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  1. ham The cut of meat from a hog's hind leg, generally from
    the middle of the shank bone to the aitch (hip) bone. The
    actual length of the cut varies according to the producer.
    The unprocessed meat is referred to as "fresh ham". When
    buying a "fresh ham", look for one with a firm white layer
    of fat, with well-marbled lean portion. In younger animals,
    the meat should be a grayish-pink color; older pork should
    be a delicate shade of rose. Loosen any packaging material
    and store the "fresh ham" in the coldest part of the
    refrigerator for up to 5 days.

    © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based
    on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon
    Tyler Herbst.

    --= FRESH HAM WITH CRACKLINGS AND PAN GRAVY =--

    an 8- to 10-pound fresh ham (shank and leg of pork)
    vegetable oil for rubbing the ham 1 tablespoon coarse salt
    1/2 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    2/2 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    3/2 teaspoon pepper 1 teaspoon English-style dry mustard 12
    ounces beer (not dark)

    watercress sprigs for garnish

    For the gravy 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour 1 cup
    beef broth
    4/2 teaspoon English-style mustard
    5/4 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    6/8 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    7/4 teaspoon sugar 2 teaspoons cider vinegar

    With a small sharp knife [censored] the ham skin all over, make
    4 parallel
    8/2-inch-deep incisions through the skin the entire length
    of the ham, and rub the ham lightly with the oil. In a
    small bowl rub together the coarse salt, the thyme, the
    sage, the pepper, and the mustard and rub the mixture over
    the entire surface of the ham. Put the ham on a roasting
    rack set in a roasting pan and put the pan in a preheated
    500°F. oven. Reduce the temperature immediately to 325°F.>
    and roast the ham for 1 hour. Pour half the beer over the
    ham, roast the ham for 30 minutes more, and pour the
    remaining beer over the ham. Roast the ham for 2 1/2 hours
    more, or until a meat thermometer registers 170°F., and
    let it cool on the rack in the pan for 15 minutes. Pull
    off the brown crisp skin, leaving the layer of fat on the
    ham, with scissors cut the skin into small pieces, and
    arrange the cracklings in one layer in a baking pan.
    Sprinkle the cracklings with salt and bake them in the
    middle of a preheated 350°F. oven, stirring occasionally,
    for 15 minutes, or until they are crisp and browned.
    Transfer the cracklings to paper towels and let them
    drain. Cut the remaining fat from the ham, slice the meat
    thinly across the grain, and arrange it on a platter. Keep
    the ham warm, covered.

    Skim off the fat from the juices in the roasting pan, add 1
    cup water, and deglaze the pan over moderate heat, scraping
    up the brown bits. Transfer the liquid to a saucepan. In a
    small bowl whisk together the flour and 1/4 cup of the broth
    until the flour is dissolved and whisk the mixture into the
    deglazing liquid with the remaining 3/4 cup broth, the
    mustard, the sage, the thyme, and the vinegar and pepper to
    taste, and simmer the gravy, whisking, for 5 minutes.

    Garnish the ham with the cracklings and the watercress
    sprigs and serve it with the gravy.

    Gourmet March 1990

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  2. Quoted message said:

    ham The cut of meat from a hog's hind leg, generally from
    the middle of the shank bone to the aitch (hip) bone. The
    actual length of the cut varies according to the producer.
    The unprocessed meat is referred to as "fresh ham". When
    buying a "fresh ham", look for one with a firm white layer
    of fat, with well-marbled lean portion. In younger animals,
    the meat should be a grayish-pink color; older pork should
    be a delicate shade of rose. Loosen any packaging material
    and store the "fresh ham" in the coldest part of the
    refrigerator for up to 5 days.

    © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based
    on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon
    Tyler Herbst.

