Don't Follow The Advice of Joggers Who Post Here

macelroy said:

I hate seeing people get poor information

Then why do you keep supplying it?

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The only advice I've ever taken from joggers, is when Doug
told me to go "F" myself. As it turns out, I'm a veeeerrry
giving lover.

You forgot to say that it's because they're all overweight.

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Don't follow the advice of joggers. There are a lot of self-
proclaimed running gurus in this group. They love to
advise you about running from their slow jogging
experiences and a few running magazines they might have
read. They'll speak to you about the difficulty of running
a 5:30 second mile and all kinds of unbelievably slow
times that a lot of 10 year old kids could run just from
the conditioning of playing soccer or other sports.
They'll tell you that you can't run more than 30 or 40
miles per week when young 10 year old kids go to sport
camps all over America and play soccer or other sports ALL
DAY LONG and cover as much as 15 miles. The only kind of
runners these people can be are extremely inferior
physical specimens. Even people who play weekend
basketball and sprint up and down a court cover more
distance than they do. Yet they will tell you point blank
that it can't be done. They will call you a troll and say
your malicious when you tell them it can be done and that
it's done all over America ever day. It's only that they
can't do it because of their physical inferiority and so
they think that no one else can do it either. I hate
seeing people get poor information and they sure get it
from these losers.

macelroy said:

Don't follow the advice of joggers. There are a lot of self-
proclaimed running gurus in this group.

So you're bad at math, too. I only count one.

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They love to advise you about running from their slow
jogging experiences and a few running magazines they might
have read.

Because, of course, experiences must be invalid, and
magazine articles are all false. So, add logic to the things
you're bad at.

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They'll speak to you about the difficulty of running a
5:30 second mile and all kinds of unbelievably slow times
that a lot of 10 year old kids could run just from the
conditioning of playing soccer or other sports.

Define "a lot": a majority, a portion of the population?
Well, you didn't say "any 10 year old" or "all 10 year olds"
and so shot your argument in the foot, because if not all 10
year olds can do it, then why should all adults be able to
run 5:30 pace? The fact that not all children can do it
demonstrates a limiting factor, e.g., genetics, that may in
fact make it difficult for many--if not altogether impossible--
to perform at that level.

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They'll tell you that you can't run more than 30 or 40
miles per week when young 10 year old kids go to sport
camps all over America and play soccer or other sports ALL
DAY LONG and cover as much as 15 miles.

Ah, there's your math difficulty again. Since when does 15 =
30 or 40? And don't tell me that it's just because they're
kids and can't do that much, because above, you told us 10
year olds could perform at adult level, so that escape hatch
ain't available to ya.

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The only kind of runners these people can be are extremely
inferior physical specimens. Even people who play weekend
basketball and sprint up and down a court cover more
distance than they do.

Really? You can run 30-40 miles per week by playing
basketball on the weekends? You can prove this? Oh... that's
right, you don't do math. Sorry.

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Yet they will tell you point blank that it can't be done.
They will call you a troll and say your malicious when you
tell them it can be done and that it's done all over
America ever day. It's only that they can't do it because
of their physical inferiority and so they think that no
one else can do it either. I hate seeing people get poor
information and they sure get it from these losers.

And to re-balance the running world you dispense information
like this:

"The trouble with all you people is that eating is too
important to you all to give up even for running . . . STOP
EATING, STOP EATING, STOP EATING."

"Your objective should be to reduce body fat to almost
nothing."

"I am going through my liposuction training and diet phaze
right now."

I feel so inferior. Anyone who can give up food,
reduce themselves to 2% body fat and undergoes
liposuction to improve their running must be a truly
superior physical specimen.

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"Your objective should be to reduce body fat to almost
nothing."

"I am going through my liposuction training and diet phaze
right now."

I feel so inferior.

You should! I've shaved every inch of my body and run naked
to reduce wind resistance. On my speedwork days I only eat
cabbage. On my long days I only eat granola. I only carry
water on runs over 24 hours. I run eight days a week, that
last day is for recovery at a slow 5:30 pace.

Surf

Wussy.

Surf McBrowse wrote: that last day is for recovery at a slow
5:30 pace.

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Surf

HA! That's only because nobody else would do it.

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The only advice I've ever taken from joggers, is when Doug
told me to go "F" myself.

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Don't follow the advice of joggers. There are a lot of self-
proclaimed running gurus in this group. They love to
advise you about running from their slow jogging
experiences and a few running magazines they might have
read. They'll speak to you about the difficulty of running
a 5:30 second mile and all kinds of unbelievably slow
times that a lot of 10 year old kids could run just from
the conditioning of playing soccer or other sports.
They'll tell you that you can't run more than 30 or 40
miles per week when young 10 year old kids go to sport
camps all over America and play soccer or other sports ALL
DAY LONG and cover as much as 15 miles. The only kind of
runners these people can be are extremely inferior
physical specimens. Even people who play weekend
basketball and sprint up and down a court cover more
distance than they do. Yet they will tell you point blank
that it can't be done. They will call you a troll and say
your malicious when you tell them it can be done and that
it's done all over America ever day. It's only that they
can't do it because of their physical inferiority and so
they think that no one else can do it either. I hate
seeing people get poor information and they sure get it
from these losers.

