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  1. Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from home)
    to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime leaves
    and lemongrass and had reasonable success with first
    attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep the herbs
    . It's too late for the Basil, that is already black, mint
    is going same way and lime leaves are starting to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in garden
    but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

  2. Quoted message said:

    Steve YATES asks:

    But my Q is, how best to keep

    Quoted message said:

    the herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are
    starting to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in garden
    but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    Fresh herbs are perishable, not meant to be stored more than
    a few days... simplest approach is to only buy what you
    intend to use within that few days window. Perhaps you can
    cook more.

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  3. Steve YATES said:

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    My favorite is to wash, drain, wrap in paper towel to keep a
    few days. Otherwise freeze coarsely chopped in water in
    icecube trays, then into plastic freezer containers for
    longer storage. If presentation isn't an issue, the taste is
    very nice and fresh. I made pesto today from last fall's
    basil and it tastes great. I also freeze fronds of herbs for
    pickle making on a cooking sheet and then place in plastic
    bags in freezer. I've given up trying to preserve green
    onions tho. Now I just eat a few and plant a few. I can buy
    radishes by the each, why not green onions? Edrena

  4. Steve YATES said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from
    home) to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime
    leaves and lemongrass and had reasonable success with
    first attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep
    the herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are
    starting to curl.

    The lemongrass can be bought peeled, chopped and frozen.
    It's much more consistent than the fresh stalks you'd buy in
    the store. 12oz for $2 is a great deal. You can tie it in
    cheesecloth or a use a tea-ball if you don't want it
    floating around in a soup.

    Basil and mint I'd chop off the last 1/4" of the stem end
    and keep in a shallow glass of water in the fridge.
    Wrapped in damp papertowles in a plastic bag they'll last
    a while as well.

    Lime leaves can be kept frozen until ready to use. Don't
    keep thawing and refreezing or they'll turn to mush.

    -sw

  5. Steve YATES <[email hidden]> deliciously posted in
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    Quoted message said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from home)
    to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime leaves
    and lemongrass and had reasonable success with first
    attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep the
    herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are starting
    to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

    You *really* don't want to plant mint in your garden. It is
    very invasive.

    Michael
    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

  6. Luckily I have 3000 m2 of garden for it to try and take over
    ! However so far the nettles keep it down.

    Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    last weekend, from what I read on various websites, that
    is also something that spreads. However same sites also
    said that cats like the small/taste so have put the
    plants in separate beds hoping that the cats will miss
    at least one !

    S

    Dog3 said:

    Steve YATES <[email hidden]> deliciously posted in -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from home)
    to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime leaves
    and lemongrass and had reasonable success with first
    attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep the
    herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are starting
    to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

    You *really* don't want to plant mint in your garden. It
    is very invasive.

    Michael

  7. Steve YATES <[email hidden]> deliciously posted in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Luckily I have 3000 m2 of garden for it to try and take
    over ! However so far the nettles keep it down.

    Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    last weekend, from what I read on various websites, that
    is also something that spreads. However same sites also
    said that cats like the small/taste so have put the
    plants in separate beds hoping that the cats will miss
    at least one !

    S

    I don't have any experience with lemon grass in the
    garden. I just buy it as needed. Lemon balm smells nice
    but it is also invasive. I don't have enough room. I grow
    mint in a pot and it still sneaks into the flower beds. My
    cat likes any type of grassy plant, including the palms
    indoors. She'll pass up the catnip and graze on a palm
    tree. Go figure.

    Michael
    --
    Deathbed statement...

    "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
    December 12, 1968

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Steve YATES said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from home)
    to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime leaves
    and lemongrass and had reasonable success with first
    attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep the
    herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are starting
    to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

    Freeze them inside Ice Cubes, then bag them.

    Either that or dry them, but that's just not the same....

    K.

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  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Joneses said:
    Steve YATES said:

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives
    as basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    My favorite is to wash, drain, wrap in paper towel to keep
    a few days. Otherwise freeze coarsely chopped in water in
    icecube trays, then into plastic freezer containers for
    longer storage. If presentation isn't an issue, the taste
    is very nice and fresh. I made pesto today from last
    fall's basil and it tastes great. I also freeze fronds of
    herbs for pickle making on a cooking sheet and then place
    in plastic bags in freezer. I've given up trying to
    preserve green onions tho. Now I just eat a few and plant
    a few. I can buy radishes by the each, why not green
    onions? Edrena

    Green onions can just be served as a veggie by
    themselves. ;-)

    While I usually mince them as a flavoring, you can also just
    cut them in about 4" long sections and steam them, then
    serve with lemon butter.

