130 miles

Kevan Smith said:

Yesterday, I made my longest ride ever. It was a 130-mile
route from here to Natchitoches (Nack'-ih-tush), LA, and
back with members of the local bike club. We averaged 17.2
for the trip, and, boy, was I knackered at the end! A ride
of that length and intensity turns the smallest pains over
time into a major hurt.

No kidding. I'm still jealous though.

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My lower back was killing me, and I have a really sore
hamstring again.

Even though I have a "strong" lower back from
weightlifting, I was still getting lower back pain (really
fatigue not true pain) on long rides. Additional high-rep
hypertensions solved this problem for me. As a bonus they
also work your hams.

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Kevan Smith wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My lower back was killing me, and I have a really sore
hamstring again.

Even though I have a "strong" lower back from
weightlifting, I was still getting lower back pain (really
fatigue not true pain) on long rides. Additional high-rep
hypertensions solved this problem for me. As a bonus they
also work your hams.

exrx.netBBHypereOpen ↗
xtension.html

How flexible are you?

About lifting weights? Not very. I don't like it at all,
so I refuse.

This was early-season soreness. I'll be stronger and able to
handle the longer rides by the end of the season.

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice, though. 🙂

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Congratulations! That's a "metric double", 200 kilometers.
No find a seamstress and have her/him make you a nice patch,
then go out and celebrate.

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potato.com says...

Quoted message said:

Yesterday, I made my longest ride ever. It was a 130-mile
route from here to Natchitoches (Nack'-ih-tush), LA, and
back with members of the local bike club. We averaged 17.2
for the trip, and, boy, was I knackered at the end! A ride
of that length and intensity turns the smallest pains over
time into a major hurt. My lower back was killing me, and
I have a really sore hamstring again.

Still, the ride was awesome. The weather was great and the
roads were mostly smooth and flat, but there was a head
wind both ways. I had a catfish poboy in Natchitoches,
which was quite tasty and proved to be the perfect fuel
for the leg back. The scenery was decent, and the company
was good.

All told, Sunday was an excellent riding day.

You lucky dog! Here Sunday was cool (40's F) and cloudy,
with a chance of rain, and though we didn't get any, many
areas around us did.

Congrats on the double metric century!

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:28:41 -0400, Top Sirloin
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Kevan Smith wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My lower back was killing me, and I have a really sore
hamstring again.

Even though I have a "strong" lower back from
weightlifting, I was still getting lower back pain
(really fatigue not true pain) on long rides. Additional
high-rep hypertensions solved this problem for me. As a
bonus they also work your hams.

exrx.netBBHypeOpen ↗
rextension.html

How flexible are you?

About lifting weights? Not very. I don't like it at all,
so I refuse.

This was early-season soreness. I'll be stronger and able
to handle the

longer

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rides by the end of the season.

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice, though. 🙂

Do you perform any sort of weight bearing exercise to keep
up your bone density. I know you hate BUYcycling, but there
was an excellent article a couple of issues back about the
lack of bone density in long distance cyclists. You don't
want to be breaking hips in the future, Kev.... But
congratulations on the ride. Natchitoches is a neat town. I
went to high school there for a year. Kind of a classic Old
South town....

Kevan Smith said:

All told, Sunday was an excellent riding day.

Congratulations, Kevan! Now all you gotta do is repeat that
22 times in 24 days and we'll start calling you Lance. ;-)

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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:34:26 -0400 (EDT), [email hidden] (Chris Zacho

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Congratulations! That's a "metric double", 200 kilometers.
No find a seamstress and have her/him make you a nice
patch, then go out and celebrate.

Man, that would be so geeky!

Come to think of it, there is a seamster right across from
the AFB here ....

Are there any "official" designs?

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Kevan Smith said:

All told, Sunday was an excellent riding day.

Congratulations, Kevan! Now all you gotta do is repeat
that 22 times in 24 days and we'll start calling you
Lance. ;-)

Mark Hickey

Isn't that an amazing perspective on Le Tour? Two weeks ago
a friend and I rode 113 miles from Anderson, SC to the top
of Caesar's Head (a legendary local climb ... 6.5 miles at
an average of 7%) and back. We took in a smaller mountain
going up and back. The back side of that smaller mountain on
the return trip was incredible. It had a section of about
1/3 mile that was 16%. Hitting that at 75 miles with several
thousand feet of climbing already in the legs was murder.
Like Kevan said, all kinds of stuff that usually doesn't get
sore was sore after that. And all I could keep thinking
towards the end was, that would have been only a moderate
tour stage.

Hey Kevan ... great job. You're gonna feel unbeatable on the
bike over the next couple of days.

Bob C.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:51:02 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> from

RoadRunner - Tampa Bay said:

Do you perform any sort of weight bearing exercise to keep
up your bone density. I know you hate BUYcycling, but there
was an excellent article a couple of issues back about the
lack of bone density in long distance cyclists. You don't
want to be breaking hips in the future, Kev.... But
congratulations on the ride. Natchitoches is a neat town. I
went to high school there for a year. Kind of a classic Old
South town....

I love Natchitoches. It's an "undiscovered treasure" in
Louisiana, an almost perfect combination of college town and
old-fashioned charm.

AS far as upper body exercise goes, I work. 🙂

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Do you perform any sort of weight bearing exercise to keep
up your bone density. I know you hate BUYcycling, but
there was an excellent article a couple of issues back
about the lack of bone density in long distance cyclists.

I thought that article was bs. If all you ever did was
either do long rides or sit on the couch, maybe. I don't
know about most of you, but I do other forms of exercise.
Heck, probably just climbing/descending the two flights of
stairs between where I park the bike in the parking garage
and the main building lobby probably does something for bone
density, and I do that every day.