I have never proclaimed to be a "guru". I know some gurus
and I am not one.

What I share I have gleaned from reading and talking with a
lot of people's ideas like:

David Martin Pete Pfitzinger Joe Vigil Jack Daniels Tim
Noakes (although I find him harder to take in recent years)
Arthur Lydiard Alberto Salazar Randy Wilber (he is a
physiologist with the USOC and former coach) Jeff Galloway
Frank Shorter

Add in the handful of world class athletes that I have
had the privilege to work with, and I think I have a
decent blend of theoretical and practical (they often do
not overlap)

I offer what I offer out of some bizarre need to share
information. If people do not want to follow it, that is
their choice but I do not belittle people (okay I have done
that a few times in moments of poor taste).

I will stick with the information I provide based on the
writings of the men above and guidelines from organizations
like NSCA and ACSM (the latter of which I am a member). How
about joining and coming to a national meeting and sharing
your ideas on training? I am sure that several of the men in
the list above would like to be educated.

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I offer what I offer out of some bizarre need to share
information. If people do not want to follow it, that is
their choice but I do not

belittle

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people (okay I have done that a few times in moments of
poor taste).

I will stick with the information I provide based on the
writings of the

men

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above and guidelines from organizations like NSCA and ACSM
(the latter of which I am a member). >

And I thank you for sharing your knowledge to the beginners
like me. As for everyone that share their info. Also a
thank you.

macelroy said:

Don't follow the advice of joggers. There are a lot of self-
proclaimed running gurus in this group. They love to
advise you about running from their slow jogging
experiences and a few running magazines they might have
read. They'll speak to you about the difficulty of running
a 5:30 second mile and all kinds of unbelievably slow
times that a lot of 10 year old kids could run just from
the conditioning of playing soccer or other sports.
They'll tell you that you can't run more than 30 or 40
miles per week when young 10 year old kids go to sport
camps all over America and play soccer or other sports ALL
DAY LONG and cover as much as 15 miles. The only kind of
runners these people can be are extremely inferior
physical specimens. Even people who play weekend
basketball and sprint up and down a court cover more
distance than they do. Yet they will tell you point blank
that it can't be done. They will call you a troll and say
your malicious when you tell them it can be done and that
it's done all over America ever day. It's only that they
can't do it because of their physical inferiority and so
they think that no one else can do it either. I hate
seeing people get poor information and they sure get it
from these losers.

You must be really bored. Quite an elaborate troll, don't
you think? You could have spent a lot less energy, and
gotten a much better response with

stupid joggers".

Of course, if you actually believe that nonsense you are
spouting, then you're quite a bit dumber than you look or
sound in your writing. I hope you enjoy your future years,
when your legs, hips, and back are going to be pounded into
nothing but arthritis and pain. Good luck, 'cause you're
going to need it. You'll be rolling around the old folks
home in your wheelchair, stoned on painkillers and anti-
inflammatories, having spent your life savings on joint-
replacement surgery, and wondering why you were stupid
enough to abuse your body when you were younger by running
way too many miles, and at too fast a pace. I relish the
day when I'll be playing golf and tennis with my good knees
and back, whilst you complain about being yet again
depressed and in pain and stuck in front of the tv or in
the bingo hall.

I sincerely hope you're somebody I know, as I know that I'll
gleefully spend all my golden years reminding you and your
ilk EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN DAY what

You've already put a smile on my face for today.

People like you end up getting what they deserve,
thank goodness.

macelroy said:

Don't follow the advice of joggers. There are a lot of self-
proclaimed running gurus in this group. They love to
advise you about running from their slow jogging
experiences and a few running magazines they might have
read. They'll speak to you about the difficulty of running
a 5:30 second mile and all kinds of unbelievably slow
times that a lot of 10 year old kids could run just from
the conditioning of playing soccer or other sports.
They'll tell you that you can't run more than 30 or 40
miles per week when young 10 year old kids go to sport
camps all over America and play soccer or other sports ALL
DAY LONG and cover as much as 15 miles. The only kind of
runners these people can be are extremely inferior
physical specimens. Even people who play weekend
basketball and sprint up and down a court cover more
distance than they do. Yet they will tell you point blank
that it can't be done. They will call you a troll and say
your malicious when you tell them it can be done and that
it's done all over America ever day. It's only that they
can't do it because of their physical inferiority and so
they think that no one else can do it either. I hate
seeing people get poor information and they sure get it
from these losers.

Ah, macelroy. Good to have you back old chap. So, have you
entered a race yet? I don't believe we ever managed to find
a verified performance by you the last time you were
trolling round here. So, want to post a link to a race
you've actually entered?

C'mon, we've only been waiting about 3 years now to actually
verify one of your superior performances.

BarryNL said:

Ah, macelroy. Good to have you back old chap. So, have you
entered a race yet? I don't believe we ever managed to
find a verified performance by you the last time you were
trolling round here. So, want to post a link to a race
you've actually entered?

C'mon, we've only been waiting about 3 years now to
actually verify one of your superior performances.

Awe shucks, he's just trying to remain humble and not
embarrass us portly joggers. He is "da man" and we better
get used to it.

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