    They are delicious that way! I never waste those.

    Do they do well planted? I'd like to get some going as my
    "wild" onions do so well here. I have a couple of nice
    patches of Texas wild onions. Those are delicious if
    harvested before they bloom.

    K.

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  10. Steve YATES said:

    Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    last weekend, from what I read on various websites, that
    is also something that spreads. However same sites also
    said that cats like the small/taste so have put the
    plants in separate beds hoping that the cats will miss
    at least one !

    I saw lemongrass today, it reminded me uncomfortably of
    bamboo. To say it's invasive might be a massive
    understatement. Stuff like that you plant in a pot, as in
    bury the pot so the roots don't go sqirreling around and
    taking over your property. Same with mint.

    nancy

  11. "Steve YATES" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from home)
    to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint, lime leaves
    and lemongrass and had reasonable success with first
    attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to keep the
    herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is already
    black, mint is going same way and lime leaves are starting
    to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives as
    basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

    When purchasing hergs like basil, see if you can buy them
    with the roots still on them. Then place it into a flower
    vase with a bit of water and put on the counter. It should
    keep for a couple of days, but will eventually turn black.
    You may wish to start cuttings indoors now and transplant to
    the garden when the weather is warmer.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dog3 dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

    Steve YATES <[email hidden]> deliciously posted in -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de:

    Quoted message said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from
    home) to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint,
    lime leaves and lemongrass and had reasonable success
    with first attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to
    keep the herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is
    already black, mint is going same way and lime leaves
    are starting to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives
    as basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    S

    You *really* don't want to plant mint in your garden. It
    is very invasive.

    Michael

    Or you can plant it in a place where you don't care if it
    takes over. ;-) I used to have a mint patch in the rose
    garden. It did well there, until I got my BC. She trampled
    it all to death! <sigh> I'm planning on just planting more
    in a very large pot now..... It does fine as a container
    plant. Partial shade to full sun, lots of water.

    K.

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    Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

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    they are all owned by cats! -- Asimov

    Quoted message said:

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  13. Nancy Young said:
    Steve YATES said:

    Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    last weekend, from what I read on various websites,
    that is also something that spreads. However same sites
    also said that cats like the small/taste so have put
    the plants in separate beds hoping that the cats will
    miss at least one !

    I saw lemongrass today, it reminded me uncomfortably of
    bamboo. To say it's invasive might be a massive
    understatement. Stuff like that you plant in a pot, as in
    bury the pot so the roots don't go sqirreling around and
    taking over your property. Same with mint.

    nancy

    I grow it in pots, as it will not overwinter where I live,
    but I have never heard it said to be an invasive plant. In
    fact, it is recommended that the clumps be divided every 2-3
    years and that is the main means of propagation. It is not
    easy to grow from seed - believe me, I have tried several
    times with minimal success.

    See Gernot Katzer's pages about lemon grass for more general
    information. Mr. Katzer is worth a bookmark in any cook or
    gardener's browser. His pages are full of information and
    wonderful pictures of herbs and spices.

    He also provides links on the page about lemon grass which
    may also prove interesting. www-www-
    ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/

    boron

  14. Boron Elgar said:
    Nancy Young said:
    Steve YATES said:

    Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    last weekend, from what I read on various websites,
    that is also something that spreads.


    I saw lemongrass today, it reminded me uncomfortably of
    bamboo. To say it's invasive might be a massive
    understatement. Stuff like that you plant in a pot, as in
    bury the pot so the roots don't go sqirreling around and
    taking over your property. Same with mint. nancy

    I grow it in pots, as it will not overwinter where I live,
    but I have never heard it said to be an invasive plant. In
    fact, it is

    See Gernot Katzer's pages about lemon grass for more
    general information. Mr. Katzer is worth a bookmark in any
    cook or gardener's browser. His pages are full of
    information and wonderful pictures of herbs and spices. He
    also provides links on the page about lemon grass which
    may also prove interesting. www-www-
    ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/ boron

    I was given some clumps of "Arizona" or "Navajo" lemongrass.
    It is not at all tender like the nursery plants were and
    thrives in the alkaline soil and blowtorch sun we get. I can
    actually root out any invasive mints from my beds but have
    started mints this year in a very shady tree spot that won't
    grow anything else and also between some paving stones,
    it'll be nice to step on. Edrena

  15. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:51:30 GMT, The Joneses <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Boron Elgar said:
    Nancy Young said:

