American tastes, Irish food

Darkginger said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country, Alaska
to New York, California to Connecticut. Does anyone have
any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic' to them? I'm
thinking of breakfasts that include black and white
puddings, bacon rashers which are more like Canadian bacon
than the stuff you get in the US, lunches like Irish Stew,
freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled) with garlic &
breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local ingredients - I
dunno, I just want to give them a taste of Irish food which
is *different* from what they can get at home - lamb,
maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage, that sort of thing.

It all sounds wonderful to this American. Going for the
mussels and other seafood will surely please most of them.
Although they are not unheard of, lamb and grass-fed beef
are not very common over here, and both are delicious.

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Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them? What about fish 'n
chip eateries? I'd like my guests (which I think of them
as, although they won't all (16) be staying with me, I
don't have a mansion!) to have fun exploring food that
they're not used to. Any ideas from people who have
experience of both countries (Charlie?) would be
appreciated.

Good fish and chips are not common in my part of America (NE
Texas), but Indian fare (even vegan Indian) is easy to find
in cities like Dallas.

modom

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I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled)
with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local
ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give them a taste
of Irish food which is *different* from what they can get
at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage,
that sort of thing.

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Jo

Jo, the most memorable of my meals in Ireland were the
unbelievable breakfasts. Do treat them to one, right down to
the mushrooms and tomatoes. Heaven!

Other foods I found absolutely delightful were Moy salmon,
Dublin prawns and, of course, your brown bread and the
butteriest butter anywhere. And then, of course, your
chocolates ...

I envy your guests!

Felice

Speaking for myself, as an American...

Darkginger said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country, Alaska
to New York, California to Connecticut. Does anyone have
any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic' to them? I'm
thinking of breakfasts that include black and white
puddings, bacon rashers which are more like Canadian bacon
than the stuff you get in the US, lunches like Irish Stew,
freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled) with garlic &
breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local ingredients - I
dunno, I just want to give them a taste of Irish food which
is *different* from what they can get at home - lamb,
maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage, that sort of thing.

Mmmmmm...that all sounds like what I'd like to eat while
in Ireland.

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Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them? What about fish 'n
chip eateries? I'd like my guests (which I think of them
as, although they won't all (16) be staying with me, I
don't have a mansion!) to have fun exploring food that
they're not used to.

Indian, Thai, sushi, and other Asian cuisine is easy to find
where I live in the U.S. Ditto for Italian, Latin American,
and Middle Eastern. What I'd like to sample while across the
pond are foods commonly eaten in Ireland and the UK. Fish
and chips, Irish stew, etc. can be found in many Irish pubs
in the U.S., but I would think that the food in Ireland is
much better.

Mary in Houston

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Quoted message said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled)
with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local
ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give them a taste
of Irish food which is *different* from what they can get
at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage,
that sort of thing.

Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them? What about fish 'n
chip eateries? I'd like my guests (which I think of them
as, although they won't all (16) be staying with me, I
don't have a mansion!) to have fun exploring food that
they're not used to. Any ideas from people who have
experience of both countries (Charlie?) would be
appreciated.

Got room for one more? The things you mention in the first
para sound great to me! Good fish and chip places are very
rare in the US. Be prepared for people putting ketchup on
their chips. Indian -as in the country of India -
restaurants are fairly common but East Indian -the islands
- are not.

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Quoted message said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled)
with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local
ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give them a taste
of Irish food which is *different* from what they can get
at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage,
that sort of thing.

Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them? What about fish 'n
chip eateries? I'd like my guests (which I think of them
as, although they won't all (16) be staying with me, I
don't have a mansion!) to have fun exploring food that
they're not used to. Any ideas from people who have
experience of both countries (Charlie?) would be
appreciated.

Maybe I'm asking a bit in advance, but I'm known for being
slow to get organised, so I thought I'd start early! My
own experience of US food is very limited - TexMex and
CaliMex is about it! (The rest of the time, I cooked in
the apartment).

They'll mostly (as in some will stay longer, others for
shorter times) be here for about a week, and I really want
them to have a good and memorable time - so help please!

