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The tom/doe vs. markdtoad debate.

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  1. I've told Tom/doe that iron is a secondary issue, and since
    then he seems to be posting more about oxidative stress.
    Oxidative stress that can be prevented involves too much
    unsaturated fatty acids and oxidized cholesterol in the
    diet, along with too little antioxidants, but iron overload
    is a problem too. There was a recent study, I think Finnish
    (you can find it on www.pubmed.com), which concluded that
    oxidized cholesterol was only a problem in people who were
    overloaded with iron. However, if you ate a lot of
    antioxidants and saturated fatty acids (such as coconut oil)
    and avoided unsaturated fatty acids (since they are in most
    foods that have some fat content, one might also use the
    overload term and say unsaturated fatty acid overload) I
    don't think the iron would be nearly as much of a problem,
    assuming that you've got the other essential minerals
    (copper, selenium, magnesium, in particular). From what I
    understand, the Finnish diet is not low in unsaturated fatty
    acids, so that's probaby why the iron overload had such an
    effect on the people in the study.

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    I've told Tom/doe that iron is a secondary issue, and
    since then he seems


    to

    Quoted message said:

    be posting more about oxidative stress. Oxidative stress
    that can be prevented involves too much unsaturated fatty
    acids and oxidized


    cholesterol

    Quoted message said:

    in the diet, along with too little antioxidants, but iron
    overload is a problem too. There was a recent study, I
    think Finnish (you can find it


    on

    Quoted message said:

    www.pubmed.com), which concluded that oxidized cholesterol
    was only a problem in people who were overloaded with
    iron. However, if you ate a


    lot

    Quoted message said:

    of antioxidants and saturated fatty acids (such as coconut
    oil) and


    avoided

    Quoted message said:

    unsaturated fatty acids (since they are in most foods that
    have some fat content, one might also use the overload
    term and say unsaturated fatty


    acid

    Quoted message said:

    overload) I don't think the iron would be nearly as much
    of a problem, assuming that you've got the other essential
    minerals (copper, selenium, magnesium, in particular).
    From what I understand, the Finnish diet is


    not

    Quoted message said:

    low in unsaturated fatty acids, so that's probaby why the
    iron overload


    had

    Quoted message said:

    such an effect on the people in the study.

    I think you may be missing one vital point here - the term
    "debate" doesn't come into it.

    Read all of what each of the two have posted, and then ask
    yourself which of the two is demonstrably insane ;o)

    MB

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