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  1. Having just read the long thread about how to prepare
    cabbage leaves for stuffing, I'm amazed that people go to so
    much work. So much time! Freezing, Bah! All you need to do
    is soften them enough so that you can wrap them around the
    filling without breaking the leaf.

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches deep.
    While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the leaves
    off the cabbage head. Drop them in the boiling water and
    Cover With a Lid, and steam them for a short time.--it only
    takes 40 seconds or so. When they are bendable, simply lift
    them out with tongs, and repeat with the rest of the leaves.

  2. (Nancree) said:

    Having just read the long thread about how to prepare
    cabbage leaves for stuffing, I'm amazed that people go to
    so much work. So much time! Freezing, Bah! All you need to
    do is soften them enough so that you can wrap them around
    the filling without breaking the leaf.

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches deep.
    While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the leaves
    off the cabbage head. Drop them in the boiling water and
    Cover With a Lid, and steam them for a short time.--it
    only takes 40 seconds or so. When they are bendable,
    simply lift them out with tongs, and repeat with the rest
    of the leaves.

    Often times you cant get the leaves off without ripping
    them. By dunking the whole head in water, you're assured
    that you can separate the leaves easily, as well as making
    them pliable for wrapping.

    Some heads are more/less "tangled" than others.

    -sw

  3. Steve Wertz said:


    On 25 Mar 2004 05:03:16 GMT, [email hidden]
    (Nancree) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches
    deep. While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the
    leaves off the cabbage head.

    Quoted message said:

    Often times you cant get the leaves off without ripping
    them. By dunking the whole head in water, you're assured
    that you can separate the leaves easily, as well as making
    them pliable for wrapping.

    Some heads are more/less "tangled" than others.

    Exactly, the whole cabbage leaves thing was about how to get
    the leaves off the cabbage, not how to soften them. That's
    the hard part, they rip as you try to remove them.

    nancy

  4. "Nancree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Having just read the long thread about how to prepare
    cabbage leaves for stuffing, I'm amazed that people go to
    so much work. So much time!


    Freezing,

    Quoted message said:

    Bah! All you need to do is soften them enough so that you
    can wrap them


    around

    Quoted message said:

    the filling without breaking the leaf.

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches deep.
    While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the leaves
    off the cabbage head. Drop


    them in

    Quoted message said:

    the boiling water and Cover With a Lid, and steam them
    for a short


    time.--it

    Quoted message said:

    only takes 40 seconds or so. When they are bendable,
    simply lift them out


    with

    Quoted message said:

    tongs, and repeat with the rest of the leaves.

    Now this is funny! You complain that freezing is "so much
    work" and then suggest a procedure that is much *more* work!

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  5. Quoted message said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    "Nancree" says

    I'm amazed that people go to so much work. So much time!
    Freezing, Bah! All you need to do is soften them enough
    so that you can wrap them


    around

    Quoted message said:

    the filling without breaking the leaf.

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches
    deep. While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the
    leaves off the cabbage head. Drop


    them in

    Quoted message said:

    the boiling water and Cover With a Lid, and steam them
    for a short time.--it only takes 40 seconds or so. When
    they are bendable, simply lift them out with tongs, and
    repeat with the rest


    of the leaves.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Now this is funny! You complain that freezing is "so
    much work" and then suggest a procedure that is much
    *more* work!

    It should be obvious why, he's never done it.

    I've used all three methods, boiling, nuking, and freezing.
    Boiling and nuking are both very labor intensive, require
    lots of handling and reheating, and give poor results with
    consistancy, some leaves end up too crisp and need to be
    reprocessed but worse are the leaves that end up over
    prorocessed and are way to soft. Freezing entails
    practically no labor whatsoever and all the leaves end up
    perfectly softened to the proper consistancy and all of the
    same consistancy throuhgout the entire leaf and every leaf,
    regardless if it's a tough outer leaf or a tender inner
    leaf... no guesswork. Anyone who has actually made stuffed
    cabbage by the various methods would not disparage the
    freezing method, obviously those lying instigating *trolls*
    have never.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  6. Nancy Young said:


    Exactly, the whole cabbage leaves thing was about how to
    get the leaves off the cabbage, not how to soften them.
    That's the hard part, they rip as you try to remove them.

    This recipe is easy, it is a one pot dish and it freezes
    well. Tastes very good. No cabbage leaves to wrangle.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Unstuffed Cabbage Casserole

    Recipe By : Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Beef And Veal Casseroles

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method --------
    ------------ -------------------------------- 1 pound
    extra lean ground beef 1 medium onion -- peeled and
    coarsely chopped
    1/2 medium cabbage head- cored, quartered, and cut
    into 1" strips
    2/4 cup water 28 ounces crushed tomatoes or tomato puree 1
    tablespoon brown sugar 1 tablespoon vinegar
    3/2 teaspoon salt freshly ground pepper, to taste 1 1/2
    teaspoons caraway seeds -- optional 1 garlic clove --
    finely minced 2 cups cooked rice

    In a 6 quart Dutch oven, brown the ground beef, draining off
    the fat. Add the chopped onion and cook until onion wilts
    and softens, 3-5 minutes. Add the chopped cabbage and water
    to the Dutch oven; cook until the cabbage begins to soften
    and wilt, 5-8 minutes more. Add tomatoes, brown sugar,
    vinegar, salt, pepper, caraway seeds, and garlic; stir to
    mix well. Bring to a boil, reduce heat to simmer and cover.
    Simmer until cabbage is tender-crisp, 30 minutes or more.
    Serve over rice.