Jo

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What I'd like to sample while across the pond are foods
commonly eaten in Ireland and the UK. Fish and chips, Irish
stew, etc. can be found in many Irish pubs in the U.S., but
I would think that the food in Ireland is much better.

Mary in Houston

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I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country, Alaska
to New York, California to Connecticut. Does anyone have
any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic' to them? I'm
thinking of breakfasts that include black and white
puddings, bacon rashers which are more like Canadian bacon
than the stuff you get in the US, lunches like Irish Stew,
freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled) with garlic &
breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local ingredients - I
dunno, I just want to give them a taste of Irish food which
is *different* from what they can get at home - lamb,
maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage, that sort of thing.

Many Americans have little or no exposure to lamb, and
consider it 'strong'. I have a VERY hard time finding anyone
to share with when I cook lamb.

Good beef is also something not really common here, AND it's
much more expensive than it is in Ireland, but you'll find
it's well liked.

Seafood is also a good choice, what you get is far better
than the average American has access to.

While not exactly what Americans would expect, rashers will
most likely be accepted eagerly.

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Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US?

Common enough.

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What about fish 'n chip eateries?

Every 3rd corner.

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I'd like my guests (which I think of them as, although
they won't all (16) be staying with me, I don't have a
mansion!) to have fun exploring food that they're not used
to. Any ideas from people who have experience of both
countries (Charlie?) would be appreciated.

I'd bet just the fact of being there will be 1/2 the
experience, and any good food will be fine.

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They'll mostly (as in some will stay longer, others for
shorter times)

be

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here for about a week, and I really want them to have a
good and

memorable

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time - so help please!

Jo

Forget the food, lead me to the Guinness! <VBG> kili

And don't forget to take them all to the pub(s) while
they're there! That atmosphere is missing here.

I agree with another OP - treat them to full Irish
breakfasts. All other suggestions sound great to me. Enjoy
all your guests.

Dora

Peter Aitken said:

Got room for one more? The things you mention in the first
para sound great to me! Good fish and chip places are very
rare in the US. Be prepared for people putting ketchup on
their chips. Indian -as in the country of India -
restaurants are fairly common but East Indian -the islands
- are not.

Isn't that West Indian?

Anyhow, I have to say I'd jump at a chance for a week of the
food in she describes as Irish.

modom

Peter said:

Indian -as in the country of India - restaurants are
fairly common but East Indian -the islands - are not.

"The islands" are the WEST Indies.

Bob

Darkginger said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled)
with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local
ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give them a taste
of Irish food which is *different* from what they can get
at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage,
that sort of thing.

Sounds great to me! Play them some Sally Oldfield tunes 🙂

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Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them?

Yes.

What about fish 'n chip eateries?

Not common at all. Perhaps up by the Canadian border; I
recall having fish & chips on the Canadian side of Niagara
Falls as a kid, with malt vinegar. Hard to find good beer
battered fish & chips.

Jill

Felice said:

Jo, the most memorable of my meals in Ireland were the
unbelievable breakfasts. Do treat them to one, right down
to the mushrooms and tomatoes. Heaven!

Don't forget the oatmeal and cream.

I agree that Irish breakfasts are very, very good. But the
"guests" will be around for several days, so rather than
offering every good Irish thing at the first breakfast, keep
a few things in reserve for later breakfasts.

Bob

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eateries? I'd like my

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guests (which I think of them as, although they won't all
(16) be staying with me, I don't have a mansion!) to have
fun exploring food that they're not used to. Any ideas
from people who have experience of both countries
(Charlie?) would be appreciated.

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Jo

How are fish and chips eateries these days? When I grew up
in London, they were somewhat stark - you ordered at a
counter, waited for it to be cooked, then took it home.
Classic take-out. The last time I went home, my cousins
decided I should eat fish and chips (fine with me). I was
overcome when I saw the fish and chip place - elegant
restaurant dealing just with fish and chips, with starched
white linen tablecloths, prettily folded pink napkins and
water goblets. What has the world come to. ;-(

Dora

Dora

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Quoted message said:

I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled (broiled)
with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters with local
ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give them a taste
of Irish food which is *different* from what they can get
at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef, bacon & cabbage,
that sort of thing.