    Steve YATES wrote:
    > Am worried about the lemongrass plants that I put in
    > last weekend, from what I read on various websites,
    > that is also something that spreads.
    I saw lemongrass today, it reminded me uncomfortably of
    bamboo. To say it's invasive might be a massive
    understatement. Stuff like that you plant in a pot, as
    in bury the pot so the roots don't go sqirreling around
    and taking over your property. Same with mint. nancy

    I grow it in pots, as it will not overwinter where I
    live, but I have never heard it said to be an invasive
    plant. In fact, it is

    See Gernot Katzer's pages about lemon grass for more
    general information. Mr. Katzer is worth a bookmark in
    any cook or gardener's browser. His pages are full of
    information and wonderful pictures of herbs and spices.
    He also provides links on the page about lemon grass
    which may also prove interesting. www-www-
    ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/ boron

    I was given some clumps of "Arizona" or "Navajo"
    lemongrass. It is not at all tender like the nursery plants
    were and thrives in the alkaline soil and blowtorch sun we
    get. I can actually root out any invasive mints from my
    beds but have started mints this year in a very shady tree
    spot that won't grow anything else and also between some
    paving stones, it'll be nice to step on. Edrena

    Do you have any other details about it? I cannot find any
    botanical listings for "Arizona" or "Navajo" lemon grass
    on the net.

    Mints are a wholly different different plant family -
    Lamiaceae - while lemon grass is Poaceae.

    boron

  16. "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Steve YATES" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    Am just getting into Thai cooking and so went off to an
    Asian supermarket that is 15kms from office (60 from
    home) to get ingredients. Cam back with basil, mint,
    lime leaves and lemongrass and had reasonable success
    with first attempts at cooking. But my Q is, how best to
    keep the herbs . It's too late for the Basil, that is
    already black, mint is going same way and lime leaves
    are starting to curl.

    It won't be a problem once summer (eventually) arrives
    as basil, mint and hopefully lemongrass all flourish in
    garden but how can you keep shop bought herbs ?

    Lemongrass? I would love to plant and have never seen it
    available in nurseries - I don't mind the invasive bit - and
    have tons of mint and don't mind at all. Would it grow in
    Maine - or southwest N.B. Canada.

    Thanks,
    E.

  17. Boron Elgar said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was given some clumps of "Arizona" or "Navajo"
    lemongrass. It is not at all tender like the nursery
    plants were and thrives in the alkaline soil and
    blowtorch sun we get. I can actually root out any
    invasive mints from my beds but have started mints this
    year in a very shady tree spot that won't grow anything
    else and also between some paving stones, it'll be nice
    to step on. Edrena

    Do you have any other details about it? I cannot find any
    botanical listings for "Arizona" or "Navajo" lemon grass
    on the net.

    Mints are a wholly different different plant family -
    Lamiaceae - while lemon grass is Poaceae.

    boron

    Will try to find out from the Native American lady who
    gave me the lemongrass.

    As to the species thing, I guess I should doublespace my
    paragraphs or something. I didn't figger anybody could mix
    those two things up. Edrena

  18. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:56:37 GMT, The Joneses <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Boron Elgar said:
    Quoted message said:

    I was given some clumps of "Arizona" or "Navajo"
    lemongrass. It is not at all tender like the nursery
    plants were and thrives in the alkaline soil and
    blowtorch sun we get. I can actually root out any
    invasive mints from my beds but have started mints this
    year in a very shady tree spot that won't grow anything
    else and also between some paving stones, it'll be nice
    to step on. Edrena

    Do you have any other details about it? I cannot find any
    botanical listings for "Arizona" or "Navajo" lemon grass
    on the net.

    Mints are a wholly different different plant family -
    Lamiaceae - while lemon grass is Poaceae.

    boron

    Will try to find out from the Native American lady who
    gave me the lemongrass.

    As to the species thing, I guess I should doublespace my
    paragraphs or something. I didn't figger anybody could
    mix those two things up. Edrena

    Ahhhh...it all makes more sense now. Thanks.

    Boron

  19. On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:51:30 GMT, The Joneses <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    . I can actually root out any invasive mints from my beds
    but have started mints this year in a very shady tree
    spot that won't grow anything else and also between some
    paving stones, it'll be nice to step on. Edrena


    brute.

    your pal, blake

  20. blake murphy said:
    The Joneses said:

    . I can actually root out any invasive mints from my beds
    but have started mints this year in a very shady tree
    spot that won't grow anything else and also between
    some paving stones, it'll be nice to step on. Edrena


    brute.

    Not. Clumsy, yes. I've heard of whole lawns of chamomile
    tho. I can't imagine that one. Your pal-ette, Edrena

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