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  1. I have got a KH24 and I am thinking about puting a Cane
    Creek thudbuster on it. What are the pros and cons of having
    a suspension seatpost on a muni?

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  2. Pros: ??? Not too many. You don't usually land on the seat
    when dropping. It might help a little bit on MUni rides if
    there are some minor bumps. If you land a drop and are
    sitting, it will probably bounce you of the saddle.

    Cons: heavier, expensive, not exactly needed... someone else
    may continue.

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  3. cons (cont'd)

    The effective distance between the seat and hub will vary
    constantly.

    next?

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  4. I'd invest in an air saddle rather than a suspension post.
    I'm amazed at how much better I feel after a ride since I
    installed my air saddle on my MUni

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  5. cons (cont'd)

    They aren't desigbed to take the twisting forces that the
    rider applies while unicycling

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  6. I have suspension posts on two of my MUnis. Perhaps I
    am better qualified to comment than people who don't
    have any. 😉

    One is a Thudbuster Uni-Pivot on my carbon MUni. It was a
    great post but they don't make it any more. The name was
    very cool by the way! I think the newer Thudbuster products
    are better than the Uni-Pivot though, and don't have a
    twisting problem.

    Other advantage to the Thudbusters I'm familiar with, they
    don't have mechanisms going to the bottom of the post, like
    telescoping posts do. No length problems.

    My other suspension post is this one:
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp At
    $25, you can hardly go wrong. Drawback of this and similar
    posts is that the mechanism takes up the whole post. You
    can't just cut off the bottom on this one, because that's
    where the preload screw is. I cut off half the threading
    to take away about 3/8", but my seat is still a little
    high for the rough stuff. However, the post has held up
    fine, and it works.

    The amount of benefit you get from a suspension post depends
    on your type of riding. If you're doing trials, you don't
    really sit down that much, and suspension would just be
    extra weight. I guess it boils down to how much sitting down
    you do. Suspension would probably be really good for road
    riding, if you can get it to work with your Coker or other
    road machine.

    My Pyramid post paid for itself in one day at Moab. The
    harder the riding surface, the more you're going to
    appreciate it. Moab is solid rock. On the Sacramento area
    trails, the dirt is pretty soft and pliable in the winter,
    when it's damp, but it's very hard during the summer months
    when it doesn't rain. Suspension matters more then.

    So you should consider suspension only with a comfy seat.
    The seat is going to matter more no matter what your type of
    riding. But you can still improve the ride with a little
    suspension. The more aggressive your riding is, the less
    you'll get out of it. For example if you ride very
    challenging terrain with lots of drops and hopping, you
    don't use the suspension. But if you do lots of seated
    cruising, that's when you use it.

    The Cane Creek Thudbuster is an excellent design, and does
    not seem to be susceptible to the twisting forces of
    unicycling. It does add extra weight to the cycle, and you
    have to make sure you have enough clearance for it to fit.

    The last thing to consider is how cool it will make your
    unicycle look. Mountain bikers ask us about suspension all
    the time. My main suspension is my 3" tire, but the post
    helps too. Do I really need it? Mostly no, except for on
    slickrock. But I leave it on there because it adds "zoot" to
    my unicycle. (Plus I don't have an alternative one I like at
    the moment, but that's another story)

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  7. JC and the rest, I'm mainly a road rider. I am not planning
    to get a suspension post any time soon, but I have a few
    questions none the less. Does the variable distance between
    the seat and cranks affect your riding at all? I would think
    that it wouldn't after a bit of practice.

    If it came down to getting a suspension post or brake set,
    what should I get? I have a 26er with 127's. A lot of the
    riding I do is on hills, all of it on road. The roads here
    aren't all that well taken care of so there are a lot of
    ruts. A lot of the time I don't even see the imperfections
    in the road.

    Thanks Daniel

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  8. Thanks for all the info. You guys have been a big help.😉

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  9. daino149 said:

    *Does the variable distance between the seat and cranks
    affect your riding at all? *


    It never affected me. You don't want your suspension too
    squishy, because it'll just bottom out when you really need
    it. The idea is that it only really moves when you hit bumps
    & things. The two posts I have compress slightly when you
    sit on them, but don't go up more than 1/4" or less when you
    stand up. This is not noticeable to me.

    If you're unsure of what to start with, try the Pyramid.
    You'll need a rail adapter on your seat, but I think this
    may be true for any of these posts. The Pyramid or Rock Shox
    will only work if you have enough room for all that post.
    These posts cannot be shortened wihtout compromising their
    usefulness. When measuring the 350mm, remember to include
    the height of the rail adapter.

    If you don't have room for one of those, you can go all the
    way and try the Thudbuster. I think it would be excellent
    for road riding, and you can control the amount of preload
    (squishiness) with some kind of included adjustment. The
    fact that the seat moves rearward as it goes down is not a
    big deal, this just means the frame will move fractionally
    forward as you go downward. Even if your seat handle is
    attached to your frame instead of the seat, it should not be
    a big deal.

    Just make sure you have enough room to fit the mechanism
    above your seat clamp. Be advised you may not have any extra
    exposed seatpost to attach things to.

    Daino, where do you live? We're coming to Maui in Feb.

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  10. johnfoss said:

    *Daino, my wife and I are coming to Maui in Feb. Do you
    ever get over there? Know of any good trails? There's a
    chance I might bring a unicycle if there are. *

    Great to hear you are coming! I wish I could tell you if
    there are any good riding spots, but I don't honestly know.
    My guess would be yes because there are some nice hiking
    trails. If you have brake on you Coker, you might try the
    Haleakala decent, but I doubt you would bring a Coker with
    you. I don't know of any specific trails or areas to ride,
    but there are plenty of hiking and MTB books around. You
    might want to pick one up on Amazon before coming down.

    Are you going to straight to Maui, or are you going to be
    spending time on Oahu? If you do come to Oahu, I'd like
    to meet up.

    Daniel

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  11. We're getting off the subject but...

    For those not familiar, the Mt. Haleakala descent on Maui
    (bikemaui.combikemaui.com) is an awesome way to coast 36
    miles, almost nonstop. A must-do for any cyclist going to
    Maui. We did it last time we were there, in 1999.

    I can't imagine it being that fun on a unicycle though,
    especially without brakes! But I'm more a MUni than a road
    guy. 36 miles with a 10,000' descent is perfect for
    something that coasts. For that I'll use a bike, thanks very
    much! I highly recommend this ride to anyone thinking of
    going to Maui.

    I'll have to look up trails there if I decide to lug
    along a MUni...

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