    ROAST FRESH HAM, STUFFED from COOKS.COM

    4 to 5 lb. fresh ham, boned weight, tied1/4 c. fresh
    parsley1/4 c. Romano cheese, grated1 slice fresh bread
    crumbs1 to 2 cloves garlic, minced, depending on how garlicy
    you likeBlack pepper to taste1 tbsp. olive oil Combine
    stuffing ingredients and put into cavity created by the
    boning. Place roast in a pan with sliced onion around. Roast
    in a 325 degree oven for 20 to 25 minutes per pound. When
    done, remove roast from pan and skin as much fat as
    possible. Add a small amount of water to deglaze. Add
    chicken bouillon if desired and thicken with flour to
    desired consistency for gravy.

    NOTE: Make sure the ham is well tied.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  3. "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> blabbered

    Quoted message said:

    --= FRESH HAM WITH CRACKLINGS AND PAN GRAVY =--

    an 8- to 10-pound fresh ham (shank and leg of pork)
    vegetable oil for rubbing the ham 1 tablespoon coarse salt
    1/2 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    1/2 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    1/2 teaspoon pepper 1 teaspoon English-style dry mustard
    12 ounces beer (not dark)

    watercress sprigs for garnish

    For the gravy 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour 1 cup
    beef broth
    1/2 teaspoon English-style mustard
    1/4 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    1/8 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    1/4 teaspoon sugar 2 teaspoons cider vinegar

    With a small sharp knife [censored] the ham skin all over, make
    4 parallel
    1/2-inch-deep incisions through the skin the entire length
    of the ham, and


    rub

    Quoted message said:

    the ham lightly with the oil. In a small bowl rub together
    the coarse


    salt, the

    Quoted message said:

    thyme, the sage, the pepper, and the mustard and rub the
    mixture over the entire surface of the ham. Put the ham on
    a roasting rack set in a


    roasting pan

    Quoted message said:

    and put the pan in a preheated 500°F. oven. Reduce the
    temperature


    immediately

    Quoted message said:

    to 325°F.> and roast the ham for 1 hour. Pour half the
    beer over the ham,


    roast

    Quoted message said:

    the ham for 30 minutes more, and pour the remaining beer
    over the ham.


    Roast

    Quoted message said:

    the ham for 2 1/2 hours more, or until a meat thermometer
    registers


    170°F., and

    Quoted message said:

    let it cool on the rack in the pan for 15 minutes. Pull
    off the brown


    crisp

    Quoted message said:

    skin, leaving the layer of fat on the ham, with scissors
    cut the skin into small pieces, and arrange the cracklings
    in one layer in a baking pan.


    Sprinkle

    Quoted message said:

    the cracklings with salt and bake them in the middle of a
    preheated 350°F. oven, stirring occasionally, for 15
    minutes, or until they are crisp and browned. Transfer the
    cracklings to paper towels and let them drain. Cut


    the

    Quoted message said:

    remaining fat from the ham, slice the meat thinly across
    the grain, and


    arrange

    Quoted message said:

    it on a platter. Keep the ham warm, covered.

    Skim off the fat from the juices in the roasting pan, add
    1 cup water, and deglaze the pan over moderate heat,
    scraping up the brown bits. Transfer


    the

    Quoted message said:

    liquid to a saucepan. In a small bowl whisk together the
    flour and 1/4 cup


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the broth until the flour is dissolved and whisk the
    mixture into the


    deglazing

    Quoted message said:

    liquid with the remaining 3/4 cup broth, the mustard, the
    sage, the thyme,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    the vinegar and pepper to taste, and simmer the gravy,
    whisking, for 5


    minutes.

    Quoted message said:


    Garnish the ham with the cracklings and the watercress
    sprigs and serve it


    with

    Quoted message said:

    the gravy.

    Gourmet March 1990

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move
    UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ````````````

    So with all YOUse culinary talent WTF is the recipe FOR??

    SO YOU do have recipes and save them.. and then LIE about
    it. MasterCook or pencil and toilet tissue? Do you put in
    your teeth or just give em a good gummin..?

    AHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahah

  4. "larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "PENMART01" <[email hidden]> blabbered

    Quoted message said:

    --= FRESH HAM WITH CRACKLINGS AND PAN GRAVY =--

    an 8- to 10-pound fresh ham (shank and leg of pork)
    vegetable oil for rubbing the ham 1 tablespoon
    coarse salt
    1/2 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    1/2 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    1/2 teaspoon pepper 1 teaspoon English-style dry mustard
    12 ounces beer (not dark)

    watercress sprigs for garnish

    For the gravy 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour 1 cup
    beef broth
    1/2 teaspoon English-style mustard
    1/4 teaspoon crumbled dried sage
    1/8 teaspoon dried thyme, crumbled
    1/4 teaspoon sugar 2 teaspoons cider vinegar

    With a small sharp knife [censored] the ham skin all over,
    make 4 parallel
    1/2-inch-deep incisions through the skin the entire
    length of the ham,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    rub

    Quoted message said:

    the ham lightly with the oil. In a small bowl rub
    together the coarse


    salt, the

    Quoted message said:

    thyme, the sage, the pepper, and the mustard and rub the
    mixture over


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    entire surface of the ham. Put the ham on a roasting
    rack set in a


    roasting pan

    Quoted message said:

    and put the pan in a preheated 500°F. oven. Reduce the
    temperature


    immediately

    Quoted message said:

    to 325°F.> and roast the ham for 1 hour. Pour half the
    beer over the


    ham,

    Quoted message said:

    roast

    Quoted message said:

    the ham for 30 minutes more, and pour the remaining beer
    over the ham.


    Roast

    Quoted message said:

    the ham for 2 1/2 hours more, or until a meat
    thermometer registers


    170°F., and

    Quoted message said:

    let it cool on the rack in the pan for 15 minutes. Pull
    off the brown


    crisp

    Quoted message said:

    skin, leaving the layer of fat on the ham, with scissors
    cut the skin


    into

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small pieces, and arrange the cracklings in one layer in
    a baking pan.


    Sprinkle

    Quoted message said:

    the cracklings with salt and bake them in the middle of
    a preheated


    350°F.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    oven, stirring occasionally, for 15 minutes, or until
    they are crisp and browned. Transfer the cracklings to
    paper towels and let them drain. Cut


    the

    Quoted message said:

    remaining fat from the ham, slice the meat thinly across
    the grain, and


    arrange

    Quoted message said:

    it on a platter. Keep the ham warm, covered.

    Skim off the fat from the juices in the roasting pan,
    add 1 cup water,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deglaze the pan over moderate heat, scraping up the
    brown bits. Transfer


    the

    Quoted message said:

    liquid to a saucepan. In a small bowl whisk together the
    flour and 1/4


    cup

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    the broth until the flour is dissolved and whisk the
    mixture into the


    deglazing

    Quoted message said:

    liquid with the remaining 3/4 cup broth, the mustard,
    the sage, the


    thyme,

    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    the vinegar and pepper to taste, and simmer the gravy,
    whisking, for 5


    minutes.

    Quoted message said:


    Garnish the ham with the cracklings and the watercress
    sprigs and serve


    it

    Quoted message said:

    with

    Quoted message said:

    the gravy.

    Gourmet March 1990

    I've actually made this recipe. It is quite good, but takes
    a long time.

  5. "larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    So with all YOUse culinary talent WTF is the recipe FOR??

    WTF do you care? Some of us appreciate the recipes since
    this is a food and cooking newsgroup.

  6. "> this is how we do our hams , we have very large ones on
    high days and holidays.

    in a very large stock pot/pan pop in the ham and add water
    to cover. Bring to the boil and remove ham and all the scum.
    add fresh water, ham and add a couple of chopped carrots and
    onions, coarsley ground black peppercorns (no salt) and a
    couple of bay leaves.[censored] with cloves if desired. Bring
    back to the boil and turn down the heat to a good simmer and
    simmer for about an hour to an hour and a half.drain well
    and then place the ham in a roasting dish and roast until
    done.( about the same length of time again as the simmering--
    depending on the size of the piece) the pre-boiling gets rid
    of any excess saltiness and also allows the ham to be well
    cooked without drying out.