It occurs to me that I don't know of any Irish-American
seafood recipes.

As for the rest: Chances are that whatever they've
encountered as Irish food in the US would be noticeably
different from genuine Irish food.

Digression: Much of what I know about genuine Irish food
comes from reading about a 1930s anthropological study in a
rural area. In that time and place, most members of farm
families got one egg for breakfast; the head of the
household got two.

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Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US?

That probably depends on where in the US. In my part
of Minneapolis, there are several within longish
walking distance.

Have most

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USians experienced them?

I wouldn't say most. But I suspect that

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What about fish 'n chip eateries?

There are several US chains devoted to fish and chips;
people who haven't encountered them near home are likely to
have run across them in airports. However, it's quite likely
that what they serve isn't like what's service in Ireland.

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Peter said:

Indian -as in the country of India - restaurants are
fairly common but East Indian -the islands - are not.

"The islands" are the WEST Indies.

Bob

What *are* you talking about? I used "the islands" to make
it clear that I used "East Indian" to refer to the East
Indies and not to the eastern part of India.

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Peter said:

Indian -as in the country of India - restaurants are
fairly common but East Indian -the islands - are not.

"The islands" are the WEST Indies.

Bob

What *are* you talking about? I used "the islands" to make
it clear that I used "East Indian" to refer to the East
Indies and not to the eastern part of India.

I'm not following you. Are you referring to Indonesia, then?
Or the Moluccans? Timor? The people who live on islands in
the Caribbean are collectively referred to as West Indian.
The expression "East Indies" isn't one I run across often
outside references to colonial-era trading companies. A
quick Google search turned up hits for WWII campaigns in
what was once called the Dutch East Indies, for example.
Googling West Indies turned up hits for Jamaica, Trinidad,
Martinique, etc.

Anyhow, you're quite right when you say that Indian food is
more common in the US than Indonesian food. If that's what
you meant.

(I need to learn more about Indonesian food. Candle
nuts, e.g.)

modom

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I'm expecting a bundle of Americans to come visiting
(Ireland) in September - from all over the country,
Alaska to New York, California to Connecticut. Does
anyone have any idea what Irish food would seem 'ethnic'
to them? I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black
and white puddings, bacon rashers which are more like
Canadian bacon than the stuff you get in the US, lunches
like Irish Stew, freshly picked mussels grilled
(broiled) with garlic & breadcrumbs, seafood platters
with local ingredients - I dunno, I just want to give
them a taste of Irish food which is *different* from
what they can get at home - lamb, maybe, grass fed beef,
bacon & cabbage, that sort of thing.

Also, how prevalent are (East) Indian restaurants in the
US? Have most USians experienced them? What about fish
'n chip eateries? I'd like my guests (which I think of
them as, although they won't all (16) be staying with
me, I don't have a mansion!) to have fun exploring food
that they're not used to. Any ideas from people who have
experience of both countries (Charlie?) would be
appreciated.

Maybe I'm asking a bit in advance, but I'm known for
being slow to get organised, so I thought I'd start
early! My own experience of US food is very limited -
TexMex and CaliMex is about it! (The rest of the time, I
cooked in the apartment).

They'll mostly (as in some will stay longer, others for
shorter times) be here for about a week, and I really
want them to have a good and memorable time - so help
please!

Jo

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kili

Peter said:

What *are* you talking about? I used "the islands" to make
it clear that I used "East Indian" to refer to the East
Indies and not to the eastern part of India.

Okay, here's the problem: The term "East Indies" is
semantically obsolete. To avoid confusion, you could have
used the modern term, "Indonesian".

At any rate, we've digressed from the discussion of Irish
food, and I don't think Jo wanted to offer Indonesian food
to her guests.

Bob

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I'm thinking of breakfasts that include black and
white puddings,

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bacon rashers which are more like Canadian bacon than the
stuff you get in the US, lunches like Irish Stew, freshly
picked mussels grilled (broiled) with garlic & breadcrumbs,
seafood platters with local ingredients -

I don't think most americans will go for black puddings if
they know what they are.

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