to secure my bike - one of the ones with a locked, unlocked and 'cinch' position for the key. Earlier today I went to unlock the bike and found that I couldn't move the key in the mechanism away from the locked position. I have a suspicion I put the cable into the cinch in the wrong direction but I'm not sure if this should make any difference. Before locking it, I then pulled it out so that there was no 'spare' protruding from the exit point of the lock and I have a feeling that the cable-end may have somehow got jammed in the mechanism.
No amount of pulling/pushing the cable in combination with shifting the key around seem to help. This is the first time it had really been used - it's been lying indoors for months so it should have no corrosion. I sprayed a little PlusGas (non-graphite based) penetrating oil but this has had no discernible effect.
I know there's not a lot to go on, but does anyone have any experiences/suggestions for freeing this?
No amount of pulling/pushing the cable in combination with shifting the key around seem to help. This is the first time it had really been used - it's been lying indoors for months so it should have no corrosion. I sprayed a little PlusGas (non-graphite based) penetrating oil but this has had no discernible effect.
I know there's not a lot to go on, but does anyone have any experiences/suggestions for freeing this?
Try spraying a lot of PlusGas? When my lock seized (I broke two of the three keys trying to get the damn thing to open) I went home and returned with the hallowed WD-40. One spray and it worked fine. Try drowning your lock in the stuff. If that doesn't work then a very try a big pair of boltcroppers?
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Hope you unlock it before someone else does.
Its not unknown for locks to have superglue squirted in them. Owner can't unlock it, leaves it while they work out what to do, scally comes back at a quiet time, cuts lock, leaves with bike
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... leaves it while they work out what to do, scally comes back ...
^^^^^^ From "r- ascal"?
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In the US, the slang used would probably be "perp".
I think it's short for scallywag.
Whatever, its a Merseyside term for someone up to no good. What its US equivalent is is not really relevant in UK.rec.cycling in just the same way we do not need to add sidewalk in brackets every time we mention pavements ;-)
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In article <[email hidden]- berlin.de>, Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote: > ... leaves it while they work out what to do, scally > comes back ... ^^^^^^ From "r- ascal"?
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In the US, the slang used would probably be "perp".
I think it's short for scallywag.
Whatever, its a Merseyside term for someone up to no good. What its US equivalent is is not really relevant in UK.rec.cycling in just the same way we do not need to add sidewalk in brackets every time we mention pavements ;-)
Actually it's probably a word that was popularised in the US long before being widely used on this side of the Atlantic.
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Try spraying a lot of PlusGas? When my lock seized (I broke two of the three keys trying to get the damn thing to open) I went home and returned with the hallowed WD-40. One spray and it worked fine. Try drowning your lock in the stuff. If that doesn't work then a very try a big pair of boltcroppers?
Yes, the nuclear option... I'd be well-annoyed to get only one use out of the b*gger but it might come to that..
I'll give the WD-40 a shot and see what happens.
BTW gents I should have pointed out: the bike is chained up at the bottom of the stairs in a secure hallway so I'm counting out foul play from my neighbours and there isn't much chance of it getting nicked - as far as the jammed mechanism is concerned I'm assuming either 'operator error' or [censored] workmanship.
Thanks for the observations anyway and any others you can think of...
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... leaves it while they work out what to do, scally comes back ...
^^^^^^ From "r- ascal"?
Or from scale-ly for snake.
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Edward Hennessey
It was from "scallywag", a maritime favorite... Still used by modern sailors.
Scally
Noun
Slang
Pronounced: skali, it rhymes with rally.
An abreviation of scallywag in the same sense. A reprobate. A disreputable fellow. A good-for-nothing. A rogue. A rascal¹.
Scally in this meaning developed in the northern dialect but is now moving into general slang use. It is however, still associated with the Lancashire-Liverpool area.
Origin: U.S. A name for undersized or ill-conditioned cattle, perhaps the original use of the word.
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Hope you unlock it before someone else does.
Its not unknown for locks to have superglue squirted in them. Owner can't unlock it, leaves it while they work out what to do, scally comes back at a quiet time, cuts lock, leaves with bike
Tony
If you see evidence of superglue, or have good reason to suspect it (like no rotational slop in the plug at all) you might try heating up the plug with a fine tipped propane torch. (you might call it a blowpipe in the UK). Sometimes, it is possible to heat up a key with a torch or even a Zippo lighter then wiggle it hard to break the superglue. (This is also an effective cure for frozen locks, though not on locks that have plastic parts!)
Personally, I think that locks that are liberally lubed with one or another of the dry film wonder lubes (I like Mobil 1 Spray Lube or Tri-Flow) resist glue vandalism much better than a dry lock.
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Its not unknown for locks to have superglue squirted in them. Owner can't unlock it, leaves it while they work out what to do, scally comes back at
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quiet time, cuts lock, leaves with bike
Apparently the increasingly powerful cordless tools, allow thieves who target bikes, to angle grind through the lock. I know from experience (no... I didn't steal the bike!) that it only takes about 15secs to cut clean through a (admittedly cheap) D-lock. I would hope that the modern ones are tougher, but it does put a good case for cable and chains as these are harder to get a purchase on*.
That's interesting. I think the more expensive ones may be better - I used to have a £30 Patriot D-lock that seized up and had to be ground down - which took a few minutes with a mains powered grinder IIRC. Lots of noise and sparks. Of course, all the vibration unjammed the lock and it worked perfectly later on. The maintainence chap said it was the first lock of any type he hadn't been able to cut through with bolt cutters, so it sounds as if your lock problem is far from uncommon, whatever the type of lock.
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*This is an opinion and should not be taken as suggestion. I am not responsible if your bike gets nicked!
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jon@restless_REMOVE_lemon.co.uk said:
tougher, but it does put a good case for cable and chains as these are harder to get a purchase on*.
For a long time my choice of bike security has been to use two different types of device. My combination is usually a D-lock and a flexible armoured cable lock. The theory is that in addition to the obvious fact that there are now twice as many locks to breach, two different types of tool are also needed. I also have reasonably secure parking at work (outdoors but with access to staff only).
On the rare occasions that my bikes are left out of sight in public I still use the above technique but will often remove the front wheel and carry it with me.
Love and lock from Rich x
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