99 Fisher supercaliber frame, new
Tange rigid fork, new seatpost, new BB, new headset,
scrounged everything else. The key find was the Avid
brakes and levers a buddy of mine was getting rid of since
he upgraded to disc brakes. It is pornographic to ride, to
say the least.]

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Damn, that's what all mountain bikes used to look like!
Where'd you find the worn out Ground Controls (at least
thats what they look like)? You don't have the lever on your
thumb shifter to switch to friction? Could've been broken
off. Anyway a shifter disassembly should show you the
offending detents . A little creative Dremel work, or
strategically located washer(s) should fix you up.

Shawn

J'm Sm'th said:

So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is
operational, albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling
problem centers around pressing an old [censored] 6-speed
thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive train [yes,
Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].

Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets
here, is there any way I can disable the ratchet in the
old 6-speed shifter, reducing it to 'friction' mode?

Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away
from the rider)?

Is it like this one?:

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Notice, the slider with one position labeled SIS. And then
notice that I have it in the other position.

Been pimping around town on this frankenbike for years. It's
my big- deal StumpJumper from the early 90's. Fruitcake-
pink, but it's thinwall steel, and it came with some pretty
good stuff on it for less than $1000 more than 10 years ago.
Came with a set of The XT Thumbies®. They aren't on the
bike. I keep them in a safe (undisclosed) location.
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Tom Purvis said:

J'm Sm'th said:

So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is
operational, albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling
problem centers around pressing an old [censored] 6-speed
thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive train [yes,
Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].

Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets
here, is there any way I can disable the ratchet in the
old 6-speed shifter, reducing it to 'friction' mode?

Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away
from the rider)?

Is it like this one?:

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Love the bell.

Bill "bee nightmares" S.

(Tom Purvis) said:

Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away
from the rider)?

Is it like this one?:

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Oh Hell No. These are crappy plastic POS [censored] 6-speed
shifters. Sounds like a disassembly job to me. Now, the
happy Happy Suntours, they do that. But, alas, they
aren't here yet.

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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Pete Jones <[email hidden]>

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*intake of breath* keep an eye on those bottom bracket
welds, now....

No [censored]. It's already a little creaky, which means I'm
going to go over the whole thing with my torque wrench
[again] and make sure it's totally spec. Might even re-
install the BB with teflon tape. It's a commuter bomb, so
hopefully I won't be doing 4' drops with it.

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(Andrew Thorne) said:

If you don't have the little switch that slides to from
index to friction, you might be able to dissassemble them,
but it's kinda tricky.

The "clicks" caused by a small ball bearing (very small)
that settles into detents on a disc. On the older
Suntour shifters, you could flip the disc over, so the
ball just pressed on the smooth surface instead of the
detents, and you'd end up with the sweetest smoothest
friction thumbie ever. Not sure if works the same on the
Shimano, but if you're not married to the shifters, it
might be worth a shot.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Ah, there's advice I can use. Now I'm off to surf [censored]
for a decent diagram.
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:27:02 GMT, Shawn Curry <[email hidden]>

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Damn, that's what all mountain bikes used to look like!
Where'd you find the worn out Ground Controls (at least
thats what they look like)?

Actually, those are Kenda Kross's. Lotsa nice thick tread in
the middle for Das KommutenBiken.

Quoted message said:

You don't have the lever on your thumb shifter to switch
to friction? Could've been broken off. Anyway a shifter
disassembly should show you the offending detents . A
little creative Dremel work, or strategically located
washer(s) should fix you up.

Shawn

Dremel is warming up. ..

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You're my hero! I envy anyone who can get away with setting
up the bike stand in the living room. It's a fine accessory,
but my wife seems to think it clashes with the "decor" (with
apologies to "Dan V"😉

Tom

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You're my hero! I envy anyone who can get away with
setting up the bike stand in the living room. It's a fine
accessory, but my wife seems to

think

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it clashes with the "decor" (with apologies to "Dan V"😉

Tom

Thanks...but to be honest, that was one of my rooms at my
dad's house...the whole upstairs was mine, so, you know,
bikes and TV in one room, bed and such in another.

Though, now that I have a house just off campus, my bikes
are in the living room about 6 feet from the kitchen. I can
smell the rotten ass stinking mud while I make breakfast.

I believe your setback is the "wife" quotient - college kids
have no such problem. Not that that's a problem, per se, but
hey...usually it's the woman or the ride. I'm in college -
there are lots of women 🙂

Chris (kept a bike in the fireplace once)

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On 6 Apr 2004 06:28:31 -0700

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Wow. Those 6 competing frame colors really help drive the
"Frankenbike" concept home. Trippy, man. To get the big,
dumb question out of the way, I guess your shifter doesn't
have that little nub along the side that you can slide
betwixt friction and index shifting? /s

Reality is for folks that can't afford hallucinogenics.

My sad reality is that this 6-speed shifter is truly a POS,
having neither the selector nub nor the 'tiny ball' to do
its bidding. It has but a crappy piece of plastic that
slides along notches on the inside of the shifter.

The answer?

Use the left-hand shifter on the right hand side, turned
upside down.

Yeah, baby!

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The answer?

Use the left-hand shifter on the right hand side, turned
upside down.

Yeah, baby!

Now THAT's Frankenbike thinking. I like it.

When does it get fenders?

Cheers,

-Andrew