  7. (paula) said:

    "> this is how we do our hams , we have very large ones on
    high days and holidays.

    in a very large stock pot/pan pop in the ham and add water
    to cover. Bring to the boil and remove ham and all the
    scum. add fresh water, ham and add a couple of chopped
    carrots and onions, coarsley ground black peppercorns (no
    salt) and a couple of bay leaves.[censored] with cloves if
    desired. Bring back to the boil and turn down the heat to a
    good simmer and simmer for about an hour to an hour and a
    half.drain well and then place the ham in a roasting dish
    and roast until done.( about the same length of time again
    as the simmering--depending on the size of the piece) the
    pre-boiling gets rid of any excess saltiness and also
    allows the ham to be well cooked without drying out.

    Psst... fresh hams (unlike cured hams) don't have any salt
    :>

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  8. (paula) said:

    "> this is how we do our hams , we have very large ones on
    high days and holidays.

    in a very large stock pot/pan pop in the ham and add water
    to cover. Bring to the boil and remove ham and all the
    scum. add fresh water, ham and add a couple of chopped
    carrots and onions, coarsley ground black peppercorns (no
    salt) and a couple of bay leaves.[censored] with cloves if
    desired. Bring back to the boil and turn down the heat to a
    good simmer and simmer for about an hour to an hour and a
    half.drain well and then place the ham in a roasting dish
    and roast until done.( about the same length of time again
    as the simmering--depending on the size of the piece) the
    pre-boiling gets rid of any excess saltiness and also
    allows the ham to be well cooked without drying out.

    Braising or boiling, then roasting a piece of meat can and
    will really dry it out. Never apply dry heat after a long
    braise or boil.

    JOC (or was it Julia) agrees with me.

    -sw

  9. [email hidden] (Curly Sue) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2 Apr 2004 14:16:36 -0800, [email hidden]

    (paula) said:

    "> this is how we do our hams , we have very large ones
    on high days and

    Psst... fresh hams (unlike cured hams) don't have
    any salt :>

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it
    myself!

    i do not buy cured hams , but even so sometimes they can be
    slightly salty just by the very nature of the animal, and as
    i stated i have a salt free diet plus i do not like salt so
    i can taste any little bit.maybe you are just lucky and have
    never come across one but that does not mean you never will.

  10. (paula) said:

    [email hidden] (Curly Sue) wrote in message news:<406e0788.1344462@news-
    server.nyc.rr.com>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2 Apr 2004 14:16:36 -0800, [email hidden]

    (paula) said:

    "> this is how we do our hams , we have very large ones
    on high days and

    Psst... fresh hams (unlike cured hams) don't have any
    salt :>

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it
    myself!

    i do not buy cured hams , but even so sometimes they can
    be slightly salty just by the very nature of the animal,
    and as i stated i have a salt free diet plus i do not like
    salt so i can taste any little bit.maybe you are just
    lucky and have never come across one but that does not
    mean you never will.

    You said:
    Quoted message said:

    cloves if desired. Bring back to the boil and turn down
    the heat to a good simmer and simmer for about an hour to
    an hour and a half.drain well and then place the ham in a
    roasting dish and roast until done.( about the same length
    of time again as the simmering--depending on the size of
    the piece) the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess
    saltiness and also allows the ham to be well cooked
    without drying out.

    You were talking about "excess saltiness." A fresh ham is
    not salty, nevermind excessively salty, unless perhaps it
    has been brined or injected.

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    size of the piece) the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess
    saltiness

    Quoted message said:

    and also allows the ham to be well cooked without
    drying out.