    S(Newspaper): "Lafayette Journal-Courier"

  7. Get a pot of boiling water use a sharp knife to cut the core
    out of a large head of cabbage. Just the core like you would
    with a tomatoes. Place the head in the boiling water and
    remove the leaves with tongs as they become loose. I always
    take the sharp knife and trim the heavy part of the leaf
    without removing it. This helps when you fold and roll the
    cabbage leaves. I have made upwards of 200 rolls for church
    gatherings and have always found this to be the quickest and
    easiest way. I would expect freezing to change the texture.
    I may be wrong about this. I just use what works for me and
    worked for my Grandparents.

    "Nancree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040325000316.09636.00000044@mb-
    m24.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Having just read the long thread about how to prepare
    cabbage leaves for stuffing, I'm amazed that people go to
    so much work. So much time!


    Freezing,

    Quoted message said:

    Bah! All you need to do is soften them enough so that you
    can wrap them


    around

    Quoted message said:

    the filling without breaking the leaf.

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches deep.
    While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull the leaves
    off the cabbage head. Drop


    them in

    Quoted message said:

    the boiling water and Cover With a Lid, and steam them
    for a short


    time.--it

    Quoted message said:

    only takes 40 seconds or so. When they are bendable,
    simply lift them out


    with

    Quoted message said:

    tongs, and repeat with the rest of the leaves.

  8. Quoted message said:

    "Emil Luca"

    Get a pot of boiling water use a sharp knife to cut the
    core out of a large head of cabbage. I have made upwards of
    200 rolls for church gatherings and have always found this
    to be the quickest and easiest way.

    I would expect freezing to change the texture. I may be
    wrong about this.

    Another low IQ dago [censored] who has admitedly never tried
    something but feels compelled to make a negative comment.

    ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED
    NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be
    devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Nancy Young said:
    Steve Wertz said:


    On 25 Mar 2004 05:03:16 GMT, [email hidden] (Nancree)
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    To do this, simply: Put on a pot of water two inches
    deep. While this is coming to a boil, carefully pull
    the leaves off the cabbage head.

    Quoted message said:

    Often times you cant get the leaves off without ripping
    them. By dunking the whole head in water, you're assured
    that you can separate the leaves easily, as well as
    making them pliable for wrapping.

    Some heads are more/less "tangled" than others.

    Exactly, the whole cabbage leaves thing was about how to
    get the leaves off the cabbage, not how to soften them.
    That's the hard part, they rip as you try to remove them.

    nancy

    That's one of the things I like about Savoy cabbage. :-)
    That and the sweeter flavor......

    They are much easier to take apart, so you can just stack
    the separated leaves into a steamer to soften, or slice 'em
    up in strips for stir fry.

    K.

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  10. (PENMART01) said:

    Anyone who has actually made stuffed cabbage by the various
    methods would not disparage the freezing method, obviously
    those lying instigating *trolls* have never.

    I make stuffed cabbage once ever 6 weeks. The freezing
    method is the *worst* method of the three. You may like it,
    but I will not sacrifice quality for convenience.

    -sw

  11. (PENMART01) said:

    Another low IQ dago [censored] who has admitedly never tried
    something but feels compelled to make a negative comment.

    Several of us commented that we *have* tried the freezing
    method and we all think it's inferior (or unacceptable).,

    Stop being so pig-headed, 'cause you're wrong again.

    -sw

  12. Steve Wertz said:

    Several of us commented that we *have* tried the freezing
    method and we all think it's inferior (or unacceptable).,

    I have high standards for cooking. I've tried the freezer
    method and was very pleased with the results. I can only
    assume you're doing something different to get inferior
    results. Goomba

  13. Nancy Young said:
    Greykits said:


    Quoted message said:

    Nancy Young wrote:
    >
    > Exactly, the whole cabbage leaves thing was about how
    > to get the leaves off the cabbage, not how to soften
    > them. That's the hard part, they rip as you try to
    > remove them.

    This recipe is easy, it is a one pot dish and it freezes
    well. Tastes very good. No cabbage leaves to wrangle.

    Thank you. I might try this recipe tomorrow.

    I think it looks great, too. Just wanted to point out that
    Becca posted it. Thank you, Becca.

    nancy

    I made something similar once when I had a particularly
    stubborn (tightly wrapped) cabbage whose leaves didn't want
    to come off no matter what I did. It was like it was
    screaming "no! you will NOT make cabbage rolls out of me!"
    Okay, ya fokker, I'll just rip your leaves off! Layered
    them into a casserole dish with all the other ingredients
    for stuffed cabbage rolls and beat the damned cabbage at
    its own game 🙂

    Jill

  14. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I made something similar once when I had a particularly
    stubborn (tightly wrapped) cabbage whose leaves didn't
    want to come off no matter what I did. It was like it was
    screaming "no! you will NOT make cabbage rolls out of me!"
    Okay, ya fokker, I'll just rip your leaves off! Layered
    them into a casserole dish with all the other ingredients
    for stuffed cabbage rolls and beat the damned cabbage at
    its own game 🙂

    Jill

    I've always tried to remove intact leaves for Middle Eastern
    cabbage rolls, then soften them just a bit in boiling water
    so they would roll without breaking. The other day I caught
    an episode of Martha Stewart (Food Network - Viacom pulled
    MSL here) where her mother was making Polish cabbage rolls.
    Mrs. Kostyra dropped the entire head of cabbage into boiling
    water for a minute or two, peeled off as many leaves as she
    could easily, then dropped the rest of the head back in,
    continuing until the leaf size was too small to work with. I
    tried it last weekend. Doh! It worked like a charm.
    - Chris
    ---
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