I remember a study where if kids just jumped up and down for
five minutes a day and it had a tremendous measurable effect
on their bone density. So you could just do that -- jump up
and down -- and prevent all kinds of problems.

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"Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Do you perform any sort of weight bearing exercise to
keep up your bone density. I know you hate BUYcycling,
but there was an excellent article a couple of issues
back about the lack of bone density in long distance
cyclists.

I thought that article was bs. If all you ever did was
either do long rides or sit on the couch, maybe. I don't
know about most of you, but I do other forms of exercise.
Heck, probably just climbing/descending the two flights of
stairs between where I park the bike in the parking garage
and the main building lobby probably does something for
bone density, and I do that every day.

Probably, but many people live on ground level, or take the
elevator. Note that the article also pointed out that the
intensity of your workouts was a major factor: sweating
caused a significantly accelerated depletion of calcium
compared to an easier workout. It was really only a factor
for people who were on their bikes for several hours a day,
nearly every day.

Quoted message said:

I remember a study where if kids just jumped up and down
for five minutes a day and it had a tremendous measurable
effect on their bone density. So you could just do that --
jump up and down -- and prevent all kinds of problems.

But how many cyclists do that routinely? Jumping rope would
probably do it, too. I just try to get on the treadmill for
a half-hour once a week or so when soccer season isn't
going. During the season, refereeing soccer games gives me
more than enough weight-bearing exercise.

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Kevan Smith said:

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:28:41 -0400, Top Sirloin
<[email hidden]> from Posted
via Supernews,

Quoted message said:

How flexible are you?

About lifting weights? Not very. I don't like it at all,
so I refuse.

Really? I haven't found many guys who don't find a perfect
[censored] to be exciting. :-)

Quoted message said:

This was early-season soreness. I'll be stronger and able
to handle the longer rides by the end of the season.

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice, though. 🙂

I was thinking more about your ham/glute/lower back
flexibility.

Can you touch your toes? Can you do it while maintaining an
arch in your back?

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:39:17 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]> from

Habanero Cycles said:

Kevan Smith said:

All told, Sunday was an excellent riding day.

Congratulations, Kevan! Now all you gotta do is repeat that
22 times in 24 days and we'll start calling you Lance. ;-)

Around these parts, the better known Lance is a product line
of snack foods. Their current slogan is -- no kidding -- "I
got Lance in my pants." lance.comlance.comOpen ↗ . They make
the Toastchee®, the famous peanut butter and cheese sandwich
cracker. Mmmmmm.

I will b e doing longer rides this year. Honestly, I'm kind
of tired of the 30- and 40-mile loops here, and I'm ready to
branch out into some long distance rides. A century every
weekend sounds good. We'll see.

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:35:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
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url='http://www.supernews.com/'http://www.supernews.com/url said:

Kevan Smith wrote:

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Really? I haven't found many guys who don't find a perfect
[censored] to be exciting. :-)

Nasty!

Anyway, there's no such thing as "perfect."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This was early-season soreness. I'll be stronger and able
to handle the longer rides by the end of the season.

I appreciate the good-intentioned advice, though. 🙂

I was thinking more about your ham/glute/lower back
flexibility.

Can you touch your toes? Can you do it while maintaining an
arch in your back?

I do yoga enough to stay flexible. I can touch my toes, but
right now, it's my belly that is the hindrance, not my back.
That should be taken care of by fall.

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"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I will b e doing longer rides this year. Honestly, I'm
kind of tired of

the 30-

Quoted message said:

and 40-mile loops here, and I'm ready to branch out into
some long

distance

Quoted message said:

rides. A century every weekend sounds good. We'll see.

Brevets!

www.rusa.org

There's a 200k and 300k in New Orleans May 1

Mike Kruger' email hidden from said:

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I will b e doing longer rides this year. Honestly, I'm
kind of tired of

the 30-

Quoted message said:

and 40-mile loops here, and I'm ready to branch out into
some long

distance

Quoted message said:

rides. A century every weekend sounds good. We'll see.

Brevets!

www.rusa.org

There's a 200k and 300k in New Orleans May 1

I'd love to do one of those rides. When they start
scheduling them around my few days off ....

Pet peeve: Why are most big organized rides on a Saturday? I
WANT SUNDAYS!

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 01:24:32 GMT, "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-

potato.com from said:

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I will b e doing longer rides this year. Honestly, I'm
kind of tired of

the 30-

Quoted message said:

and 40-mile loops here, and I'm ready to branch out
into some long

distance

Quoted message said:

rides. A century every weekend sounds good. We'll see.

Brevets!

www.rusa.org

There's a 200k and 300k in New Orleans May 1

I'd love to do one of those rides. When they start
scheduling them around my few days off ....

Pet peeve: Why are most big organized rides on a Saturday?
I WANT SUNDAYS!

So you get a day to recover before you have to go back to
work on Monday <GGG>.

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Quoted message said:

Pet peeve: Why are most big organized rides on a Saturday?
I WANT SUNDAYS!

They are? Around here they always do Sundays, whereas I'd
prefer Saturdays. Perhaps we could swap homes?

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Communications said:

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Kevan@mouse- potato.com says...

Quoted message said:

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 01:24:32 GMT, "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-

potato.com from said:

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

> I will b e doing longer rides this year. Honestly, I'm
> kind of tired of
the 30-
> and 40-mile loops here, and I'm ready to branch out
> into some long
distance
> rides. A century every weekend sounds good. We'll see.
>
Brevets!

www.rusa.org

There's a 200k and 300k in New Orleans May 1

I'd love to do one of those rides. When they start
scheduling them around my few days off ....

Pet peeve: Why are most big organized rides on a
Saturday? I WANT SUNDAYS!

So you get a day to recover before you have to go back to
work on Monday <GGG>.

Monday is one of my days off. Grrr.

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