    You were talking about "excess saltiness." A fresh ham is
    not salty, nevermind excessively salty, unless perhaps it
    has been brined or injected.

    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess saltiness" I
    never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY salty--you did
    by mis quoting
    me.

  12. "paula" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess saltiness"
    I never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY salty--you
    did by mis quoting
    me.

    For a fresh ham? Fresh hams have NO salt added, hence the
    name "fresh" as opposed to "cured" hams. Ed

  13. "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    "paula" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess
    saltiness" I never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY
    salty--you did by mis quoting
    me.

    For a fresh ham? Fresh hams have NO salt added, hence the
    name "fresh" as opposed to "cured" hams. Ed

    Another name for fresh ham is leg of pork or (if my memory
    serves) gammon. Ham is a cured leg of pork (usually).
    Perhaps you meant freshly cured ham?

    There are differing cures used to make ham, but ham is
    treated pork...to extend the life of the meat...before
    fridges. Most cures are either salt or sugar based.

    These days grocers/meat packers like to include cured pork
    shoulder roast (picnic ham) in the ham family as well.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  14. "paula" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    size of the piece) the pre-boiling gets rid of any
    excess saltiness
    >and also allows the ham to be well cooked without
    >drying out.

    You were talking about "excess saltiness." A fresh ham
    is not salty, nevermind excessively salty, unless
    perhaps it has been brined or injected.

    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess saltiness"
    I never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY salty--you
    did by mis quoting
    me.

    I think the confusion is from the term "fresh ham." A ham
    is simply a pig's thigh, and the term "fresh ham" means a
    ham that has not been cured, salted, smoked, or anything
    else - it is essentially just a big pork roast. FOr many
    people however the term "ham" automatically means smoked
    and/or cured.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  15. Quoted message said:

    "paula" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >size of the piece) the pre-boiling gets rid of any
    >excess saltiness
    >>and also allows the ham to be well cooked without
    >>drying out.

    You were talking about "excess saltiness." A fresh ham
    is not salty, nevermind excessively salty, unless
    perhaps it has been brined or injected.

    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess
    saltiness" I never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY
    salty--you did by mis quoting
    me.

    Get real. "EXCESSIVELY salty" and "excess saltiness" are
    the same thing. You can't wiggle out of that one with
    word games.

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  16. hahabogus said:


    Another name for fresh ham is leg of pork or (if my
    memory serves) gammon.

    Say gambon and I'd understand you. In any case, now you know
    why human legs (of the female type) were called "gams" in
    WWII days.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  17. "sf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    hahabogus said:


    Another name for fresh ham is leg of pork or (if my
    memory serves)


    gammon.

    Quoted message said:


    Say gambon and I'd understand you. In any case, now you
    know why human legs (of the female type) were called
    "gams" in WWII days.

    I had always wondered where that came from! You never know
    what useful bits of info you'll pick up here.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  18. Peter Aitken said:


    I had always wondered where that came from! You never
    know what useful bits of info you'll pick up here.

    <S>

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  19. (Curly Sue) said:

    Get real. "EXCESSIVELY salty" and "excess saltiness" are
    the same thing. You can't wiggle out of that one with
    word games.

    Um...if you have health concerns that prohibit even the
    normal use of salt, something can have excess salt even if
    it isn't excessively salty. Even a pinch of salt can be too
    much if it causes heart and lung problems.

    Unfortunately, some people do have that problem. My mother,
    for instance. No brined foods in our house, sadly.

    wd40

  20. On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:13:41 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "paula" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    I quote "the pre-boiling gets rid of any excess
    saltiness" I never mentioned the ham as being EXCESSIVELY
    salty--you did by mis quoting
    me.

    For a fresh ham? Fresh hams have NO salt added, hence the
    name "fresh" as opposed to "cured" hams. Ed


    Isn't "fresh ham" an oxymoron?

    If it isn't smoked, etc. it is some cut of pork. Like a
    pork roast??

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